Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Martin Moss
I just had a demo of the Zend Platform and framework for php. It's got some really nice stuff, but ultimately the reason we may decide to ditch perl and move to php (h I know booo) will be down to support. OR lackthereof for Perl... So my question is, given I'm not a php fan, Is there an equiv

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Jeremy Wall
On Thursday 08 March 2007 09:38, Martin Moss wrote: > I just had a demo of the Zend Platform and framework > for php. > It's got some really nice stuff, but ultimately the > reason we may decide to ditch perl and move to php > (h I know booo) will be down to support. OR > lackthereof for Perl..

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Martin Moss wrote: I just had a demo of the Zend Platform and framework for php. It's got some really nice stuff, but ultimately the reason we may decide to ditch perl and move to php (h I know booo) will be down to support. OR lackthereof for Perl... So my que

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Kurt Hansen
Martin Moss wrote: I just had a demo of the Zend Platform and framework for php. It's got some really nice stuff, but ultimately the reason we may decide to ditch perl and move to php (h I know booo) will be down to support. OR lackthereof for Perl... So my question is, given I'm not a php

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Perrin Harkins
On 3/8/07, Martin Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there an equivalent PERL based commercial entity who will provide support for a medium sized web outfit? There are places to buy Perl support. In addition to ActiveState, Stonehenge Consulting spring to mind. - Perrin

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Chris Shiflett
Jonathan Vanasco wrote: > A lot of the issues that Zend address in their products are > fixing up the general release of PHP which is filled with > security issues and configuration problems. Care to back that up? > Zend makes their money by releasing a better version of PHP > that is less buggy

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread David Scott
Chris Shiflett wrote: Zend makes their money by releasing a better version of PHP that is less buggy and has less security issues. That's why Yahoo, Wikipedia, Flickr, Digg, and others don't use Zend products. They like the buggy and insecure PHP. Or, maybe you don't know what you're talking

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Chris Shiflett wrote: That's why Yahoo, Wikipedia, Flickr, Digg, and others don't use Zend products. They like the buggy and insecure PHP. Or, maybe you don't know what you're talking about. I can't decide. aren't yahoo and flickr still using the zend encoder

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-08 Thread Robert Landrum
Martin Moss wrote: I just had a demo of the Zend Platform and framework for php. It's got some really nice stuff, but ultimately the reason we may decide to ditch perl and move to php (h I know booo) will be down to support. OR lackthereof for Perl... I've been writing perl for 10 years no

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-09 Thread Martin Moss
Many thanks to you all for your posts, Much food for thought... ultimately the decision is out of my hands, which is why I'm looking for useful perl based alternatives to propose to the powers that be. To be fair to Zend... you should checkout their products, as it's not just about the support, bu

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-09 Thread Geoffrey Young
> To be fair to Zend... you should checkout their > products, as it's not just about the support, but the > fact that they have a whole integrated developer > studio and deployment mechanism... And many other > whistles and Bells... I'm sure that's true. if that's appealing to you and you'd like

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-09 Thread Robert Landrum
Martin Moss wrote: Many thanks to you all for your posts, Much food for thought... ultimately the decision is out of my hands, which is why I'm looking for useful perl based alternatives to propose to the powers that be. My favorite perl based alternative is HTML::Mason. Simple, fast, and goo

Re: Zend PHP

2007-03-09 Thread Greg Cope
On 08/03/07, Robert Landrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As far as coding is concerned, CPAN has proved to be the most valuable resource. In writing in other languages, I often find myself having to search hi-and-low for source, libraries, or documentation on how to do common, trivial things... T

Re: supported modperl? [was Zend PHP]

2007-03-08 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
If you are looking for a commercially supported modperl distribution for 1.3/2.0/2.2, and you happen to fall into one of Windows Server, Linux x86, Solaris x86 or sparc, hpux parisc2 or aix ppc/power you might want to investigate http://www.covalent.net/solutions/ers/index.html [Disclaimer: I'm the