Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?

2002-01-05 Thread JTK
Gert Sidar wrote: > > JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > RV wrote: > > I would like your name and address so I or my legal counsel can tell you > > to your face what happened to the last guy who tried to pull this sort > > of defamation and libel bullshit. H

RE: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread TomMallard
Mozilla is a work in progress, not a product. That's a huge difference, there's no market for Mozilla, or NS anymore for that matter. They are just not practical for most internet/intranet users at the moment. Maybe after Mozilla is released we'll see some market share move to it, but for now it's

Re: Moz 0.97 (and 0.95) - Java support?

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Harris
On Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:18:49 +1030, Mike Gratton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Came here to post a nearly identical message, though my experience was >> on the java.sun.com site. I installed the plugin twice and booted and >> restarted and NOTHING. I can't believe this!!! >Hmm, that sucks. Java

Re: Moz 0.97 (and 0.95) - Java support?

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Harris
On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:56:21 +0100, Holger Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Am 05.01.2002 21:38 schrieb Rob Williams: > >> Came here to post a nearly identical message, though my experience was >> on the java.sun.com site. I installed the plugin twice and booted and >> restarted and NOTHING. I

.97 2002010508 (win32) - A keeper!

2002-01-05 Thread Mark
This build really seems to be the best I've used so far, in every way. In fact, come on, . . . pop the champagne cork and call it 1.0. :) Mark -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread Blake Ross
> Water under the proverbial bridge. What's AOL I mean the Mozilla > community doing *now* to get Mozilla more than 0.75% market share? Already answered this; you chose to ignore it. Blake

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread JTK
Christopher Jahn wrote: > [snip] > > > > In my opinion, given a straight fight (which manifestly did > > NOT happen, see the US Supreme Court's "Findings of Fact" > > for details) IE4/5 would have won significant market share > > from Netscape. They would not have achieved total market > > dom

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread JTK
Christopher Jahn wrote: > [snip] > I am sure that there are, I just have never seen one. Every > single time someone pops into the Netscape Communicator or N6 > support group complaining about some major website that either > fails to display or to display properly, it turns out to have > been

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread barney
Christopher Jahn wrote: > And it came to pass that gavin long wrote: > >> Christopher Jahn wrote: >> >> >>> Every page that has failed to render properly in those >>> posts was created in FrontPage, without exception. >> >> >> Um, no? > > Um, yes. Um, no, I don't think so. In the NS6

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread Chris Hoess
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Thomas wrote: > > overflow ellipses (6.0), ...which are > undoubtedly useful. No offense, but was there too much rum in your fruitcake or something? I honestly don't see what purpose overflow ellipses serve, except perhaps to conceal a bug (or more ch

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread Christopher Jahn
And it came to pass that gavin long wrote: > Christopher Jahn wrote: > >> MS doesn't SELL their browser, they don't actually make >> a DIME off of it. The ONLY reason that IE has market >> dominance is because MicroSoft illegally used its monopoly >> power. > > > > replace "The ONLY reason

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread Christopher Jahn
And it came to pass that gavin long wrote: > Christopher Jahn wrote: > > >> Every page that has failed to render properly in those >> posts was created in FrontPage, without exception. > > > Um, no? Um, yes. > Microsoft has a monopoloy in several areas, but bad > HTML isn't one of them.

Moz 0.9.7 win and font sizes in

2002-01-05 Thread Daniel Kies
Hi all, Has anyone else noted this problem: the font size of the numbers in an ordered list does not change to reflect the font size of the list item text. Moz renders the size consistently as the browser default font size, although other browsers will render the numbers of the ordered list'

Re: Cache problem

2002-01-05 Thread WDA
daa wrote: > WDA wrote: > > >>There is some validity to the cache problem complaint. It seems, that >>when Mozilla crashes, it takes the cache with it. This is not a >>catastrophic problem, but an annoyance the web browser community would >>love to live without. >> >>I have a lot of confidenc

suggestion for mozilla

2002-01-05 Thread Jonathan Wilson
How about implementing a generic instant messaging plugin scheme, something that does what the AIM integration does in NS6 but in a way that would work for all IMs. It would be up to the person/company that wrote the IM client to write a plugin thats compatible of course. Also, there are severa

Re: DOM inspector?

2002-01-05 Thread Mike Gratton
Sören Kuklau wrote: > > For those who don't know what DOM is, the DOM inspector is useless. It's > rather a tool for html and javascript authors. And a damm fine one at that. The DOM Inspector, Venkman (the JS debugger) and "dump()" make Moz an insanely great web development platform (apolo

Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?

