Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Mike Henker
Hi your answers help me a lot, I just want to know exactly what you said!! how many options I have around text editors. Finally,I will use vi, perhaps like you said is the harder option but if a lot of UNIX people use it and recommand that means something... Thank you very much for all the

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Sigfred HÃ¥versen
J.C. Roberts wrote: 3.) Learn ed -If vi is not installed, ed probably is. Some ancient systems don't have vi but the odds of coming across such a system are fairly slim. The only text editor in bsd.rd is ed, so chances are that one may have to use it on occasion (shudder). /Sigfred

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Zoong PHAM
On Sunday, 7 August 2005 at 9:34:18 +0200, Sigfred Heversen wrote: The only text editor in bsd.rd is ed, so chances are that one may have to use it on occasion (shudder). And if you are in support role, sometimes you have to tell someone on the phone how to edit system config files (in

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 06:21:55PM +1000, Zoong PHAM wrote: On Sunday, 7 August 2005 at 9:34:18 +0200, Sigfred Heversen wrote: The only text editor in bsd.rd is ed, so chances are that one may have to use it on occasion (shudder). And if you are in support role, sometimes you have to

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread imEnsion
I'm surprised everyone keeps recommending using vi and vim, yet no one has given a pointer on how to learn it. Sure, an OReilly book may come in handly for this (such as the pocket version of vi tips), but the best way to learn is of course to read the man page. Aside from the man page, if you

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, imEnsion wrote: I'm surprised everyone keeps recommending using vi and vim, yet no one has given a pointer on how to learn it. Sure, an OReilly book may come in handly for this (such as the pocket version of vi tips), but the best way to learn is of course to read the man

Re: wi0 troubles

2005-08-07 Thread batou
Greg Thomas wrote : Better luck now. Things started working better when I got an off-list email suggesting to upgrade to 1.1.1/1.8.2. I tried 1.1.1/1.8.0, 1.1.1/1.8.2, and 1.1.1/1.8.4 and this was the result: Aug 6 18:47:43 grits /bsd: wi0 at pcmcia0 function 0 INTERSIL, HFA384x/IEEE,

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Moritz Grimm
Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, imEnsion wrote: I'm surprised everyone keeps recommending using vi and vim, yet no one has given a pointer on how to learn it. Sure, an OReilly book may come An Introduction to Display Editing with Vi, /usr/share/doc/usd/12.vi/. This document is the

Install Woes (3.7/sparc) - Spontaneous crashes

2005-08-07 Thread Jim Fron
I'm attempting to install OBSD 3.7 sparc on a Sparcstation 20. I've been through installs numerous times on 20's, 2's, and an IPC using previous OBSD versions. Currently, I only have one install method -- floppy. I could conceivably set up a netboot install or wrangle a CDR drive if need

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Richard P. Koett
You guys are all sissies. Real men use cat(1).

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Brian
If you install the port vim, it comes with vimtutor. You just type: $ /usr/local/bin/vimtutor And the tutor is pretty good. It helped me out. Brian Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Han Boetes
You can use mg on OpenBSD. All you have to learn to get started is that ctrl-x ctrl-c saves the file and exits. # Han

Re: cpuburn: operation not permitted

2005-08-07 Thread Matt Garman
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 06:02:42PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 04:24:41PM -0500, Matt Garman wrote: Has anyone stress-tested their CPU under OpenBSD? In particular, I'd like to run the cpuburn program: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/ However,

hlt-instruction

2005-08-07 Thread Anders Henningsson
How do I enable the hlt-thing in obsd 3.7? I installed on a k6-3 with via vt82c598 and vt82c596 chipset. It used to show in dmesg: checking hlt ok or something like that. But it does not now. Anders Anders Henningsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Tim Hammerquist
Richard P. Koett wrote: X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 You guys are all sissies. Real men use cat(1). What kind of men use Outlook? Well, at least you can still do: C:\ copy con stuff.bat @echo off del /s * nul ^Z C:\ stuff

