Re: Seeking a suitable forum to discuss Scalar/List::Util

2015-05-18 Thread David Golden
list object to the traffic. I second the suggestion of the cpan-workers mailing list. You'll get a good cross section of high-upriver maintainers who are probably the right audience for what you're looking for. -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Curating old dists on CPAN

2015-04-30 Thread David Golden
needs to be intentional. But as I've said, I'm OK with some curation group fixing things up, marking them unsupported/deprecated, and releasing them when authors are no longer responsive. -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Proposal for building module info

2012-02-10 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Neil Bowers n...@bowers.com wrote: At the moment I have everything internally under a CPAN::Curation:: namespace, but if released separately I don't think that's appropriate. I think that namespace is fine -- it's about your project, after all.

Re: Spam to CPAN Developers? (Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position)

2011-09-06 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Olof Johansson o...@cpan.org wrote: Well, that's not true. They are however one of very few that could pass as ham, and will therefore pass through many spam filters. The problem is that there is a list of 8630 non obfuscated e-mail addresses in the

Re: Module::Build::Tiny

2011-08-29 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis pagalt...@gmx.de wrote: I find this module intriguing. Thank you. It grew out of Acme::Module::Build::Tiny -- which was an exercise to determine the *minimal* API that Build.Pl/Build needed to allow the toolchain to install a module. (Thus

Re: Module::Build::Tiny / dynamic_config=0

2011-08-29 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: I think the most complicated part is supporting whatever builder+installer assumptions people have encoded into their configurations -- maybe the client could read buildrc? For that, I'd prefer to see a new way for CPAN

Re: MetaCPAN is quickly becoming the de-facto interface to CPAN

2011-07-29 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:58 AM, sawyer x xsawy...@gmail.com wrote: I like to work in HTTPS (and we should, really, in a secure world). Many websites already moved to it by default such as github.com, all google sites, workflowy.com, foursquare and more. Those are all sites for which users

Re: PDF in Marpa::XS distribution?

2011-07-18 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Chris Marshall devel.chm...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend putting a link in the POD to the PDF on a web site.  A 4X increase in the size of the distribution is a pretty expensive way to publish.  How about a short synopsis in the POD with the link for more

Re: How to list optional dependencies?

2011-07-13 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: As I could not find and answer I wonder if there is a well defined tool for this in any of the packaging tools of Perl? If not, what is the recommended way to say in Makefile.PL and/or Build.PL: I don't require

Re: Quick and dirty guide to running Perl on Windows (was Re: Making sure your module works on other OS-es as well)

2011-07-09 Thread David Golden
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: Not to mention the general case of a CPAN author, where you can't assume that they could be bothered to *obtain* a windows/mac OS, let alone I think you're missing the point of my post, which was to offer a way for people to

Re: Making sure your module works on other OS-es as well

2011-07-05 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:35 PM, dhu...@hudes.org wrote: This all brings up a point about maintenance of Perl: it is one thing to not release new features in 5.10.1 it is another to say since we have already 514 we won't consider bug fix releases for 5.10.1 Bundling stuff into core and

Quick and dirty guide to running Perl on Windows (was Re: Making sure your module works on other OS-es as well)

2011-07-02 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: I went through a period of trying to make sure my code worked on Windows, but I've given up.  Not because it's hard to do - it generally isn't - but the complete lack of a reasonable set of tools* on Windows, which

Re: Making sure your module works on other OS-es as well

2011-07-02 Thread David Golden
5.008009 or whatever is the earliest version they choose to support. Likewise, if authors don't wish to be notified about reports, they can customize notification on the preferences site: https://prefs.cpantesters.org/ -- David Golden

Re: wrong license from META.yml

2011-06-12 Thread David Golden
Dear Herbert, The module-authors list has nothing to do with search.cpan.org and can't do anything to resolve this bug. As per the Feedback page, you need to email cpansea...@perl.org. c.f. http://search.cpan.org/feedback Regards, David On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:08 PM, herbert breunung

Announcing Module::Build 0.3800

2011-03-05 Thread David Golden
of major changes since 0.3624: [ENHANCEMENTS] - Generates META.json and MYMETA.json consistent with version 2 of the CPAN Meta Spec. [David Golden] Also in this release: [BUG FIXES] - Autogenerated documentation no longer includes private actions from Module::Build's

Re: What is your preferred way to get help?

