Re: Security Scenario (understanding problem)

2002-03-09 Thread Rich Salz
If the client asks the server for a secure connection, the server starts its handshake by sending a suggestion of a private-private-key encryption (encrypted with its private-key). Right so far? No. Totally wrong. Suggest you read more about the protocol details. A key (sic) point is

Re: Advisory 012002: PHP remote vulnerabilities (fwd)

2002-02-28 Thread Rich Salz
Ya know, lots of people run PHP with Apache -- post the vulnerability there. Lots of people run PHP on Solaris -- post the vulnerability there. Lots of poeple run PHP on Linux -- post hte vulnerability there. Some people probably run PHP on Windows machines -- post it to MSDN chat rooms. Please,

Re: Multiple CRLs with same CA

2001-12-13 Thread Rich Salz
Valicert has listed Entrust as one of its partners. I would assume that would mean that Valicert can interoperate with Entrust issued certificates. I think it is stretching things to say that partnership implies full parsing of the various Entrust CRL's. How many partnerships do you know

Re: Multiple CRLs with same CA

2001-12-13 Thread Rich Salz
i'd ask a valicert person, actually. -- Zolera Systems, Your Key to Online Integrity Securing Web services: XML, SOAP, Dig-sig, Encryption http://www.zolera.com __ Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl)

Re: Multiple CRLs with same CA

2001-12-12 Thread Rich Salz
No, openssl does not yet support the (infinite:) ways to split CRL's that Entrust likes. OCSP is simpler. :) /r$ -- Zolera Systems, Securing web services (XML, SOAP, Signatures, Encryption) http://www.zolera.com __

Re: Multiple CRLs with same CA

2001-12-12 Thread Rich Salz
Does Valicert support the various Entrust CRL extensions and partitioning? If not, then they're useless for this problem. /r$ -- Zolera Systems, Your Key to Online Integrity Securing Web services: XML, SOAP, Dig-sig, Encryption http://www.zolera.com

Re: Apache SSL Private Keys

2001-11-30 Thread Rich Salz
But if an adversary gets root without rebooting your machine Right, but I wasn't talking about that. I believe the case I described is a common situation, and worth defense. /r$ -- Zolera Systems, Securing web services (XML, SOAP, Signatures, Encryption) http://www.zolera.com

Re: Apache SSL Private Keys

2001-11-30 Thread Rich Salz
Of course, you forget to mention the most common cause of server reboots running UNIX based systems. Power failures. Unh, no, that's why I talked about bribing operators and mysterious reboots. Obviously, these are occasions when a server goes down, which is why it is preferable to have it

Re: Apache SSL Private Keys

2001-11-30 Thread Rich Salz
Therefore, the passphrase only protects the key if it is removed from your server, but as has been shown, being able to remove the key requires (or should require) root privileges. QED. No, the passphrase protects the key during the time when root may have access to the machine *any time your

Re: Can't run apache + modssl on Solaris 8

2001-11-30 Thread Rich Salz
PRNG programmable random number generator - it needs a good source of random data to get started. Check out: *Psuedo* random number generator. The idea is that if you know the starting point, the sequence is predictable. That is why it is so important to mix in some REAL random data -- so an

Re: Apache SSL Private Keys

2001-11-29 Thread Rich Salz
The difference is that with a passphrase the rooter must be an active attacker with an active compromise on your machine, as opposed to a non-pass phrase which can be a passive attacker trying to snarf a single file. More than just warm fuzzy; the first is just downright harder. /r$ --

Re: Apache SSL Private Keys

2001-11-29 Thread Rich Salz
nCipher is one of many hardware crypto makers -- was there a particular reason why you picked them out? I know they can spool keys out to disk (under 3DES protection I believe), but most h/w crypto accelerators have similar provisions. BTW, perhaps you can convince management that your email

Re: Apache SSL Private Keys

2001-11-29 Thread Rich Salz
Adding passphrases to the keys or storing them in a encrypted partition doesn't really get you any additional level of security. Perhaps in the specific case that started this thread, but in the general case, this is wrong. Let's consider a common co-location scenario. Or where the MIS/IT

Re: DEAPI (revisited)

2001-10-10 Thread Rich Salz
If you still get the warning than some old modules somewhere need to be rebuilt. -- Zolera Systems, Your Key to Online Integrity Securing Web services: XML, SOAP, Dig-sig, Encryption http://www.zolera.com __ Apache Interface to

Re: DEAPI (revisited)

2001-10-09 Thread Rich Salz
Apache 1.x modules work by registering a table of function pointers, and the apache core calls out at various points in processing. In order to make SSL work, Ralph added some more callbacks. They are added to the *end* of the current table. This extendaed API, EAPI, is enabled by adding -DEAPI

Re: SSLSessionCacheTimeout

2001-09-07 Thread Rich Salz
The timeout on a session is also a concept subject to much misunderstanding. I've always though TTL, TimeToLive, was a better name. /r$ -- Zolera Systems, Securing web services (XML, SOAP, Signatures, Encryption) http://www.zolera.com

