Could you elaborate a bit on what your father did in high school for phonics
instruction?
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:00:21
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On another listserv, some of us are talking about George Lakoff's book. In
it he talks about how political dialogue shapes our thoughts by the frames
that surround it. Apparently the mind set of the separation of whole
language and phonics has framed some thinking by some posters here.
I'm sure from your experience it SEEMED as though there was no phonics being
taught. Not the same thing.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Cindy pierc...@comcast.net wrote:
I can only speak from my experience. I didn't mean to upset anyone. When
my boys were in elementary school, whole
As frustrating as it is, some bells can't be un-rung. As far as I can tell,
the words whole language have forever been contaminated and are useless in
any discussion. You can't clip the baggage off the phrase, either pro or
con.
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Hmm. You got me thinking, Nancy. The thing about the phonics vs. whole
language frame is that there is no vs since phonics is one of the cueing
systems we use as readers and whole language is a philosophy of teaching and
learning, and for some of us it's also the way we live our lives. On a
I can only speak from my experience. I didn't mean to upset anyone. When my
boys were in elementary school, whole language became the thing. They are
now 21 and 23. The schools around us taught NO PHONICS. We ended up with a
huge group of kids that were in 3rd and 4th grade, had received
I would like to get some suggestions from you guys on ideas for starting some
sort of book club, writing club, poetry club, etc. to do with students either
during lunch, before or after school. What things have you done? This is my
third year as a reading specialist at a K-5 school.I don't know
Cindy,
I deeply respect your position and can feel your pain. Just know that much was
done in the name of whole language that was as far removed from the belief
systems and teachings of those who got the movement rolling. Thank you for
stating your position with dignity and respect.
Lori
Cindy,
I am not going to look at your email from any kind of vs. stance. I hope
you don't mind if I try analyze it somewhat in terms of the frame, and how
that frame affects perception and comprehension. Some of the words that I
stopped at and had to think about when reading it were;
LisaAmiee Buckner has 2 great books about using reading notebook or
journals. Notebook Know How is her first book and the name of her 2nd book
Notebook Connections. I have the first book and have read it cover to cover and
have the second book ordered from Stenhouse Publishing.
You can
Hi, my name is Tiffany Heikkila and I am a student in the special education
program at Wayne State University. I will be graduating in the spring of 2010!
I am going to be student teaching in the fall in a second grade classroom. I
want to know if there is anyone who can give me advice on
Maybe we should begin a whole language umbrella again..I still consider myself
a whole language teacher...and I teach graduate school:)
Mena
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I think you started an excellent discussion Cindy:)
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Hi,
I did a writing club this past year with the grades 1 - 3 at my school. I
never expected to get the response I got and I didn't turn anyone away. During
the year a few kids dropped out (they called it quitting, which for some reason
the term quitting bothers me but that's another post)
We purchased the books through iTunes, then burned them on CD. These cd's are
only readable by computer and with each loading of the book, you are
reconnected to iTunes. Once they are removed from a computer, iTunes also seems
to know and you retain the rights to load again. Worked extremely
Target an interest group not an ability group for something like this.
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Lori
I loved your email.I have been thinking about putting together a listening
center in my room and was wondering if you could give me the site to purchase
the books online? I have Googled it and been unsuccessful. I would be looking
for books at a grade 3/4 level, not high school. I
What are the best ways to teach students to use precise word choice/
specific language for state writing assessments?
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From the year I was born again into whole whole language (after 20 years
on the roadwe moved 18 times due to my exhusband's military career and I
never had time to really learn to teach though I did some things right)
I have been whole language in all my many and various teaching
Sometimes double entry journals are good for the students to go back to
specific ideas from writing while allowing them freedom to focus on parts of
the writing they found important.
http://www.sdcoe.k12.ca.us/SCORE/actbank/tdentry.htm . Also the SQ3R
http://www.studygs.net/texred2.htm is good
Hi everyone,
I'm currently doing a masters in reading education and I'm doing some
research on read alouds for young children from age 1 to about 1st or 2nd
grade. My topic deals with finding out how crucial or important it is to
start reading aloud to children before they enter school.
What I love about the people on this list (and the TAWL list) is that they
are so willing to listen. They work to understand what someone is trying to
communicate. They sometimes respectfully disagree. And they never give up.
Thank you Lori and others who are still working at this conversation.
There is plenty out there, but you may want to read Reading Magic by Mem Fox.
It is not 'researchy' but references some research and is entirely quoatable.
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I have worked with many student teachers over the years. I think requesting an
initial meeting so that you can both lay cards on the table is very wise. I
had expectations of my student teachers that sometimes (depending on the
institution) exceeded those of their program. I requested that
If there is no war nobody needs to fight back.
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My students last year had many conversations about the books they read--I
don't know of anything I did other than letting them have times to talk
during independent reading time--being flexible about that time to read and
discuss and share books with friends. It was exciting to watch them
Florida has a wonderful site that provides hundreds of books and stories
you can downlaod to play on your computer or to download Mp3 to an iPod.
It is called Lit2Go
http://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/index.htm
Anne Marie Russell
Pacetti Bay Middle School
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Hi everyone,
I just spent a few minutes catching up on the listserv email. (I am working on
my doctorate and have class Wednesday night and that precludes me reading
MOSAIC most Wednesday evenings so I was behind a bit.)
