Re: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-29 Thread Issac Goldstand
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Issac Goldstand wrote: >> -0.5 >> >> I would actually like to see builds prepared against MSVCRT80, which is >> available in the Vista SDK's bundled free compiler, rather than having >> users need to download the SDK + VS Express Edition + configure the one >> to find

Re: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Issac Goldstand wrote: -0.5 I would actually like to see builds prepared against MSVCRT80, which is available in the Vista SDK's bundled free compiler, rather than having users need to download the SDK + VS Express Edition + configure the one to find and work with the other (a royal pain). As l

Re: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-29 Thread Issac Goldstand
-0.5 I would actually like to see builds prepared against MSVCRT80, which is available in the Vista SDK's bundled free compiler, rather than having users need to download the SDK + VS Express Edition + configure the one to find and work with the other (a royal pain). As long as the latest SDKs ar

RE: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Randy Kobes wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Jan Dubois wrote: > > Therefore I'm genuinely interested to learn where the problems are > > if you build say Apache with VS2008, Perl with VC6 and e.g. mod_perl > > with VC7. I would expect this to work just fine if we ignore the > >

Re: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jan Dubois wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: The obvious question is; what are your include libraries for that module? The modern compiler's? (e.g. studio 200X?) The SDK's? Or continue to build with VC 6? That Platform SDK headers (in case the module uses APIs that were i

RE: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-28 Thread Randy Kobes
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Jan Dubois wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [ ... ] My instinct, with 2008 adding the new SDK features for apr such as multicast group filtering, and the continued availability of a 2008 'express'/'lite' free version, is to take httpd 2.4 (3.0?) bina

RE: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Jan Dubois wrote: >> I still haven't seen a compelling argument why someone wants to move >> away from using MSVCRT.dll (and then continue switching CRTs then >> every other year). > > The obvious question is; what are your include libraries for th

Re: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jan Dubois wrote: The initial switch away from MSVCRT.dll was due to a conflict inside Microsoft between the Windows and the VC++ teams: MSVCRT.dll has become so important to the operation of Windows itself that the compiler team was no longer allowed to update it; ownership had been transferred

RE: Visual Studio 2008 and ActiveState Perl 5.10 updates

2007-12-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Studio 2008, true to form, proves that MS is incapable of keeping > around a stdc library any longer than one product cycle. Yes, our long > awaited (not) MSVCR90 is here. You can expect a new runtime library version for each compiler release from