Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread S Page
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, S Page wrote: > on the desktop Hovercards might be a better place to show more information > about activity on a talk page/Flow board. > I filed *Bug 65692* -Hovercards should show useful info for talk page.

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Danny Horn
For the Flow team, I'm definitely interested in talking more about it. I can't comment on the current state of the code, but surfacing active, relevant conversations to users is going to be a focus once we've got the feature built to a good standard. I think discussions are especially good to show

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread S Page
(Cc'ing Flow list) On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Jon Robson wrote: > In the alpha mode of mobile we show a number inside the talk icon that > shows how many open talk topics there are on a page. > What do you mean by "open"? Also I wonder if this is something Flow is thinking about. > Sure.

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Jared Zimmerman
getting a conversation count via flow's API will be much easier, but a conversion of all talk pages to flow is still some time off, it would be good to have a working way to do this on non-flow enabled talk pages as well. *Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Max Semenik
I have a storng conviction that if a feature had been bitrotting in alpha for a year without anyone even remebering about it yet alone caring about promoting it - it should be put to death. It resurfaced for me yesterday when I discovered that it's taking about a half of page_props table on enwiki

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Jared Zimmerman
Displaying the discussion count in a design were investigating with winter as well. Sent while mobile > On May 23, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Jon Robson wrote: > > Then people would avoid starting a talk page when the number is 0. This is, > in my view, a bad thing. This is a valid assumption and on

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Jon Robson
> Then people would avoid starting a talk page when the number is 0. This is, > in my view, a bad thing. This is a valid assumption and one we could test. A zero might even prompt new discussions. We'll never know unless we explore it. I'm just curious if there are any plans to test this and other

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Jon Robson
Currently talk is only available via the beta mode of the site: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileOptions We've been focusing on VisualEditor stuff. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Jon Robson, 23/05/2014 15:54: > >> (Note evidence from many user tests t

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Jon Robson
(and the talk count is only available in alpha mode) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileOptions?mobileaction=beta Sorry if this was not clear. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > Currently talk is only available via the beta mode of the site: > https://en.m.wikipedia.

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 23/05/2014 15:54: (Note evidence from many user tests that have been run in the past 2 years give me the impression that many non-editors are not aware there is a discussion side to Wikipedia) I've tried https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/Talk and then the "Return to ..

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Jon Robson
"Unless you find a use-case which you're addressing, don't code this please." We coding this over a year ago on this basis but nothing has been done with it. My question that I am wondering if we should explore the answer to is: "Does showing the number of talk topics on an article increase engage