Re: I can not connect to cvs

2000-12-11 Thread Simon P. Lucy
At 15:08 11/12/2000 +0800, lamb liu wrote: My tarball is M18 and about 17M after unzip , where can I find the whole package? why they don't put these files together in one package? It is, unless its a binary distribution, i.e. a running version of Mozilla rather than the source. Which do you

Re: Any moderators?

2000-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
There's a significant amount of spam on these newsgroups. Is anyone moderating them? No, this is an unmoderated newsgroup. Gerv

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Simon P. Lucy
At 09:20 11/12/2000 +, Gervase Markham wrote: 1. Create some "catchy" additional newsgroups that are not intended to be used as a development communications channel in the first place (e.g. mozilla.bugs.browser, mozilla.bugs.mail-news). 2. Make them moderated by a robot that points

Strange JavaScript problem with M18 - hard to describe succinctly

2000-12-11 Thread D. D. Brierton
Sorry about the cryptic suject. The following works perfectly in IE 5.0 on Win98. However, I'm having the strangest problem with it on Mozilla M18 on Linux. To demonstrate: http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb/teaching/hume/enquiry/test.html (The above works only in IE5, NN6) Basically the above

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Ben Bucksch
Simon P. Lucy wrote: In some ways it would be nice if the licence obligated the distributor (where they maintained their own source location), to support their own distribution and to document to mozilla.org the location of their support channel. I don't think this is a good idea.

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Ben Bucksch
Gervase Markham wrote: 1. Create some "catchy" additional newsgroups that are not intended to be used as a development communications channel in the first place (e.g. mozilla.bugs.browser, mozilla.bugs.mail-news). 2. Make them moderated by a robot that points new posters to an FAQ page.

Re: About minimum platform requirements.

2000-12-11 Thread nospam
Gervase Markham wrote: They require keyboard shortcuts which are easy to use with one hand; but that doesn't require a separate skin, and it improves usability for everybody. Not necessarily, if the shortcuts are harder to remember as a result. I agree with you about the other stuff.

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Ben Bucksch
Simon P. Lucy wrote: If they change the distribution and provide a source link then they should support it. Why? Say, with Beonex, I decided not to offer any support at all. I would just put out the binaries and let people help themselves using whateven channels they like - friends,

Re: file:/// as first part of local computer/network link

2000-12-11 Thread Fredrick R. Kenniston III
Jesse Ruderman wrote: network links for windows are usually file:/ Thanks. Regards, Fredrick

Re: NS 6 Does NOT Support Standards...

2000-12-11 Thread Fredrick R. Kenniston III
Steve Henson wrote: Netscape 6 does not support Internet standards in my opinion. If you print a web page with an applet on it, the applet will not print. This is a serious issue for E-Commerce sites that are powered by applets that require customers to print receipts and tickets. Other

Re: Strange JavaScript problem with M18 - hard to describe succinctly

2000-12-11 Thread Andreas Franke
"D. D. Brierton" wrote: I'm having the strangest problem with it on Mozilla M18 on Linux. [...] (The above works only in IE5, NN6) If it works with NS6 but not with M18, then it's likely a bug that has been fixed after M18. Check out Mozilla 0.6, which is what NS6 is based on, or, even

Charset problem??? C 4.76

2000-12-11 Thread NoSpam
Hi! I often browse websites and read newsgroups at the same time. If I browse a site with a weird charset this also affects my writing of newsgroup postings (lots of ? characters instead of special language characters), and I therefore get flamed regularly :-) Is this a setting I am missing, or

Re: About minimum platform requirements.

2000-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
people to try out there ideas", I didn't mean in the default chrome! Ouch! /there/their/. slaps wrist Gerv

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Stuart Ballard
Gervase Markham wrote: No. Because Newsgroups are a "pull" mechanism, you can't do something like this. Hence the planned "auto-add-FAQ-URL" magic for some of the new newsgroups. Could we also do something inside the robo-moderator along the lines of checking whether the poster has posted

Mozilla 0.6: will it expire?

2000-12-11 Thread Daniel Cerman
Is Mozilla 0.6 timebombed to expire at some point, or can it be used indefinitely? I'd like to deploy it to some users, but only if it won't cease functioning after a short interval. Thanks in advance.

Re: Why can Opera be so fast and Mozilla so slow?