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Gustavo Rios
On 8/6/05, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/6/05, Mike Henker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi yesterday I installed OpenBSD 3.7 seem to be all ok, my question is how I can edit the files of the operating system,what editor you recommand? (I m a newbie) If isn t in the

Re: Install Woes (3.7/sparc) - Spontaneous crashes

2005-08-07 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 11:28:55 -0400, Jim Fron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attempting to install OBSD 3.7 sparc on a Sparcstation 20. I've been through installs numerous times on 20's, 2's, and an IPC using previous OBSD versions. Currently, I only have one install method -- floppy. I could

Re: Install Woes (3.7/sparc) - Spontaneous crashes

2005-08-07 Thread Jim Fron
On Aug 7, 2005, at 2:46 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote: Floppy drives and diskettes are notorious for failing in very strange and unusual ways. Check out the mild but insightful message from Art on tech@ if you want to know the general consensus on floppies. That's good to know. Unfortunately, most

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Paul Pruett
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html Ed, man! !man ed On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Richard P. Koett wrote: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:01:40 -0700 From: Richard P. Koett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Text editor You guys are all sissies. Real men use cat(1).

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 19:34:44 + (GMT), Paul Pruett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html Ed, man! !man ed From the paged linked above: Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed: golem$ ed ? help ? ? ? quit ? exit ? bye ? hello? ? eat flaming

Re: Install Woes (3.7/sparc) - Spontaneous crashes

2005-08-07 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:18:40 -0400, Jim Fron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 7, 2005, at 2:46 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote: Floppy drives and diskettes are notorious for failing in very strange and unusual ways. Check out the mild but insightful message from Art on tech@ if you want to know the

Re: Install Woes (3.7/sparc) - Spontaneous crashes

2005-08-07 Thread Nick Holland
Jim Fron wrote: I'm attempting to install OBSD 3.7 sparc on a Sparcstation 20. I've been through installs numerous times on 20's, 2's, and an IPC using previous OBSD versions. Currently, I only have one install method -- floppy. I could conceivably set up a netboot install or

Test

2005-08-07 Thread Henry Lenzi
Test

Re: Install Woes (3.7/sparc) - Spontaneous crashes

2005-08-07 Thread Jim Fron
On Aug 7, 2005, at 4:23 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote:' At times I wonder if Apple not supporting serial is smart or dumb but I never seem to come to a conclusion... OT: I think it's dumb. But that's from the standpoint of someone who does more with computers than 95% of the population. I also

Re: cpuburn: operation not permitted

2005-08-07 Thread Frank Denis \(Jedi/Sector One\)
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 12:49:02PM -0500, Matt Garman wrote: I'd like to load the CPU as much as possible, while at the same time monitoring temperatures, so that I can make sure my computer doesn't overheat. Try running blogbench - http://blogbench.pureftpd.org/ - it brings hardware to its

Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2005-08-07 09:01:40 -0700, Richard P. Koett wrote: Real men use cat(1). And real women use magnets. :-) Best Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de

Sparc QFE repeatable crashes [was: Install Woes (3.7/sparc) - Spontaneous crashes]

2005-08-07 Thread Jim Fron
On Aug 7, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Nick Holland wrote: Your description sounds just like a memory problem, the more your install, the more memory the system uses. MAKEDEV uses a LOT of RAM. Well, I started by pulling out all the core, and swapping them in 2 at a time (2 @16Mb each). At first I

Re: login group for users should be?

2005-08-07 Thread Christopher Kruslicky
On Friday 05 August 2005 04:06 pm, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 13:21 +0200, Tim wrote: When creating a user I am wondering what is recommended when assigning a login group to the user. There are to alternatives, giving the user unique login group (same as his name) or

any luck with CBL for spamd pf Table ?

2005-08-07 Thread Paul Pruett
Tried to use CBL for spamd.conf, it was a bust. may have been sysadmin err0r/misunderstanding..:). Anyone else successfully using CBL for /usr/libexec/spamd-setup ? It appears that the CBL black list has about 1,744,279 entries The CBL list is a big part of the Spamhaus XBL list, and gets a