2011-01-16 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: My objective is getting more people to contribute to CPAN. I don't necessarily want more modules. I'd prefer to get more people involved in maintaining and improving the already existing module. Reactions off the top of my

Re: contemplating module libraries

2010-12-11 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 7:40 PM, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: Does 'configure_requires' support map to a Perl version? It really maps to CPAN client versions, but Perl 5.10.1 ships with CPAN and CPANPLUS that understand configure_requires. Older Perls only need to upgrade

Re: contemplating module libraries

2010-12-10 Thread David Golden
::Install, Module::Build, or Dist::Zilla? C.f. http://www.dagolden.com/index.php/1173/what-tools-should-you-use-to-create-a-cpan-distribution/ Regards, David Golden

Re: Recommended builder?

2010-12-05 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so using Module::Starter with Module::Install would be a good choice because Module::Starter also creates some simple test files and they may be a big part of the tests for very simple modules. Do you know if

Re: Recommended builder?

2010-12-04 Thread David Golden
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, John M. Gamble jgam...@ripco.com wrote: Module::Build -- this is the 'pure perl' alternative.  It is very easy to customize compared to EU::MM but you can't rely on users having a new enough Module::Build for any given feature unless you target Perl 5.10.1

Re: Using a better compression than .gz for one's CPAN modules

2010-11-28 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis pagalt...@gmx.de wrote: I agree with the notion. But let me ask how much pressure changing the compression format on CPAN would exert on the world to adapt itself to it. Note too the quote is written from the perspective of the world: no

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-11-26 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Todd Rinaldo to...@cpanel.net wrote: I very much wish, however, that forks could get a return variable from the fork process like threads can. This has always frustrated me. To be honest, though, the fact that Linux forks are copy on write, takes much of the

Re: Using a better compression than .gz for one's CPAN modules

2010-11-26 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote:     There are two kinds of fool. One says,     “This is old, and therefore good.” And one says,     “This is new, and therefore better.” That put aside sticking with an older solution may be preferable due to the better

Re: Reducing rsync cost

2010-11-24 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote: Instead of running rsync over the whole tree, it can change to run a top level script that runs rsync over the parts that have to be copied, and then run the symlink generation on the parts that can be recreated locally. The

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-11-24 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: The other day I was at a client that uses Perl in part of their system and we talked a bit about the language and how we try to promote it at various events. Their Perl person then told me he would not use Perl now for a

Re: Using a better compression than .gz for one's CPAN modules

2010-11-19 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Will the CPAN testing and downloading toolchian will handle modules uploaded as .tar.bz2?  (Allow to install them, unpack them, etc.)  How about tar.xz. .bz2, yes. .xz, possibly, but not reliably. CPANPLUS uses

Re: Permissions on Lemonldap::NG namespaces

2010-10-18 Thread David Golden
Hi, Xavier. Have you tried to change the permissions from the PAUSE interface? https://pause.perl.org/pause/authenquery?ACTION=share_perms Look at section 3. Regards, David On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Xavier x.guim...@free.fr wrote: Hi all, I'm the maintainer of Lemonldap::NG::*

Re: RFC: Hump

2010-08-21 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Xiong Changnian xiong-c...@xuefang.com wrote: I'm looking for a top-level namespace to put Hump under. I expect quite a few submodules under the *::Hump:: but filling in that * is my goal today. Absent violent objection, I plan to keep the 'Hump' part of the

Re: Frozen Bubble 2.2.1

2010-08-05 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Guillaume Cottenceau gcott...@gmail.com wrote: Kartik and friends rewrote SDL_perl (a Perl module with SDL bindings) using a different API. Then they ported my Perl-based game to using that new Perl module, and to be CPAN-friendly. My game previous versions were

Re: Frozen Bubble 2.2.1

2010-08-05 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Kartik Thakore thakore.kar...@gmail.com wrote: thia dist_name = in M::B correct? Yes. Though maybe I should just implement a feature to add '-TRIAL', since I'll need that anyway for CPAN Meta 2 support. (Dist::Zilla already supports -TRIAL). -- David

Re: -TRIAL dists (was: Frozen Bubble 2.2.1)