2002-01-05 Thread Gert Sidar
JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > RV wrote: > I would like your name and address so I or my legal counsel can tell you > to your face what happened to the last guy who tried to pull this sort > of defamation and libel bullshit. Haven't seen him around lately

Re: pages loaded only after multiple clicks

2002-01-05 Thread Mike Gratton
Thomas Ginko wrote: > > does anybody here's seen this: I have to click 5 to 8 times on a > link (javascript or plain html) before mozilla connects and the page > is loaded. Odd, I was getting that, but in a recent nightly (0.9.7+). Still, it's fixed in recent ones, and I don't think it was a

Re: Moz 0.97 (and 0.95) - Java support?

2002-01-05 Thread Mike Gratton
Rob Williams wrote: > Came here to post a nearly identical message, though my experience was > on the java.sun.com site. I installed the plugin twice and booted and > restarted and NOTHING. I can't believe this!!! Hmm, that sucks. Java support has been flakey for me in 0.9.7 on Windows (fine,

Re: IE ---> Mozilla

2002-01-05 Thread Robert_L
Albert wrote: > David Loszewski wrote: > >> Is there a way to import the IE favorites in Linux? They're all *.url >> files >> >> Dave > > Export the IE favorites I suppose. That'll put it in a *.htm file which I > don't know what you can do with from then on =\ Depends what browser you are u

Re: IE ---> Mozilla

2002-01-05 Thread Albert
David Loszewski wrote: > Is there a way to import the IE favorites in Linux? They're all *.url > files > > Dave Export the IE favorites I suppose. That'll put it in a *.htm file which I don't know what you can do with from then on =\

Re: Mozilla 0.9.7 rocks!!

2002-01-05 Thread Cagatay Kavukcuoglu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > JTK wrote: > >> Roope Lehmuslehto wrote: >> >>> WDA wrote: >>> >>> Working with Mozilla 0.9.7. Very fast and very nice. >>> However, Mail&News is very buggy, slow and lacks many features... >>> >> >> In fact what's really sad is that the bugginess far o

Re: Cache problem

2002-01-05 Thread daa
WDA wrote: > There is some validity to the cache problem complaint. It seems, that > when Mozilla crashes, it takes the cache with it. This is not a > catastrophic problem, but an annoyance the web browser community would > love to live without. > > I have a lot of confidence in the Mozilla bui

Re: gcc3.0 vs gcc2.95

2002-01-05 Thread Travis Crump
Christian Biesinger wrote: > Travis Crump wrote: > >> For some reason, only the gcc3.0 version of Mozilla works on my >> computer [...] I was just curious as to whether there are any issues >> that I should be aware of > > > > Last time I tried to compile Mozilla with GCC 3.0.1, none of my

Re: Lack of themes

2002-01-05 Thread Phil Anderton
Wabbit wrote: > those six skins say they are tested for 0.96, not 0.97. > > Wabbit > > P.S. And what happened to sky-pilot. That was the best damm skin > available, until somone started mucking around with the specs Not the specs - back in September certain short-sighted developers eff

Re: Lack of themes

2002-01-05 Thread Wabbit
Yup, I found another site that said they were tested with 0.97 also. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the download/install to work. I'll try again later. I still like sky-pilot the best, but it isn't available... Wabbit Dan Howard wrote: > Wabbit wrote: > >> those six skins say they are teste

Re: Mozilla skins - where to find?

2002-01-05 Thread Wabbit
the last time I tried that, switching back removed the theme but not the misalignement of icons, etc. Ended up reloading Mozilla. However, I found another site that says the blue and LCARS thremes will work with 0.97 although, I wasn't able to get them to download and install when I tried the

Re: Lack of themes

2002-01-05 Thread Dan Howard
Wabbit wrote: > those six skins say they are tested for 0.96, not 0.97. > Yes, but some or all work with 0.9.7. I have used Little Mozilla, Wood, and Star Trek with no problems and no incompatibility messages. I seem to keep coming back to Modern, though.

migrating Moz on Win --> Moz on Lin

2002-01-05 Thread Al Niven
what are the issues re retaining 1 bookmarks 2 emails contacts 3 mailboxes thx in advance

Re: Moz 0.97 (and 0.95) - Java support?

2002-01-05 Thread Holger Metzger
Am 05.01.2002 21:38 schrieb Rob Williams: > Came here to post a nearly identical message, though my experience was > on the java.sun.com site. I installed the plugin twice and booted and > restarted and NOTHING. I can't believe this!!! Guess I'm going back to > explorer for a while. Please email

IE ---> Mozilla

2002-01-05 Thread David Loszewski
Is there a way to import the IE favorites in Linux? They're all *.url files Dave

Re: Moz 0.97 (and 0.95) - Java support?