2000-12-11 Thread Kyle A. Miller
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:38:30 +0100, Andreas Franke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is Mozilla so slow? Good question. If you have a patch to make Mozilla faster, or a testcase that points out bottlenecks in the code, please file a bug and add the "perf" keyword. Andreas You bet. Keep in

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Andreas Franke
Stuart Ballard wrote: Could we also do something inside the robo-moderator along the lines of checking whether the poster has posted successfully once before, and if so, allow the post unconditionally? This adds additional complexity, but it may be possible. If this is implemented, we will

script works in ns4 but not in mozilla

2000-12-11 Thread Michael RĂ¼big
Hi, I have a problem with the following script: -- HTML HEAD script language="JavaScript" !-- function Show() { document.layers.test.visibility = "show" }; function Hide() { document.layers.test.visibility = "hide" }; // -- /SCRIPT /HEAD BODY

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Asa Dotzler
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip I give up. I'll continue to test Mozilla (just downloaded and installed 0.6). (didn't see much improvement. No fix for the hiding of read messages), reporting bugs. 0.6 doesn't have a single fix in it that you'll notice. 0.6 is a build from the

Re: Newsgroup Renaming

2000-12-11 Thread Henri Sivonen
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Bucksch) wrote: IMO, the current situation doesn't help anybody. Compared to withdrawing nightlies, the current situation is better for people who in your categorization are considered "testers" and people who have about the same skill

Re: Newsgroup Renaming

2000-12-11 Thread Henri Sivonen
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Bucksch) wrote: Matthew Thomas wrote: The only alternative I see is to completely change the policy of mozilla.org. Balderdash. People other than developers and testers are going to use

Re: Newsgroup Renaming: Update

2000-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
There's more than democracy going on here. Largely it comes down to making a convincing case to the PTB. Is that me? If so, what does it stand for? ;-) hopes he didn't mean PHB Gerv

Re: When will PSM be included in nightly mozilla builds?

2000-12-11 Thread Asa Dotzler
Charlie Zender wrote: Hi, Just wondering when/if we will finally be able to get a nightly build that has PSM built in so we do not have to install it separately (which has not worked for me and others on Linux, i.e., SSL connections are still refused). Thanks, Charlie Being worked

Re: Newsgroup Renaming: Update

2000-12-11 Thread Braden McDaniel
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gervase Markham" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's more than democracy going on here. Largely it comes down to making a convincing case to the PTB. Is that me? If so, what does it stand for? ;-) hopes he didn't mean PHB Powers That Be. And yes, you're one

Re: When will PSM be included in nightly mozilla builds?

2000-12-11 Thread Eric Vaandering
Asa Dotzler wrote: Charlie Zender wrote: Hi, Just wondering when/if we will finally be able to get a nightly build that has PSM built in so we do not have to install it separately (which has not worked for me and others on Linux, i.e., SSL connections are still refused).

Re: we can all live together

2000-12-11 Thread Orrin Edenfield
Ok, I figured I would have to do something like that, to be safe. Thanks Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">Orrin Edenfield wrote: Is there anyone who knows if it is safe to have both Netscape 6, and theMozilla on the same machine, and both programs function? I currentlyuse

Re: When will PSM be included in nightly mozilla builds?

2000-12-11 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Asa Dotzler wrote: Charlie Zender wrote: Hi, Just wondering when/if we will finally be able to get a nightly build that has PSM built in so we do not have to install it separately (which has not worked for me and others on Linux, i.e., SSL connections are still refused).

scheduled downtime for cvs-mirror Friday

2000-12-11 Thread Dawn Endico
There will be a scheduled downtime this Friday (12/15) for cvs-mirror.mozilla.org at 22:00 PST. It's expected that the machine will be back up and running by 03:00 PST the following morning. This means that anonymous CVS will be down during that time. This server is hosted by Source Forge

Re: When will PSM be included in nightly mozilla builds?

2000-12-11 Thread Daniel Veditz
"Michael H. Warfield" wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 06:43:00PM -0800, Daniel Veditz wrote: Eric Vaandering wrote: How will this be handled with the installer version. Will it come as part of the browser, or will it be an option to check/uncheck like MailNews? The netscape

Re: View Source - no menu?

2000-12-11 Thread Daniel Veditz
Jesse Ruderman wrote: Mac doesn't like the missing menu at all, that's bug 50877. At least one Windows user doesn't like them missing, either. Is there a bug to bring them back on all platforms? There's bug 32719, but that's been marked as a dup of a bug for keyboard shortcuts (?!).

Re: mozilla.org for users?

2000-12-11 Thread Ben Bucksch
fantasai wrote: For those objecting on terms of policy, I assert the following: that it is in mozilla.org's mission statement do do this. I quote: "A group exists that is chartered to act as the virtual meeting place for the Mozilla code. That group is mozilla.org. We will provide a