2010-08-05 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: Does search.cpan.org understand -TRIAL now?  Last I looked, it was properly handled (i.e. not indexed) by PAUSE, but would leak through in a few other places where it appears that an assumption was being made without

Re: Frozen Bubble 2.2.1

2010-08-04 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Guillaume Cottenceau gcott...@gmail.com wrote: Hum. This is for an application (a game), not a module, and I want it to be clearly labelled as a beta release. So fine with There are no standard conventions for alphanumerics, and you just make life hard for the

Re: Frozen Bubble 2.2.1

2010-08-04 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Kartik Thakore thakore.kar...@gmail.com wrote: How do we make this work? I get a error doing this. I think you need to be a lot more specific about this. I'm beginning to suspect an XY problem. Walk us through -- step by step -- what you're trying to

Re: Problem with target of http://search.cpan.org/dist/Marpa/?

2010-07-08 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, jeffreykegler jeffreykeg...@mac.com wrote: My thought is that the target of  http://search.cpan.org/dist/Marpa/ is decided by the CPAN infrastructure.  Any ideas as to how I'd go about resolving this issue? Email cpansea...@perl.org as per

Re: Which Build Module?

2010-07-07 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Joshua ben Jore twi...@gmail.com wrote: What? That's certainly not what happens for me. I just ensured I had no ~/.cpan or ~/perl5, installed perlbrew, then installed new perl-5.12.1. When I ran the newly created cpan client, my default `o conf yaml_module' is

Re: Which Build Module?

2010-07-06 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Todd Rinaldo to...@cpanel.net wrote: Just so you know, AFAIK: 1. ExtUtils::MakeMaker (EU::MM) is not dead and will shortly be under new management. EU::MM is still being used for current and new modules. 2. Dist::Zilla is a packaging tool, not an installer.

Re: Which Build Module?

2010-07-06 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Joshua ben Jore twi...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, even the most up-to-date CPAN.pm comes broken out of the box for configure_requires because we say we prefer the YAML module to read the configure_requires out of $whatever.yml and don't fail-over to use the thing

Re: Conditional dependencies

2010-06-29 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Matt Grimm matt.t.gr...@gmail.com wrote: For example, I have a logger class wrapped around Log4perl that supports screen, email, and syslog appenders, and each appender can be individually toggled on or off. Is it better to force the dependencies on the

Fwd: EU::MM LIBS winnowed too-early at .PL-time?

2010-06-09 Thread David Golden
I'm forwarding to the makema...@perl.org list, as this is not likely to be of general interest to all module authors. -- David -- Forwarded message -- From: Joshua ben Jore twi...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:22 PM Subject: EU::MM LIBS winnowed too-early at .PL-time? To:

Re: CPAN Meta Spec Version 2 released

2010-04-19 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Elliot Shank p...@galumph.com wrote: Oof.  Version numbers: All components after the first are restricted to the range 0 to 999.  That's going to be a problem for those of us who include things like VCS revisions and CI build numbers in version numbers. You can

Re: Tidy up your PAUSE directories

2010-04-02 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jeffrey jeffreykeg...@jeffreykegler.com wrote: On Mar 31, 2:51 am, tim.bu...@pobox.com (Tim Bunce) wrote: It would be handy if there was a way for authors to indicate that new maintainers are sought. Perhaps via the META.yaml/(.json) file. It would also be

Re: Trimming the CPAN

2010-03-25 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: It still has Curses-UI-0.71 from February 2002, and many other previous versions. All of this takes space on the CPAN , takes time to mirror and download, and clutters the various interfaces like search.cpan.org. So I've

Re: Q about prerequisites

2010-03-25 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:58 PM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote:     'BUILD_REQUIRES' = {'LWP'           = 5.834, BUILD_REQUIRES was only recently added to ExtUtils::MakeMaker in 6.56. You need to add 'configure_requires' to META.yml specifying ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.56. That won't help users

Re: Q about prerequisites

2010-03-25 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:39 PM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote: diagnosis.  So I'll put CONFIG_REQUIRES = {EU:MM = 6.56} into Makefile.PL, and check that it propagates to META.yml. Nit: It's CONFIGURE_REQUIRES, not CONFIG_REQUIRES. Also, you'll probably want to put that in a section that only

Re: Q about prerequisites

2010-03-25 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:04 PM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote: Your comment put that in a section that only runs... has me all confused. I just put CONFIGURE_REQUIRES = {EU:MM = 6.56} into Makefile.PL. It went into META.yml. This is a small module and has no sections that I can think of.

