Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-29 Thread David Nicol
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:30:28 +0200, Issac Goldstand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the "use module version" pragma only goes one way: up. > > Issac it's possible to trap the requested version number in your module and provide the interface given by earlier versions when that is requested, but i

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Andreas J Koenig
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:54:27 -0500, Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Cure wrote: >> Everybody needs to "STEP BACK" and realize how much work and soul >> Stas has put into mod_perl. >> He deserves A LOT OF CREDIT. Keep up the Good work Stas. Actually, I love Stas. And I'm sure he

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Cure
I might have misunderstood , Sorry. I just love mod_perl so much :) Paul Andreas J Koenig wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:54:27 -0500, Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Cure wrote: >>

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Issac Goldstand
- Original Message - From: "Randal L. Schwartz" To: "Issac Goldstand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; "Andreas J Koenig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mod_perl Mailing List" ; "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, Dec

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Issac" == Issac Goldstand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Issac> Which is exactly the point that I was trying to make: This *should* be Issac> doable. The fact that it's *not* means that Perl is a monolithic Issac> library and can't have 2 sets of "extensions" in the same site Issac> installat

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Issac Goldstand
- Original Message - From: "Randal L. Schwartz" To: "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; "Andreas J Koenig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mod_perl Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:43 PM Subject: Re: About putting the blam

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Stas" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stas> Unfortunately thanks to Randal, people are now totally confused. No, I think thanks to me, people are now aware of a problem of fundamental incompatibility between the "single @INC" historical legacy of the entire Perl world and toolch

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Stas Bekman
Issac Goldstand wrote: [...] After all, users must set up seperate Apache distributions for mp 1 and 2. When you think about it, it's really a 2 way relationship: you're "importing the Apache API into Perl", as much as you're "embedding the Perl interpreter into Apache". Just like you can't u

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Issac Goldstand
ultiple versions of modules. Anyway, the fact is that this *does* seem to be a pretty heated flame war, so I'll shut up now before I get myself into more trouble than I already have. Issac - Original Message ----- From: "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andreas

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Stas Bekman
Cure wrote: Everybody needs to "STEP BACK" and realize how much work and soul Stas has put into mod_perl. He deserves A LOT OF CREDIT. Keep up the Good work Stas. Thanks Cure, for the kind words... but we are talking about a different kind of credit here. Andreas has put just as much work and soul

About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Andreas J Koenig
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:09:07 -0500, Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Will it not also affect us who build mod_perl applications and want >> an easy-to-use installer to just work for people who download our >> software? Frankly, I don't think that it should be fine for just the >>

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Cure
it's a hope. If enough people believe in that may be things will change. Things shouldn't be cast in stone and they should evolve as the world evolve. I truly don't understand why you refuse to believe that CPAN/PAUSE needs to grow. Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders I

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

2004-12-28 Thread Stas Bekman
ate the growing community needs? Why is that untruth? It's not a danger that people will believe me, it's a hope. If enough people believe in that may be things will change. Things shouldn't be cast in stone and they should evolve as the world evolve. I truly don't understa