2002-01-05 Thread Rob Williams
Came here to post a nearly identical message, though my experience was on the java.sun.com site. I installed the plugin twice and booted and restarted and NOTHING. I can't believe this!!! Guess I'm going back to explorer for a while. Please email me if you get anything going. The Mozilla site is t

Re: DOM inspector?

2002-01-05 Thread Sören Kuklau
Document Object Model. http://www.w3.org/DOM/ For those who don't know what DOM is, the DOM inspector is useless. It's rather a tool for html and javascript authors. "Erik Harris" schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm looking through Mozilla's help (which see

Re: temes on-the-fly

2002-01-05 Thread Dan Howard
Mark wrote: > I noticed this cool feature too, unfortunately in my case (win32), the > "feature" > crashes Mozilla whenever I switch themes. I though this was the reason > the "on-the-fly" theme switching was disabled many moons ago. > > Mark > > > It has crashed mine on occasion, also.

DOM inspector?

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Harris
I'm looking through Mozilla's help (which seems pretty sparse) and mozilla.org, and I still don't really understand what DOM is. The release notes say that the purpose of the DOM inspector is to inspect a document's DOM, which seems to be a rather useless circular definition for those of us who d

Re: Mozilla skins - where to find?

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Harris
On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 11:11:59 -0700, Wabbit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Yes, but the xulplanet skins say 0.96 instead of 0.97, so I would >suspect they are not tested for 0.97. There can't be too much harm in trying them with 0.97, right? If they fail, switch back. Erik Harris

Re: Mozilla 0.97 - "Home" button?

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Harris
On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 06:17:25 -0500, JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Am I missing something? Is there some way to make the Home icon appear, or >> is this a known (or not yet known) bug in Mozilla? >Odd quirk there. Running 0.9.7 here and have always had a /home/ button. As I mentioned in my

Re: themes on-the-fly

2002-01-05 Thread gavin long
>>> I'm running build 2002010403 and I just stumbled across a cool bonus. >>> This build allows switching chromes without restarting Mozilla. >>> Thanks to whoever implemented this handy feature. I hope it stays in >>> future builds. >> >> I noticed this cool feature too, unfortunately in my

Re: Webpage not working correctly under NS6 (havn't tried NS4)

2002-01-05 Thread gavin long
Jonas Jørgensen wrote: > gavin long wrote: >> I can't test in any other browsers, but I suspect that this should >> also work in other recent browsers (since it's W3C standard DOM) > > It is not. innerHTML has never been part of any W3C recommendation. Doh!. Too early in the morning, obvious

Re: temes on-the-fly

2002-01-05 Thread WDA
Mark wrote: > Dan Howard wrote: > >> I'm running build 2002010403 and I just stumbled across a cool bonus. >> This build allows switching chromes without restarting Mozilla. >> Thanks to whoever implemented this handy feature. I hope it stays in >> future builds. > > > > I noticed this c

Re: temes on-the-fly

2002-01-05 Thread Mark
Dan Howard wrote: > I'm running build 2002010403 and I just stumbled across a cool bonus. > This build allows switching chromes without restarting Mozilla. Thanks > to whoever implemented this handy feature. I hope it stays in future > builds. I noticed this cool feature too, unfortunately

Re: themes on-the-fly

2002-01-05 Thread jesus X
Dan Howard wrote: > > I'm running build 2002010403 and I just stumbled across a cool bonus. > This build allows switching chromes without restarting Mozilla. Thanks > to whoever implemented this handy feature. I hope it stays in future > builds. Actually, this isn't new. Long, long ago it was

Form submissions failing in 0.9.7

2002-01-05 Thread cw
Hi there, Something a little odd here that I haven't seen anyone else mention. This has happened on two separate systems and goes as following: Install 1: Win98SE - installed from mozilla-win32-0.9.7-installer.exe Components installed: Navigator Debugger Inspector Quality Feedback Agent Install

Re: Mozilla skins - where to find?

