Re: [MP2 - BUG ?] Issue handing Apache config. error messages

2003-07-15 Thread Stas Bekman
Issac Goldstand wrote:
Right.  Could you possibly clarify the difference between  SetHandler
perl-script and SetHandler modperl?  I'm still not sure I've got the
straight of it yet...
You must be kidding ;) Have you read the sections at the URL posted below?

Stas Bekman wrote:

Sreeji K Das wrote:
[...]
You need to use 'SetHandler perl-script' for that, see:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/config/config.html#C_SetHandler_


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Re: [MP2 - BUG ?] Issue handing Apache config. error messages

2003-07-15 Thread Issac Goldstand

- Original Message -
From: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Issac Goldstand [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Issac Goldstand wrote:
  Looking at it now, I tend to agree...  I just have a vague recollection
of
  my first mod_perl 2 handler (Written only 2 weeks ago, though I dabbled
with
  the C API 9 months ago, already) and reading it and playing with
httpd.conf
  and overall being very confused.

 I've just committed the examples, hopefully they will appear online soon.

  I'd consider having 2 guides written - a porting guide - yours is nice,
but
  more as reference than as tutorial - and the second for newbies
(Starting
  with mor_perl 2)...  I'm toying with the idea of starting the porting
  tutorial, but I want to make sure it's written well for clueless people
  (which I probably still at least half count as :-)) and with accurate
  content.

 porting or starting? We already have a porting guide:
 http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/porting/porting.html

 a porting reference:
 http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/porting/compat.html


Right - I read it, and it's reference.  It's not a good guide.  A guide
should start with the basics.  The mp_1 guide is one of the most beautiful
pieces of electronic documentation in existance!  It should be a book (I
know: practical mod_perl)  Seriously though - the guide is what personally
turned me on to mod_perl, but the above two documents make me shiver and
stay the hell away from mp_2.  What's needed is a good friendly piece of
documentation to get people moving... to mp_2

 and even getting started:
 http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/intro/start_fast.html

Will look at it shortly - Let's not bite off more than we can chew in one
mouthful.

 I'd suggest to improve these docs where approapriate and start a new doc
only
 if it really doesn't fit into the existing docs.

I'm just not sure if it *does* fit...

  Issac




Re: [MP2 - BUG ?] Issue handing Apache config. error messages

2003-07-15 Thread Stas Bekman
Issac Goldstand wrote:
[...]
(Starting

with mor_perl 2)...  I'm toying with the idea of starting the porting
tutorial, but I want to make sure it's written well for clueless people
(which I probably still at least half count as :-)) and with accurate
content.
porting or starting? We already have a porting guide:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/porting/porting.html
a porting reference:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/porting/compat.html


Right - I read it, and it's reference.  It's not a good guide.  A guide
should start with the basics.  The mp_1 guide is one of the most beautiful
pieces of electronic documentation in existance!  It should be a book (I
know: practical mod_perl)  Seriously though - the guide is what personally
turned me on to mod_perl, but the above two documents make me shiver and
stay the hell away from mp_2.  What's needed is a good friendly piece of
documentation to get people moving... to mp_2
Certainly. Just remember that the guide is 4 years old. The 2.0 docs are a few 
 months old. So all we need is to make it better.

and even getting started:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/intro/start_fast.html


Will look at it shortly - Let's not bite off more than we can chew in one
mouthful.

I'd suggest to improve these docs where approapriate and start a new doc
only

if it really doesn't fit into the existing docs.


I'm just not sure if it *does* fit...
Let's see what you come up with and we can decides whether it fits or not. The 
idea is to avoid forks and have people collaborate on the single best source 
of documentation, rather than private projects. Private projects could be 
good, but given the complexity of mod_perl, having a good single source of 
documentation is a great boon for its acceptance.



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Re: [MP2 - BUG ?] Issue handing Apache config. error messages

2003-07-14 Thread Issac Goldstand
Right.  Could you possibly clarify the difference between  SetHandler
perl-script and SetHandler modperl?  I'm still not sure I've got the
straight of it yet...

  Issac

Stas Bekman wrote:
 Sreeji K Das wrote:
 [...]
 You need to use 'SetHandler perl-script' for that, see:
 http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/config/config.html#C_SetHandler_