Re: Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org wrote: So, I'm curious. Is there any kid of consensus on what to use for new modules and why?  Or is it still mostly a matter of opinion? It's completely a matter of opinion. Schwern, who maintains ExtUtils::MakeMaker, has said in

Re: ... is just needed temporarily during building or testing. Do you want to install it permanently (y/n) [yes]

2010-03-09 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: CPAN.pm is configured to automatically follow prerequsites but it still stops and ask the question ... is just needed temporarily during building or testing. Do you want to install it permanently (y/n) [yes] Why is that

Re: ... is just needed temporarily during building or testing. Do you want to install it permanently (y/n) [yes]

2010-03-09 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Foo Bar f...@bar.com wrote: http://search.cpan.org/~andk/CPAN-1.9402/lib/CPAN.pm#Config_Variables   build_requires_install_policy                      to install or not to install when a module is                      only needed for building.

Re: Dynamic prerequisite installation

2010-03-04 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:28 AM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote: as I've done in Makefile.PL below, and use what's available.  It's dynamically installing a module that I'm sending this to ask about. You don't need to dynamically install a module. You just need to dynamically create the PREREQ_PM.

Re: PAUSE ID request (FROGGS; Tobias Leich)

2010-03-04 Thread David Golden
Kartik, you can do this yourself on PAUSE. Login and click on the link for Change Permissions. Or just go here: https://pause.perl.org/pause/authenquery?ACTION=share_perms -- David On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Kartik Thakore thakore.kar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Can FROGGS get

Re: MYMETA.yml vs. SIGNATURE

2010-02-23 Thread David Golden
I'm going to step *way* back in this discussion. I've been able to replicate the issue, which is the first step to finding a thoughtful resolution: (1) All prerequisites to actually run the signature test file are satisfied. (E.g. $ENV{TEST_SIGNATURE}, etc. (2) MANIFEST.SKIP is in MANIFEST.SKIP

Re: Meta.yml spec

2010-02-18 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:49 PM, David Precious dav...@preshweb.co.uk wrote: I think Ivan's point was more that the repo URL in question does not actually appear anywhere within the VCS::Which distribution: http://search.cpan.org/grep?cpanid=IVANWILLSrelease=VCS-Which-v0.1.2string=github Odd

Re: Module::Build and ActiveState

2010-01-07 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Klaus klau...@gmail.com wrote: I have a patch that fixes those problems. 3 modules are to be patched: ActivePerl::DocTools::Pod, ExtUtils::Command::MM and Module::Build::Base. Who do I need to contact to have all 3 modules patched at the same time ? For

Re: Perl 6 and the CPAN?

2010-01-02 Thread David Golden
I suggest taking this up on the cpan-workers list instead of module-authors. David On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Ovid publiustemp-moduleautho...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I've started writing Config::INI, an INI reader/writer in Perl 6.  It's on github at

Announcing Module::Build version 0.36

2009-12-20 Thread David Golden
; revised by David Golden] - Updated PPM generation to PPM v4 (RT#49600) [Olivier Mengue] - When module_name is not supplied, no packlist was being written; fixed by guessing module_name from dist_version_from or the directory name (just like ExtUtils::Manifest does without NAME) [David Golden

Fwd: MANIFEST (Makefile.pl) ignore Mercurial files

2009-12-17 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Paul LeoNerd Evans leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote: I have a standard MANIFEST.SKIP... For anyone interested, the ExtUtils-Manifest module comes with a very nice default MANIFEST.SKIP as part of the distribution:

Re: flame bait: execution speed Perl vs. C (Date::Calc::PP vs. Date::Calc::XS)

2009-11-18 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly I've found for tight loops with lots of calculations, XS/C is going to be faster. Why? Because it's compiled into machine code and executed directly on the chip. On the other hand, Perl is compiled into