2002-01-05 Thread Wabbit
Yes, but the xulplanet skins say 0.96 instead of 0.97, so I would suspect they are not tested for 0.97. What ever happened to sky-pilot? Wabbit Lucas MacBride wrote: > Erik Harris wrote: > >> Are there any good archives of Mozilla skins? skinz.org doesn't >> appear to >> have a section for

Re: Lack of themes

2002-01-05 Thread Wabbit
those six skins say they are tested for 0.96, not 0.97. Wabbit P.S. And what happened to sky-pilot. That was the best damm skin available, until somone started mucking around with the specs Dan & Marilyn Howard wrote: > 6 additional skins are available at: > http://www.xulplanet.com/dow

Re: chrome javascript tabs problem

2002-01-05 Thread Geraint Edwards
Thanks Jonas - bug is filed as bug no. 18357 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118357 Jonas Jørgensen wrote: > Geraint Edwards wrote: > >> In 0.9.7 in Linux, if you : > > > > Also happens on Win2000. > > >> 1. open a new browser session + type in a URL/select bookmark etc. >> 2

Meilleurs Voeux pour 2002 : année de mémoire, de mobilisation, d'action, de justice et de sérénité - Appel au soutien moral et financier

2002-01-05 Thread Habib HAIBI
Meilleurs Voeux pour 2002 : année de mémoire, de mobilisation, d'action, de justice et de sérénité - Appel au soutien moral et financier M. Habib HAIBI, 7, Aguesseau St. 69007 LYON - France Tél. 00 33 4 72 73 19 08 - Fax 00 33 4 78 61 39 27 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

Re: ---- Attachment Bug ???? ----

2002-01-05 Thread Parish
Yeh You-Ying wrote: > Hello, > > It seems a problem while using attachment function via MozillaMail for > long. I don't know how to describe correctly, so I put the saving > result in the Internet with eml file. This appears to related to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105825 Al

Cache problem

2002-01-05 Thread WDA
There is some validity to the cache problem complaint. It seems, that when Mozilla crashes, it takes the cache with it. This is not a catastrophic problem, but an annoyance the web browser community would love to live without. I have a lot of confidence in the Mozilla building team. I'm sur

themes on-the-fly

2002-01-05 Thread Dan Howard
I'm running build 2002010403 and I just stumbled across a cool bonus. This build allows switching chromes without restarting Mozilla. Thanks to whoever implemented this handy feature. I hope it stays in future builds. Dan

temes on-the-fly

2002-01-05 Thread Dan Howard
I'm running build 2002010403 and I just stumbled across a cool bonus. This build allows switching chromes without restarting Mozilla. Thanks to whoever implemented this handy feature. I hope it stays in future builds. Dan

Re: chrome javascript tabs problem

2002-01-05 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
Geraint Edwards wrote: > In 0.9.7 in Linux, if you : Also happens on Win2000. > 1. open a new browser session + type in a URL/select bookmark etc. > 2. press ctl-t + type in a URL/select bookmark etc. > 3. kill the tab with the 'x' Also happens if you close the tab by pressing Ctrl+W > 4.

Re: Webpage not working correctly under NS6 (havn't tried NS4)

2002-01-05 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
gavin long wrote: > A quick change to replace : > mytext.innerHTML="Home."; > with > document.getElementById("mytext").innerHTML="Home."; > in all the functions will make this work in NS6, mozilla, and IE5.5 > > I can't test in any other browsers, but I suspect that this should also > w

Re: Cache defect fixed?

2002-01-05 Thread RV
JTK wrote: But what about the > other folks that have been seeing this - is it fixed for you guys too > now? And who are those again? I don't recall anybody else complaining about that problem. I read CNN, NYTimes, MSNBC, ABCNEWS every single day, sometimes several times a day and I have neve

Re: Mozilla 0.97 - "Home" button?

2002-01-05 Thread RV
JS wrote: > Erik Harris wrote: > sn't appear in either case. >> >> Am I missing something? Is there some way to make the Home icon >> appear, or >> is this a known (or not yet known) bug in Mozilla? >> > Odd quirk there. Running 0.9.7 here and have always had a /home/ button. Click Edit >

Re: Address Lists?

2002-01-05 Thread WDA
Craig Tataryn wrote: > Do Address lists actually work in Mozilla? I keep trying to make a > list, drag contacts to it, and then I goto view the list and there are > no contacts. > > Gr > > Craig. > From time to time I've worked with the list feature. I was once successful in gett

Re: Find in this page.

2002-01-05 Thread Jason Bassford
> Is there any way of setting preferences for the "Find in this Page" > function? E.g. I always want to have "Wrap Around" checked. Is this I will answer my own question. Since nobody answered, and I couldn't find it in Bugzilla (although there actually was one for "Wrap Around" only, but w

Re: gcc3.0 vs gcc2.95

2002-01-05 Thread Christian Biesinger
Travis Crump wrote: > For some reason, only the gcc3.0 version of Mozilla works on my > computer [...] I was > just curious as to whether there are any issues that I should be aware > of Last time I tried to compile Mozilla with GCC 3.0.1, none of my plugins (Java and Flash) worked. Somebod

Re: Navigation Toolbar Appearance question

2002-01-05 Thread Ian Thomas
Bob Brown wrote: > I just switched from Netscape 4.7 to 6.2.1, and want to get the > Navigation Toolbar to show 'Pictures Only', not 'Pictures and Text'. Is > there any way to do this in 6.2.1? > > Thanks in advance. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No. (Well unless you count manually editing the XUL which

Re: Cache defect fixed?

