On 10/16/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 02:39:59PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 19:34 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I need to look something up in a catalog. The catalog doesn't come
in print. I phone the supplier, they say
On Oct 15 19:34:38, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 03:57:19PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
On Oct 15 09:16:39, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Well, at least I know that I'm not alone in needing to use flash to get
real work done (not for games or other time-wasters). Which means
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 19:34 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I need to look something up in a catalog. The catalog doesn't come
in print. I phone the supplier, they say look on the web. Its in
flash. So, I need flash to get work done.
Maybe it's time to look for an alternate supplier that
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 02:39:59PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 19:34 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I need to look something up in a catalog. The catalog doesn't come
in print. I phone the supplier, they say look on the web. Its in
flash. So, I need flash to get
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:25:46PM -0700, Karsten McMinn wrote:
On 10/11/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I absolutely LOVE the fact that OpenBSD doesn't support
flash natively. I think that's a great selling point for using it
on a desktop. Oh, but you not only like
I know what you mean, I have to use Flash 9 :S
A.
On 15/10/2007, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:25:46PM -0700, Karsten McMinn wrote:
On 10/11/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I absolutely LOVE the fact that OpenBSD doesn't support
Raimo Niskanen wrote:
Perhaps the best, but not the only. Flash i all over the net.
E.g to see the weather forecasts from the Swedish Meteorology
and Hydrology Institute (SMHI), you need Flash 8. Just a few
months ago you needed Internet Explorer as well, but they
are aware and improving...
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 05:31:51AM -0500, Robert C Wittig wrote:
Raimo Niskanen wrote:
Perhaps the best, but not the only. Flash i all over the net.
E.g to see the weather forecasts from the Swedish Meteorology
and Hydrology Institute (SMHI), you need Flash 8. Just a few
months ago you needed
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 03:57:19PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
On Oct 15 09:16:39, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Well, at least I know that I'm not alone in needing to use flash to get
real work done (not for games or other time-wasters). Which means that
for any box from which I want to get real
Never found a use for 3D acceleration myself. Seems to be mostly
for games and, well, games.
There are other uses. Like the silly 3D accelerated window managers (as
a cwm user it's obvious I see no need for that). There's also other
uses. For example last year for my final year
* Owain Ainsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-12 07:12]:
Then again I'm currently attempting to port the DRM (direct rendering
manager) to OpenBSD, so I'm not whining about it.
and that is the right attitude. sit down and send code to change what
you didn't like. instead of sending questionable
On 12/10/2007, Owain Ainsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then again I'm currently attempting to port the DRM (direct rendering
manager) to OpenBSD,
Do you accept paypal donations at your zerooa at googlemail dot com
email address? I'm broke, not rich, so I can't pay you for your work
hours, but
On 12/10/2007, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to start a discussion about extending the answer to the OpenBSD FAQ
# 1.10: Can I use OpenBSD as a Desktop System?
I have also felt before that that FAQ item could be expanded, so I
wrote an expanded answer and submitted a diff.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:36:33PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:57:18PM -0400, Kevin Stam wrote:
However, it is also worth noting that some typical desktop needs and uses
are incompatible with the focus of OpenBSD. There are currently no video
cards that provide
On 10/11/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I absolutely LOVE the fact that OpenBSD doesn't support
flash natively. I think that's a great selling point for using it
on a desktop. Oh, but you not only like flash, but demand it.
That's ok, that's your measure of desktop,
I've been evaluating OpenBSD as a desktop system while learning about it
on my lesser (older) hardware. I've learned a lot and will continue to
learn about OpenBSD but I don't think it will work as my primary
desktop.
Based on what I've learned here on Misc, I'd like to start a discussion
Aside from some typos, I'll have to dispute the inclusion of movie watching
and movie editing. Very much, actually. I've never had noticeably poorer
movie watching/viewing performance on OpenBSD as opposed to other
distributions. (Gentoo is my other, and neither work better then the other
for
Douglas A. Tutty writes:
I think the following paragraphs would enhance the FAQ to
provide the person new to the OpenBSD focus a heads up on some
of the difficulties.
You are making some weird assumptions about what the desktop
is. My desktop is nothing like the one you describe, and
OpenBSD
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:00:39PM -0400, Kevin Stam wrote:
Aside from some typos, I'll have to dispute the inclusion of movie watching
and movie editing. Very much, actually. I've never had noticeably poorer
movie watching/viewing performance on OpenBSD as opposed to other
distributions.
I use OpenBSD as a desktop everyday and I have an 'entertainment center'
that delivers music, movies and arcade games which also runs OpenBSD.
OpenBSD is very well suited to being a media center due
to the lean default install and excellent package system.
On 10/12/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I've been evaluating OpenBSD as a desktop system while learning about it
on my lesser (older) hardware. I've learned a lot and will continue to
learn about OpenBSD but I don't think it will work as my primary
desktop.
Based on what I've learned here on Misc, I'd
Intel integrated graphics card. Standard cheaper one found in laptops.
Usually watch in mplayer, default settings. Occasionally, VLC, default
settings. Of course, the intel cards don't have the same blob problems that
the more expensive ones tend to. I don't know about your experiences
comparing
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:56:38PM -0400, Kevin Stam wrote:
Or perhaps you're being quite legitimate here. I just haven't heard of that
problem before, it's always been about 3d acceleration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_video_extension
It makes a big difference.
--
Brett Lymn
Warning:
However, it is also worth noting that some typical desktop needs and uses
are incompatible with the focus of OpenBSD. There are currently no video
cards that provide the necessary specifications to create open drivers for
all hardware function, most notably 3D acceleration. While more than
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:57:18PM -0400, Kevin Stam wrote:
However, it is also worth noting that some typical desktop needs and uses
are incompatible with the focus of OpenBSD. There are currently no video
cards that provide the necessary specifications to create open drivers for
all
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:36:27PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I've been evaluating OpenBSD as a desktop system while learning about it
on my lesser (older) hardware. I've learned a lot and will continue to
learn about OpenBSD but I don't think it will work as my
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