Re: Weekend entertainment

2009-11-15 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:51 AM, David Landgren da...@landgren.net wrote: I wanted to share this... Some people have no sense of humour. This came up on the cont...@perl.org queue. (I shall compose a message saying Acme is fun, etc. etc. Can anyone point me to other similar Acme modules to

Re: Weekend entertainment

2009-11-15 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Jerry D. Hedden jdhed...@cpan.org wrote: Consider Jeff Foxworthy making fun of rednecks. How is that different? (Apologies if redneck jokes are too obscure for the non-Americans reading this thread.) Jeff Foxworthy is a comedian. (Damn good one, too!) But

Re: Why you don't want to use /dev/random for testing

2009-11-11 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:01 PM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote: Many of you know that the random number generator /dev/random is subject to delays when it has not accumulated enough entropy, which is to say randomness.  These delays are said to be longer on Linux /dev/random that on some other

Re: Why you don't want to use /dev/random for testing

2009-11-11 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how many of these modules use it -- in particular, I know Math::Random::ISAAC only mentions it in POD. Using /dev/random isn't very portable -- what happens when you're on Windows? Some things may check

Re: Repository links in META/Pod should be http://

2009-10-31 Thread David Golden
On Oct 31, 2009 6:38 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.moda...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * Burak Gürsoy burakgur...@gmx.net [2009-10-31T18:13:05] I see that some modules have git:// protocol as the repo address in META.yml and/or Pod. I don't... I'm strongly opposed. There might not be any HTTP URL to my

Re: Repository links in META/Pod should be http://

2009-10-31 Thread David Golden
Its also largely irrelevant, since the 2.0 META spec will distinguish between repo and browseable interface. David On Oct 31, 2009 6:38 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.moda...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * Burak Gürsoy burakgur...@gmx.net [2009-10-31T18:13:05] I see that some modules have git:// protocol

Re: How can I tell MakeMaker to insert recommended modules into META.yml?

2009-10-18 Thread David Golden
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey hdp.perl.module-auth...@weftsoar.net wrote: There are a number of problems with this, but the biggest is that nothing really does anything with 'recommends' in META.yml, so your audience is basically going to be the people who go and read it

Re: How to best detect availability of C compiler in Makefile.PL?

2009-10-13 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, O. STeffen BEYer ost...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ryan, thanks a lot for your fast response (see a copy at the bottom of this message for convenience)! See also Devel::CheckLib, which can check for a compiler for you (just don't specify a lib) and has a handy

Re: Questions about encouraging testers

2009-09-21 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote: Most automated smoke testing will just quietly exit and continue. The testers will never see the prompt.  This is generally how automated testers like it (though there are exceptions).  Stopping at every Nth module to figure out

Re: Location of MyConfig.pm governing cpan configurations changed involuntarily

2009-09-20 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:05 AM, James E Keenan jk...@verizon.net wrote: I know that for several years Adam Kennedy has been attempting to provide more rigorous, OS-specific definitions of 'home directory' in File::HomeDir.  As part of that effort, he had discussions with Chris Nandor re the

Re: Questions about encouraging testers

2009-09-20 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:51 PM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote: 1. Why are there so few test reports?  Supposedly the prompt( Please enter path...)    which is provided by ExtUtils::MakeMaker, will not hang but will sense the smoky    environment and return the default from $libpath.  

Re: how to set $VERSION throughout distribution

2009-09-14 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: Subversion is more like mercurial/git in that sense - versions go by changesets rather than individual files. I think he meant it in the sense of having a monotonically increasing revision number, which doesn't exist for git. --

Re: how to set $VERSION throughout distribution

2009-09-13 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Jerry D. Hedden jdhed...@cpan.org wrote: package Workflow; use Workflow::VERSION; $Workflow::VERSION = $Workflow::VERSION::VERSION; This sort of strategy caused problems with the CPANPLUS module code awhile back in that the 'cpan-r' command showed its

Re: how to set $VERSION throughout distribution

2009-09-13 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jerry D. Hedden jdhed...@cpan.org wrote: I use the three number form:   $VERSION = q(v1.2.3); This may cause problems because it makes $VERSION a string, namely, v1.2.3.  This prohibits numeric version comparisons which is the norm. The quoting definitely

Re: Developer releases?

