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2009-01-19 Thread Michael Ludwig
Try: modperl-unsubscr...@perl.apache.org Maybe it would help to have this bit of information, obvious as it should be, appended to each message, as is the case with many other mailing lists. (While even that may be ignored in certain cases, it certainly wouldn't be in all cases.) At the moment,

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2009-01-19 Thread Issac Goldstand
It is already included. Check your headers. list-help: mailto:modperl-h...@perl.apache.org list-unsubscribe: mailto:modperl-unsubscr...@perl.apache.org List-Post: mailto:modperl@perl.apache.org Michael Ludwig wrote: Try: modperl-unsubscr...@perl.apache.org Maybe it would help to have this

Re: Initializing Sleepycat::DbXml (Berkeley, Oracle) objects in startup.pl

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Ludwig
I've referenced this thread on the Oracle Berkeley DB forum. Chances are it'll catch the attention of one of the BDB experts. If you're interested, please see: http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=848390 Michael Ludwig

Re: [OT] Re: unsubscribe

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Ludwig
Issac Goldstand schrieb: It is already included. Check your headers. list-help: mailto:modperl-h...@perl.apache.org list-unsubscribe: mailto:modperl-unsubscr...@perl.apache.org List-Post: mailto:modperl@perl.apache.org I know. Michael Ludwig wrote: At the moment, the unsubscribe address

Re: Initializing Sleepycat::DbXml (Berkeley, Oracle) objects in startup.pl

2009-01-19 Thread Torsten Foertsch
On Sun 18 Jan 2009, Michael Ludwig wrote:  From perldoc perlthrtut: In this model each thread runs in its own Perl interpreter, and any data sharing between threads must be explicit. This does not sound to me as if there is a significant advantage over spawning child processes, at least not on

Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Ludwig
What does a mod_perl 2.0 installation on Linux consist of? * Apache 2.0 or 2.2 * mod_perl 2.0 * libapreq (optional, true, but indispensable for convenience) The Apache, let's say the worker MPM, is going to be installed under /usr/local/apache22w. If I now want to install a prefork MPM next to

Re: Initializing Sleepycat::DbXml (Berkeley, Oracle) objects in startup.pl

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Ludwig
macke...@animalhead.com schrieb: Yes it is now Abend again. Timewise this is like relationships I have had with Philips (now NXP) European colleagues... And a new morning again, and it goes round and round ... On Jan 18, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Michael Ludwig wrote: macke...@animalhead.com

Re: Initializing Sleepycat::DbXml (Berkeley, Oracle) objects in startup.pl

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Ludwig
Torsten Foertsch schrieb: On Sun 18 Jan 2009, Michael Ludwig wrote: Hmm. Not sure what to make of this threaded Perl. In fact, it is worse than fork()ing off unix processes because the interpreter data is completely copied while a new interpreter is created. On the other hand a forked

Re: Initializing Sleepycat::DbXml (Berkeley, Oracle) objects in startup.pl

2009-01-19 Thread Torsten Foertsch
On Mon 19 Jan 2009, Michael Ludwig wrote: In fact, it is worse than fork()ing off unix processes because the interpreter data is completely copied while a new interpreter is created. On the other hand a forked process copies only those pages that are written to. Thanks. If I'm

Re: Initializing Sleepycat::DbXml (Berkeley, Oracle) objects in startup.pl

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Ludwig
Torsten Foertsch schrieb: Of course it depends on your setup. If you configure only a small number of interpreters then the overall memory footprint can be lower then with prefork where each process runs its own interpreter. But the effect of the copied interpreters outweighs this very soon. I

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Michael Ludwig wrote: The mod_perl DSO itself is installed to $ServerRoot/modules. Doing an ldd on the module doesn't reveal any dependencies on libraries under $ServerRoot/lib, but I guess that nevertheless, this mod_perl does very well depend on the particular Apache version it is configured

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Michael Ludwig m...@as-guides.com wrote: Now, what happens if I am going to install a new Apache 2.2/prefork with mod_perl in addition to the already existing Apache 2.2/worker with mod_perl? Hmm, isn't the MPM just a runtime configuration? Why would you need

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Adam Prime
Perrin Harkins wrote: Hmm, isn't the MPM just a runtime configuration? Why would you need another httpd install? It sounds like a separate config file would do it, if that's all you want to change. MPM is a build time configuration via the --with-mpm= to ./configure Adam

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Adam Prime adam.pr...@utoronto.ca wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: Hmm, isn't the MPM just a runtime configuration? Why would you need another httpd install? It sounds like a separate config file would do it, if that's all you want to change. MPM is a build

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Adam Prime
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Adam Prime adam.pr...@utoronto.ca wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: Hmm, isn't the MPM just a runtime configuration? Why would you need another httpd install? It sounds like a separate config file would do it, if that's all you want to

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Tech list
Why not just run multiple httpds? I do it, but I have multiple IPs and that may be a requirement for running different httpds. On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Adam Prime wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Adam Prime adam.pr...@utoronto.ca wrote: Perrin Harkins

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Torsten Foertsch
On Mon 19 Jan 2009, Adam Prime wrote: I thought you could build more than one and load the one you want at runtime.  Isn't that what Red Hat does? If redhat's shipping more than one mpm, they've patched httpd. Probably not httpd. At least Suse has not. Instead they configure and build a

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Torsten Foertsch wrote: On Mon 19 Jan 2009, Adam Prime wrote: I thought you could build more than one and load the one you want at runtime. Isn't that what Red Hat does? If redhat's shipping more than one mpm, they've patched httpd. Probably not httpd. At least Suse has not. Instead they

Re: Multiple mod_perl 2.0 installations on one Linux machine

2009-01-19 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Built with a threaded MPM and any module should also work on prefork etc. But not visa-versa!!! 100% correct, the linkage is wrong the other way. -- Philip M. Gollucci (pgollu...@p6m7g8.com)