RE: [RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote: > I have been thinking about a reorganization of the Apache/Perl modules for > a while, and have come to the conclusion that it would probably be a good > idea. Please tell me what you think about this proposal. > > Per Einar, I have cut most your em

Re: CGI::Application

2002-06-16 Thread Tom Mornini
On Sunday, June 16, 2002, at 07:02 AM, Eric Frazier wrote: > The big points I want to achieve right now, is to make everything I > write > OOP, separate HTML from code as much as possible, and to not make it > impossible to deal with for the people I work with who don't know as > much > perl

Re: CGI::Application

2002-06-16 Thread mike808
Dodger opined on the : > Grr. Why can't people just write bloody applications with HTML in them > instead of spending so much energy tryuing to find a way to avoid writing > any HTML? Because I don't want to have to go find a!@#$*^$ Perl programmer every time the marketing department or a custom

Re: CGI::Application

2002-06-16 Thread Eric Frazier
Hi, I think mostly it is about having standards and in a business env making it so that people who only know part of the picture can still work on the project as a whole. Sounds like OOP huh? HTML in perl scripts just messes that whole thing up, like I said before, our fearless leader can mess up

Re: CGI::Application

2002-06-16 Thread Eric Frazier
At 01:06 PM 6/16/02 -0400, Sam Tregar wrote: >On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Eric Frazier wrote: > >> I have been looking into HTML::Template which is a lot simper than Embed >> perl or the template tool kit. I am wondering if anyone has experence with >> using both of these with Registry.pm > >I do! Back

Re: CGI::Application

2002-06-16 Thread Dodger
Grr. Why can't people just write bloody applications with HTML in them instead of spending so much energy tryuing to find a way to avoid writing any HTML? I mean, it's not that hard. Formulate what you want parts to do, make a sort of vanilla, unformatted output here-doc ior template file for e

Re: CGI::Application

2002-06-16 Thread Sam Tregar
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Eric Frazier wrote: > I have been looking into HTML::Template which is a lot simper than Embed > perl or the template tool kit. I am wondering if anyone has experence with > using both of these with Registry.pm I do! Back when I worked for Jesse Erlbaum (the author of CGI::

CGI::Application

2002-06-16 Thread Eric Frazier
Hi, I am still working on building a framework, design plan for this busy site I am working on. It is a total revamp so I have the chance to do things "right" I have been looking into HTML::Template which is a lot simper than Embed perl or the template tool kit. I am wondering if anyone has expe

Re: [RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 18:01 16.06.2002, Perrin Harkins wrote: > > >Also, a module map might be a good thing to create, i.e. an improved > > >version of this: http://perl.apache.org/src/apache-modlist.html. > > > > Well, because the module list has now moved into the Perl Module List > > entirely, we are removing it

Re: [RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Perrin Harkins
> >Also, a module map might be a good thing to create, i.e. an improved > >version of this: http://perl.apache.org/src/apache-modlist.html. > > Well, because the module list has now moved into the Perl Module List > entirely, we are removing it with the new site. What I meant was that since you c

Re: [RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 17:01 16.06.2002, Perrin Harkins wrote: > > I have been thinking about a reorganization of the Apache/Perl modules >for > > a while, and have come to the conclusion that it would probably be a >good > > idea. Please tell me what you think about this proposal. > >Sounds fine to me. I would sugg

Re: [RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Perrin Harkins
> I have been thinking about a reorganization of the Apache/Perl modules for > a while, and have come to the conclusion that it would probably be a good > idea. Please tell me what you think about this proposal. Sounds fine to me. I would suggest creating a brief document with naming guidelines

Re: [OT] WebObjects - [OT] GUI tools

2002-06-16 Thread Perrin Harkins
> There is still one GUI tool I would definitely love to have: An HTML > WYSIWYG editor that lets me edit templates while they are filled with > example data You can do this right now with HTML_Tree or HTML::Seamstress. Since Dreamweaver has an extension mechanism, you can probably add support t

Re: modperl Digest 15 Jun 2002 20:05:58 -0000 Issue 797

2002-06-16 Thread Eric DOUTRELEAU
Hi First thanks for your answer.

RE: [RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 14:05 16.06.2002, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote: >However, the major problem, as I see it is, is simply that people already >KNOW modules by a specific name and changing them is probably going to lead >to confusion and possibly even some bitterness. If I'm setting up a new >server I'm going to be m

RE: [RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin
I have been thinking about a reorganization of the Apache/Perl modules for a while, and have come to the conclusion that it would probably be a good idea. Please tell me what you think about this proposal. Per Einar, I have cut most your email only for convenience... I agree with you. It would

[RFC] Change our habits in module naming?

2002-06-16 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
Hello, I have been thinking about a reorganization of the Apache/Perl modules for a while, and have come to the conclusion that it would probably be a good idea. Please tell me what you think about this proposal. What is the situation now? Currently, all mod_perl modules are, as you know, gro

Re: [OT] WebObjects - [OT] GUI tools

2002-06-16 Thread Joachim Zobel
At 19:26 15.06.2002 -0400, you wrote: > > I think the most perfect web > > development env would be a WO-style framework build on top of mod_perl > >You can assemble various parts of it from CPAN. Most of the perl O/R >frameworks are not as ambitious as EOF, but Tangram is trying pretty >hard. T