2009-09-05 Thread David Golden
2009/9/5 Burak Gürsoy burakgur...@gmx.net: From: Shmuel Fomberg [mailto:semu...@012.net.il] what did I do wrong? Your distro version does not have the underscore, so it's not marked as a dev release. You should quote the version. i.e.: our $VERSION = '0.26_01'; A bare underscore in

CPAN Upload: D/DA/DAGOLDEN/Module-Build-0.35.tar.gz

2009-08-27 Thread David Golden
:58:26 EDT 2009 Bug fixes: - Multiple test fixes for OS2 [Ilya Zakharevich] - Generated.ppd files use :utf8 if possible (RT#48827) [Olivier Mengue] - Fixed preservation of custom install_paths on resume (RT#41166) [David Golden] - Warn instead of crashing when Pod::Man tries to create files

Re: XML::Rules new versions not seen by CPAN shell

2009-08-27 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM, David Cantrellda...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: CPAN.pm already tells you if a new CPAN.pm is available, I'm simply proposing extending that because no-one knows that the 'r' command exists.  I certainly didn't. I like that idea. Also, note that this time round

Re: XML::Rules new versions not seen by CPAN shell

2009-08-27 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Eric Wilhelmenoba...@gmail.com wrote: # from David Cantrell # on Thursday 27 August 2009 07:33:   WARNING: there are new versions of Module::Build and Module::Install   available, it is strongly recommended that you upgrade them CPAN.pm already tells you if a

Call for proposals: CPAN META Spec

2009-08-26 Thread David Golden
[Reposted from http://www.dagolden.com/index.php/458/call-for-proposals-cpan-meta-spec/ ] The CPAN META Spec is the basis for the META.yml metadata files included in most modern CPAN distributions. Since the spec was last updated two years ago, there have been suggestions in many forums for how

Re: XML::Rules new versions not seen by CPAN shell

2009-08-25 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Jenda Krynickyje...@krynicky.cz wrote: Is there any problem in the way I built the modules (using Module::Build 0.2808)? Or is there anything wrong with the CPAN indexer or something??? 1.05 is the version listed in the CPAN index file, so for whatever reason

Re: XML::Rules new versions not seen by CPAN shell

2009-08-25 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Jenda Krynickyje...@krynicky.cz wrote: On the other hand let me express my dissatisfaction with this undertested, underannounced, abrupt and pretty annoying change. It was in response to a perceived security hole. So yes, it was underannounced and yes that's

Re: XML::Rules new versions not seen by CPAN shell

2009-08-25 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Bill Wardb...@wards.net wrote: Do I understand this right?  If a tar file contains a directory with permissions 777 - as would be likely to happen if it was made on Windows - then PAUSE rejects it?  Why doesn't PAUSE just modify the permissions in the tarfile

ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.20_05 - release candidate

2009-08-23 Thread David Golden
to the RT queue: http://rt.cpan.org/Dist/Display.html?Queue=ExtUtils-ParseXS Thank you. David Golden

Module-Build-0.34_06

2009-08-23 Thread David Golden
://rt.cpan.org/Dist/Display.html?Queue=Module-Build Thank you. David Golden

Re: splitting up a monolithic distribution - bioperl

2009-08-17 Thread David Golden
libwin32 did it. It wasn't that many dists. Jan Dubois might have pointers. The thing that jumps out to me as a potential problem is dependencly management. Particularly, if anything is mutually dependent, they should stay in the same dist. David On Aug 17, 2009 8:29 AM, Chris Fields

Re: New module: Alien::SDL

2009-08-07 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Kartik Thakorethakore.kar...@gmail.com wrote: either source or binaries. Since this will be my first CPAN module, how do I upload the module? I already have a cpan account. Read the instructions: https://pause.perl.org/pause/authenquery?ACTION=pause_04about

Re: Perl Monks compromised, PAUSE accounts at risk

2009-07-30 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Andy Lestera...@petdance.com wrote: On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:58 AM, imacat wrote: Dear all,   I received this mail today.  Is this real?  Or is it another phishing? It's real. I wrote the script. Andreas Koenig sent it out.

