[WikimediaMobile] Increasing mobile beta audience

2015-01-27 Thread Jon Robson
One of the frustrations I have heard so far is that the audience there is too small to get meaningful data around various experiments. Currently people have to opt in by going to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileOptions which is hidden away in the mobile interface. They can do this

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Visual Editor / Mobile

2015-01-27 Thread Ed Sanders
That pretty much sums it up Jon, thanks for that. My vision is that ideally VE standalone would work in mobile on it's own, and so the MW integration would be as light as possible: connecting up the load/save APIs and placing the VE instance in the right place. Converting MF to OOUI widgets is

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Visual Editor / Mobile

2015-01-27 Thread Jon Robson
This will be a part time activity that will happen on the side managed via phabricator bugs. I do not anticipate this being a drastic amount of work, especially given the prior cleanup we have done in the MobileFrontend extension. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Maryana Pinchuk

Re: [WikimediaMobile] tmi (too many images)

2015-01-27 Thread Jon Robson
I have setup https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87664 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Moving to mobile-l. The main page changes a lot so it is not the best example. Today for example our image weight is 15.36 kB I'm a little confused what

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Increasing mobile beta audience

2015-01-27 Thread Sam Smith
Have we thought about automatically opting people into beta mode e.g. a sample of our users in a certain geographic region / certain zero enabled area/ all users in a certain bucket based on their user id ? I like this idea. In fact, I'm for it, provided that we make it clear to the user

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Increasing mobile beta audience

2015-01-27 Thread Maryana Pinchuk
Yeah, I think there are a lot of problems with the opt-in beta model. I much prefer releasing new features to a small % of users, logging events/usage, and if we suspect something has the potential to be disruptive/offputting, letting them know the feature they're seeing is beta and letting them

Re: [WikimediaMobile] tmi (too many images)

2015-01-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Is this https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68819 again? As an example, I prefer http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140527_0F_HE3/4/details/ JPG rarely get unwiedly, but it's very easy to reach multiple megabytes with a handful PNG and GIF files. On [[w:en:Barack Obama]], the biggest image (25

Re: [WikimediaMobile] tmi (too many images)

2015-01-27 Thread Bahodir Mansurov
On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: We previously explored this but it didn't get enough support and I think it is worth revisiting now the MobileFrontend code is in a stronger place. I was not part of the previous conversation, but I guess one of the

[WikimediaMobile] Visual Editor / Mobile

2015-01-27 Thread Jon Robson
Ed Sanders, Trevor and I had an in real life conversation, last Friday, where we spoke about the VisualEditor tablet (and future mobile) offering. We've had a bunch of issues with it so far breaking and a lot of this is due to two conflicting technologies. We're keen to bring VE code and mobile