Re: List configuration (posting from a different email)

2001-05-18 Thread Rich Salz
Posts to the list from email address different from the one I'm subscribed to are silently dropped It is a deliberate anti-spam feature. __ Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) www.modssl.org User Support

Re: modssl freezes on startup

2001-05-16 Thread Rich Salz
Sorry, no time to respond in detail for a day or two, this'll have to do. If you have your system misconfigured so that security credentials are unavailable, that is a security issue, not a configuration issue. A principal tenant of security is: if something's broke, stop. NEVER silently

Re: HEAD / HTTP/1.0 - To sign or not to sign?

2001-05-11 Thread Rich Salz
This has gotten way off topic of how to use mod_ssl. I suggest interested parties look for Dan Geer's risk management is where the money's at paper. Google should find it trivially. Many consider it to be the definitive word on this trade-off issue. /r$

add_all_algorithms

2001-04-25 Thread Rich Salz
we need to call openssl_add_all_algorithms so that we can decrypt the server key (our own use of standard encryption). What's the cleanest way to add that it -- a vendor hook? __ Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl)

Re: remote admin of apache with mod_ssl

2001-04-16 Thread Rich Salz
Is there an alternate way to pass the passphrase to apache? Try to use expect. If you are going to use a script that contains the password, then you might as well put the password in a file. mod_ssl can exec a program so your "script" is as easy as #! /bin/sh echo

Re: 1024 bit key nessesary?

2001-03-23 Thread Rich Salz
The 'best practices' standard *for everyone who doesn't have to support older browsers that only did 512bit keys* is a 1024 bit key. RSA operations are only done at the start of an SSL session, not at each HTTP(S) connection. (Because public key is so expensive, it's typically only used to

Re: Certificates and Port Numbers?

2001-02-05 Thread Rich Salz
If you *look* at the cert (via something like "openssl x509 -text") you'll see that the port number is not part of the distinguished name. Do you recall Thawte asking you for a port number? That's a rhetorical question. /r$

Re: uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile it with -DEAPI)

2001-01-27 Thread Rich Salz
I am getting this error with a third party module. Someone on another disscussion group said not to worry mod_ssl has "been fixed to not care if you are using the Extended API (EAPI)" etc. "It will be/is taken out in the newest version of mod_ssl". I cannot imagine how that person could

Re: solaris slow with mod_ssl

2001-01-09 Thread Rich Salz
Do you have /dev/random installed? __ Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) www.modssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager

Re: OCSP addition (request to CertCo)

2000-12-31 Thread Rich Salz
I do not believe anybody from CertCo is on this list. If you would like CertCo to donate the mod_ssl/OCSP diffs, I suggest you contact Mark Horvath, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good luck. /r$ __ Apache Interface to OpenSSL

Re: Why pay a CA?

2000-12-07 Thread Rich Salz
This discussion stopped being relevant to mod_ssl awhile ago. Please stop. /r$ __ Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) www.modssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The future of SSL (after Sept 20th)

2000-09-01 Thread Rich Salz
The *copyright* and *license* on RSAREF is not affected by the patent expiration. If you want an implementation, use the code that is in OpenSSL itself. Are we *really* going to be totally free after September 20th? Yes. Has anyone seen anything in print by some authority stating this?

Re: ANNOUNCE: mod_ssl 2.6.5-1.3.12

2000-07-06 Thread Rich Salz
The mkcert.sh script can't easily be "scripted." We'd like to do this as part of a nightly build and regression test. Writing an expect script is too much overhead. I'm not sure why, but for some reason the "Encrypt Private key?" question (at step 4; we're doing snakeoil since it's just for

Re: Legalese...

2000-06-10 Thread Rich Salz
Do I read it correctly that it isn't legal for me at the moment, but will be after September 20th, 2000? Yes. /r$ __ Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) www.modssl.org User Support Mailing List

Re: Legalese...

2000-06-10 Thread Rich Salz
It is not clear if you can recompile mod_ssl once you bought one of those products. The patent law (and the licenses granted to those organizations, undoubtedly) is quite clear: you can't just "peel off" the license from one product and slap it onto another, without the license-grantor's

Re: Legalese... (Ralf: Docbug)

2000-06-10 Thread Rich Salz
I haven't heard of any RC4 patents either. According to RSA: RC4 is trade-secret intellectual property of RSA. Someone "stole" it and posted it to the net. We reserve the right to come after you. In the real world: The cat's out of the bag, RSA knows it, and it

OCSP addition

2000-03-12 Thread Rich Salz
We have a patch that adds OCSP checking to client-side certs for mod_ssl. It has some client code, and additions to OpenSSL to parse the data structures. We're in the process of upgrading to the current OpenSSL release. With the change in US export regulations, we would like to contribute this