Re: Perl Monks compromised, PAUSE accounts at risk

2009-07-30 Thread David Golden
2009/7/30 Burak Gürsoy burakgur...@gmx.net: BTW, I really *hope* that PAUSE is not dumb like PM to store passwords as plain text? The passwords on PAUSE are hashed, not plain text. The plain text passwords from Perl Monks are being hashed to find matches and matching accounts are being dealt

Re: Test Failures - XS, does not match bootstrap parameter and version objects

2009-07-28 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Martin J. Evansmartin.ev...@easysoft.com wrote: I think a new version of version.pm was made available a few days ago by David Golden (0.77). You fails results seem to mention if (0.77). Perhaps this is the cause. I've cc'ed David just in case (apologies if I'm

Re: Help Needed in Sorting and Updating the List of Perl Mailing Lists

2009-05-11 Thread David Golden
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Elaine Ashton eash...@mac.com wrote: On May 11, 2009, at 5:37 PM, David Golden wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Elaine Ashton eash...@mac.com wrote: Well, nobody asked for the data nor did anyone ever offer updates. http://tinyurl.com/r26sxy http

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-06 Thread David Golden
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Jonathan Rockway j...@jrock.us wrote: You seem to hate everything.  I am confused as to why people even waste their time trying to help you. [snip] Anyway, embrace modules.  They are the reason to use Perl. I think Bill gets Perl. (c.f.

Re: Puzzling error from cpan testers

2009-05-05 Thread David Golden
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Jonathan Leto jal...@gmail.com wrote: I very much recommend that you look at is_similar() in Math::GSL::Test, it has implemented at least a few wheels that you are destined to want: Yikes. You must have missed Test::Number::Delta when you were writing that. On

Re: Dual-Build Modules (What to do if both Makefile.PL and Build.PL exist)

2009-05-05 Thread David Golden
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: Add to this some complication from Module::Install, which also uses Makefile.PL. So in that case maybe Makefile.PL is preferred (for Module::Install to do its thing) rather than Build.PL. (On the other hand, I don't

Re: Puzzling error from cpan testers

2009-05-03 Thread David Golden
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: For my module Number::Format I am getting a strange result from cpan testers that I can't replicate. See this error report... http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/03/msg3560533.html # Failed test 'pi with

Re: a lot of controversy about Module::Build

2009-04-08 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: If there has been any controversy, it's been about the fact that M::B was the first tool to break from how we used to do it.  This exposed I'll add just my 2 cents to say that a good deal of the controversy was hung up on

Re: META.yml no_index

2009-04-02 Thread David Golden
It's not explicitly prohibited to have more than one, but it's implied that it describes a distribution, not a directory tree within a distribution. And the current crop of tools only look for META.yml at the top level directory. As for the first question, I point you to visitcpan for your

Re: Public Domain - License Text?

2009-03-19 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: If you are legally required to do so, then you may use this file under, at your option: 1. The MIT/X11 License; or, 2. The BSD License; or, 3. The Perl Artistic License, version 2.0 or later; or, 4. The GNU General

Re: Public Domain - License Text?

2009-03-19 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:31 PM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Scott Elcomb pse...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I'm not sure if it's of any value to you however the folks behind the

Re: Public Domain - License Text?

2009-03-19 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: David: Interesting idea. I'll add that in as option 6. I don't want to replace the others though in case the web site disappears at some point in the future, making the license pretty ambiguous. More formally, you

Re: Net::Vimeo::API - namespace question

2009-03-10 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: WWW::Vimeo. That would be my choice. Adding API seems redundant. David

Re: Net::Vimeo::API - namespace question

2009-03-10 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Bill Ward b...@wards.net wrote: I agree about dropping API, but prefer Net.  WWW to me suggests web browsers and HTML. There are certainly plenty of web-service interface modules popping up under Net. Personally, I wish people used that only for lower-level

Re: Science, Engineering, Craft (was once: something about hash references)

2009-03-03 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: # from Jonathan Rockway # on Tuesday 03 March 2009 10:16: This is just one of the many things I have been upset with the treatment of in my Computer Science program--it's way too academic, and not applied enough, but I

Re: Science, Engineering, Craft (was once: something about hash references)

2009-03-03 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: And nobody ever picks $good, yet they wonder why they get what they get. I think it's related to difficulty of judging future opportunity costs. Paying for $good has an immediate cost now over paying for $decent, but it's

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