Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremy D. Young
> Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! > To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 1:41 PM > > On May 6, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Jeremy D. Young wrote: > > >  suggest, based upon what you have written below, > that ever

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Eric Vought
On May 6, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: The Missourians for Animal Care Coalition is who is backing HJR 86. MACC consists of : Jenny, many of these groups supported NAIS! We dropped our membership in the MO Farm Bureau because they were no longer responsive to small growers o

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Eric Vought
On May 6, 2010, at 10:02 AM, CathyM wrote: Yes, I agree, I wish that the bill could be put on line and be made transparent, but then it would not get through until next session and that allows HSUS to come into our state. So the real question is: Do you want to keep HSUS out and Ah, b

RE: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread CathyM
[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Vought Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:13 AM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! On May 5, 2010, at 11:09 PM, CathyM wrote: > So, the debate about what HJR8

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Eric Vought
On May 6, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Jeremy D. Young wrote: suggest, based upon what you have written below, that everyone on this list pressure the Missouri Senate to NOT allow a vote on this legislation until its final form has been published online for 7 days. Then, when we have all had a chance t

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Jenny Thrasher
h Terriers www.pictothehighlands.com From: Eric Vought To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:03:27 AM Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! On May 4, 2010, at 6:49 AM, CathyM wrote: > Who do you th

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremy D. Young
urilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Martz > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:10 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! > > > > at th

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Eric Vought
On May 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, CathyM wrote: I have raised animals all of my life. I want the ability to raise animals either commercially or privately based on my knowledge not yours and not HSUS. This legislation lets us do this. No, it does not do anything of the kind. SHOW ME THE TEXT

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Eric Vought
On May 5, 2010, at 11:09 PM, CathyM wrote: So, the debate about what HJR86 reads like is mute at this time because we don’t have access to the current rewrite. So, you have been arguing that I should support a bill which I have not read, which you have not read, which amends the Missour

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-06 Thread Jenny Thrasher
alition@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 2:38:20 AM Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! On May 4, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: > Actually, Eric did not explain it eloquently at all- he was guessing about > this topic based on previous experience

RE: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread CathyM
PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! at this point I must ask if you guys are talking about the same freaking bill I just read, Eric you make some valid points and jenny and cathy on a dog breeders perspective there are parts I ag

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread Tom Martz
ain, and the Breadbasket of the World could very well >> become empty. I am dead serious, folks. >> >> >> Jenny Thrasher >> Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers >> www.pictothehighlands.com >> >> >> -- >> *From:*

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread D L Wells
s. > > > Jenny Thrasher > Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers > www.pictothehighlands.com > > > -- > *From:* Tom Martz > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Tue, May 4, 2010 3:06:43 PM > *Subject:* Re

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread Eric Vought
On May 4, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: Nevermind. I thought you guys were interested in protecting the rights of the little guy from the Nanny State, and all it would impose. Do you want more Government, or less? Here they are, offering you a permanent addition to the Missouri

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread Eric Vought
On May 4, 2010, at 6:49 AM, CathyM wrote: Who do you think is really backing this? Small farm businesses and that includes family farms. BTW: I should emphasize that HJR 86 contains NONE of the language actually submitted by small farming advocates I am involved with and does contain

RE: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread CathyM
5 AM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! On May 4, 2010, at 6:49 AM, CathyM wrote: > Now let's take this to the next level of animal agriculture - can > you show me > the GASP that states that chickens t

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread Eric Vought
On May 4, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: Actually, Eric did not explain it eloquently at all- he was guessing about this topic based on previous experience in other areas because most of what he said didn't apply here. HJR 86 is about protecting our rights to raise livestock in a

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread Jenny Thrasher
s.com From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 3:06:43 PM Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! Well this is why we can carry on civil discourse so everyone can be better informed of what is occuring.  There are

RE: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread CathyM
coalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:07 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! Well this is why we can carry on civil discourse so everyone can

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-05 Thread Eric Vought
On May 4, 2010, at 6:49 AM, CathyM wrote: Now let's take this to the next level of animal agriculture - can you show me the GASP that states that chickens that are raised free range in a large business will produce the same amount of eggs as those chickens kept in cages? NO But I sure can

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-04 Thread Tom Martz
us down. > > > Jenny Thrasher > Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers > www.pictothehighlands.com > > > ---------- > *From:* D L Wells > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Tue, May 4, 2010 7:02:51 AM > *Su

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-04 Thread Jenny Thrasher
ps.com Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:02:51 AM Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! I'm with Eric.  Less regulation & more protection of rights (with a side order of legal ramifications for breaking that protection) is what I'd rather see. Thanks for explainin

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-04 Thread D L Wells
I'm with Eric. Less regulation & more protection of rights (with a side order of legal ramifications for breaking that protection) is what I'd rather see. Thanks for explaining it so eloquently, Eric. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Eric Vought wrote: > > On May 3, 2010, at 8:27 PM, CathyM w

RE: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-04 Thread CathyM
Message- From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Blevins Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:53 AM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! Eric:

RE: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-04 Thread Jerry Blevins
: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!! On May 3, 2010, at 8:27 PM, CathyM wrote: > We need all concerned Missouri residents to contact their state > senators ASAP in support of HJR86. If you don't know who your state >

Re: [MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-04 Thread Eric Vought
On May 3, 2010, at 8:27 PM, CathyM wrote: We need all concerned Missouri residents to contact their state senators ASAP in support of HJR86. If you don’t know who your state senator is, go to:http://www.senate.mo.gov/LLookup/Leg_Lookup.aspx If you don’t live in Missouri but know someone t

[MoLiCo] Missouri - Alert! Immediate Action Needed!!

2010-05-03 Thread CathyM
We need all concerned Missouri residents to contact their state senators ASAP in support of HJR86. If you don't know who your state senator is, go to: http://www.senate.mo.gov/LLookup/Leg_Lookup.aspx If you don't live in Missouri but know someone that does, please pass this on to them whether