答复: 答复: 答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-11-01 Thread Li Xianhua
> E-mail:lixian...@cn.fujitsu.com > > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Barry Haddow [mailto:bhad...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk] > 发送时间: 2011年11月1日 17:17 > 收件人: Li Xianhua > 抄送: moses-support@mit.edu > 主题: Re: 答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script > > Hi Xianhua > > >

Re: 答复: 答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-11-01 Thread Barry Haddow
t; > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Barry Haddow [mailto:bhad...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk] > 发送时间: 2011年11月1日 17:17 > 收件人: Li Xianhua > 抄送: moses-support@mit.edu > 主题: Re: 答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script > > Hi Xianhua > > > that to reduce the server burd

答复: 答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-11-01 Thread Li Xianhua
2011年11月1日 17:17 收件人: Li Xianhua 抄送: moses-support@mit.edu 主题: Re: 答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script Hi Xianhua > that to reduce the server burden? So the question is like, will the > improvement we get while run deterministic mert still be observed > while run undeterministi

Re: 答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-11-01 Thread Barry Haddow
ing, China ,100025 > E-mail:lixian...@cn.fujitsu.com > > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Barry Haddow [mailto:bhad...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk] > 发送时间: 2011年11月1日 16:51 > 收件人: moses-support@mit.edu > 抄送: Li Xianhua > 主题: Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script > > Hi Xianhua >

答复: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-11-01 Thread Li Xianhua
25 E-mail:lixian...@cn.fujitsu.com -邮件原件- 发件人: Barry Haddow [mailto:bhad...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk] 发送时间: 2011年11月1日 16:51 收件人: moses-support@mit.edu 抄送: Li Xianhua 主题: Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script Hi Xianhua Way 1 uses no random restarts at all, so each iteration starts where the

Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-11-01 Thread Barry Haddow
Hi Xianhua Way 1 uses no random restarts at all, so each iteration starts where the last one left off, which is why the results are always the same. The other methods both use random restarts (which make them different from Way 1) and they each use fixed seeds (so they are deterministic) but th

Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-31 Thread Li Xianhua
Hi all, About the moses mert problem Neda mentioned, I tried three ways to make MERT deterministic, but their results between them are different. Way 1: edit mert-moses.pl line 105: "my $_RANDOM-RESTARTS=20", change 20 to 0 Way 2: switch to the mert-moses.pl call: --mertar

Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-31 Thread Barry Haddow
i Neda, > > > > > > > > this happens because the seed used in the MERT optimizer depends by > > > > default on the moment on which you launch it. > > > > If you need deterministic MERT runs, you can set the seed by adding > > > > this > &

Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-31 Thread Neda NoorMohammadi
Hi Neda, > > > > > > this happens because the seed used in the MERT optimizer depends by > > > default on the moment on which you launch it. > > > If you need deterministic MERT runs, you can set the seed by adding > this > > > switch to the mert-mos

Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-31 Thread Barry Haddow
> > > > Le 29/10/2011 18:11, moses-support-requ...@mit.edu a écrit : > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:05:11 +0100 > >> From: Barry Haddow > >> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script > >> To: moses-support@mit.edu > &

Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-31 Thread Nicola Bertoldi
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Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-29 Thread Patrik Lambert
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Re: [Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-29 Thread Barry Haddow
Hi Neda Yes, this is quite normal. The best plan is to do several runs and take the average bleu. See this paper for a discussion http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~jhclark/pubs/significance.pdf cheers - Barry On Saturday 29 Oct 2011 10:09:29 Neda NoorMohammadi wrote: > hello, > > In my experiment this i

[Moses-support] mert-moses.pl script

2011-10-29 Thread Neda NoorMohammadi
hello, In my experiment this is happening: I am running mert-moses.pl script on a same develop set and configure file in a same condition but by each execution I gain different weights which leads to different Bleu (about 1%) (note that these executions are independent of each other and are init