I just want to thank the membership for politely working through the
Does anyone have ides on how to get students to talk about books they read
without you. ?When they read books in the reading center or from the library
how do you get the to have quality discussions about what they read? Any ideas
are helpful.
Natalie-Grade 3 Teacher
Elisa, you said it beautifully and thoughtfully.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:39:47 -0600
From: elwaingor...@cbe.ab.ca
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd
Hello!
I would like to start a book club for my Kindergarten students. I'm
interested in knowing how to go about implementing this or getting some
ideas of what you have done in your classroom. My goal is to motivate my
students to want to read - I've incorporated some interesting boy books
We did it through iTunes (Mac based). We just searched authors and titles like
you would a song. My son tells me you can get to iTunes on PC's. He is not
here now, but I can ask him later. Incidentally, the splitters for the
headphones came from Radio Shack and allowed kids to use earbuds
And that should be up to us, shouldn't it? However, teachers have for too long
abdicated this right and so, for better or for worse, there is a war of sorts
(call it whatever you want - this is not my frame but the one that has been
thrusted upon us) and so we do need to fight back.
Elisa
I am teaching students who are REALLY hard to get talking - especially the
high schoolers. I told the students that their discussions are the way they
build comprehension and also the way we can find evidence of their
comprehension. So sometimes we tape their discussions when I'm not there.
And
I've taught for 31 years and raised 4 children--reading aloud is VERY
important-I've taught K-3rd and read aloud time in my classroom is sacred.
It was also one of my favorite times with my own children.
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Go to Bill Teale (William) first, and Elizabeth Sulzby, and you can see the
roots of the emergent literacy movement, which was founded in research.
Online go to Lester Laminack and Jim Trelease. Don't forget Bill Martin,
Junior. Go to Brian Cambourne and the Mannings. What you're asking about
Elisa didn't say there wasn't a war; she said she didn't name it a war. She
said that's why we teachers needed to fight back.
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If there is no war nobody needs to fight back.
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Would you please submit this to go to our files? I don't want it to get
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Anne M. Russell russ...@stjohns.k12.fl.us
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Florida has a wonderful site that provides hundreds of books and stories
you can downlaod to play on your computer or
Thank you Anne Marie!
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Exactly.
Thank you.
Elisa
Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada
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How do I do that?
Anne Marie Russell
Pacetti Bay Middle School
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
I just took a course on picture books and one of the days the teacher laid
out a huge selection of books, roughly 10 per group. We had 2-3 minutes to
breeze through them and write down the ones that interested us. It was
similar to speed dating but with books. It was really neat and although we
Hello, I have been teaching first grade for the past 3 years. This year I will
be teaching kindergarten for the first time. I was wondering if anyone had any
advice or suggestions for me to help next year be a successful year.
Thanks,
Kelly
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Hey Guys,
I'm doing research on the use of picture books in various content areas
(math, science, art, music, social studies, etc.). Just wondering if anyone
has had found success in this or maybe had a breakthrough with a chid (any
grade k-12). Maybe they didn't understand a certain math
I definitely would like more info. You can email me at ojen...@sbcglobal.net.
Thanks so much. Jen
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thanks
Anne Marie Russell
Pacetti Bay Middle School
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's
too dark to read.
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Definitely go in before school starts and help her set up the room. This
will give you time to chit chat and build a relationship AND see what goes
in to setting up a classroom before schools starts.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:59 PM, EDWARD JACKSON lori_jack...@q.com wrote:
I have worked with
Anne Marie and Bev
I took care of it. You email Keith, our wonderful tech guy...
Jennifer
In a message dated 7/23/2009 5:36:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
russ...@stjohns.k12.fl.us writes:
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Would you
Use picture books that use the language you are looking for..you would be
amazed how many books are out there to teach these different aspects word
choice and language usage!
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Karen Carol Ramgadoo kramg...@fau.eduwrote:
What are the best ways to teach students
How awesome. What a great man your husband is. What is a spilitter jack
On Jul 22, 2009, at 8:27 PM, EDWARD JACKSON wrote:
Last year my husband introduced science fiction to his middle school
students. After discovering that many of them had never successfully
complete a novel, he decided
I am a reading specialist I love doing book clubs. I am running
some this summer with students in grades 2-5. I have been using Harvey
Daniels book Literature circles as a resource and Aimee Buckner's
readers notebook. Plus guided. Reading 3-6 by fountas Pinnell I
usuallly enlist
I taught K for 21 years (with 1st and preschool mixed in occasionally)
before moving to 2nd 2 years ago. Just one word comes to mind:
MODEL, MODEL, MODEL
If you want blocks put away in a certain fashion, model, then let them
practice. If you want the writing center materials to be used in a
Use a lot of exemplars and call attention to the words that tests demand.
Maxine
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What are the best ways to teach students to use precise word choice/
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My topic deals with finding out how crucial or important it is to
start
It is a little do-dad that plugs into the headphone jack. It is connected (or
split) into two or three jacks for headphones.
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Megan,
I've just purchased a series of picture books for math called MathStart by
Stuart J Murphy, published by Harper Collins. There are 3 levels: Level
1--ages 3 and up, Level 2--ages 6 and up, and Level 3--ages 7 and up. Also
included are suggestions for adults to use with children,
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