2002-01-05 Thread Geoff
On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 08:51:11 +, JTK wrote: > Patrick Gallagher wrote: >> >> I've never had any problems at all with the cache - Moz has been >> showing me the correct versions of pages ever day for 2 years or so - >> with the exception of a few builds that wouldn't run properly or at >> all.

chrome javascript tabs problem

2002-01-05 Thread Geraint Edwards
In 0.9.7 in Linux, if you : 1. open a new browser session + type in a URL/select bookmark etc. 2. press ctl-t + type in a URL/select bookmark etc. 3. kill the tab with the 'x' 4. try to open mail from the chrome menu *nothing happens!* This common sequence seems to disrupt the javascript proces

Navigation Toolbar Appearance question

2002-01-05 Thread Bob Brown
I just switched from Netscape 4.7 to 6.2.1, and want to get the Navigation Toolbar to show 'Pictures Only', not 'Pictures and Text'. Is there any way to do this in 6.2.1? Thanks in advance. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

pages loaded only after multiple clicks

2002-01-05 Thread Thomas Ginko
Hi! does anybody here's seen this: I have to click 5 to 8 times on a link (javascript or plain html) before mozilla connects and the page is loaded. All previous clicks do nothing but a short flashing progress bar and "document loaded (0,3 sec)" is displayed at the status line at the bottom of th

Re: Mozilla 0.97 - "Home" button?

2002-01-05 Thread JS
Erik Harris wrote: > In the months I've been using Mozilla, it's been a slight nuisance to no > longer have the Home button on the toolbar, but I've gotten used to hitting > Alt-Home instead of clicking a button. > > However, with Moz 0.97 freshly installed, I'm looking through the > preferences

Re: My Netscape?

2002-01-05 Thread JS
Nigel L wrote: > Nigel commiserates: > JS wrote: > >> Does anyone have any problem getting their 'My Netscape' page to >> display properly. Is there a remedy? >> > Assuming you refer to Mozilla, I found that it had to do with "user > agent" settings and that if I got My Netscape to display p

Re: Webpage not working correctly under NS6 (havn't tried NS4)

2002-01-05 Thread Mark Slater
Y'know, that site looks deceptively like http://www.coolhomepages.com, doesn't it ;-) Mark Gillespie wrote: > My webpage works fine under IE4/5, but there is some simple javascript that > does not work (at all) under NS6.2 (havn't tried NS4.x, as I don't have it > loaded) > > http://homepage.n

Re: Address Lists?

2002-01-05 Thread dman84
Craig Tataryn wrote: > Do Address lists actually work in Mozilla? I keep trying to make a > list, drag contacts to it, and then I goto view the list and there are > no contacts. > > Gr > > Craig. > probably a bug that is part of the address-book change to outliner. See this page

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread gavin long
Christopher Jahn wrote: > MS doesn't SELL their browser, they don't actually make > a DIME off of it. The ONLY reason that IE has market dominance > is because MicroSoft illegally used its monopoly power. replace "The ONLY reason" with "One of the reasons". From a user perspective, later

Re: Microsoft Q & A

2002-01-05 Thread gavin long
Christopher Jahn wrote: > Every page that has failed to render properly in those posts was > created in FrontPage, without exception. Um, no? Microsoft has a monopoloy in several areas, but bad HTML isn't one of them. There are millions of people out there who can do it all on their own i

Re: Webpage not working correctly under NS6 (havn't tried NS4)

2002-01-05 Thread gavin long
Mark Gillespie wrote: > My webpage works fine under IE4/5, but there is some simple javascript that > does not work (at all) under NS6.2 (havn't tried NS4.x, as I don't have it > loaded) > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark.gillespie/ > > Basically, the 5 links in the blue bar at the top, shou

---- Attachment Bug ???? ----

2002-01-05 Thread Yeh You-Ying
Hello, It seems a problem while using attachment function via MozillaMail for long. I don't know how to describe correctly, so I put the saving result in the Internet with eml file. Please login first with name: youying passwd: 0815 1. The meesage I'd like to forward to others as following em

Re: awful oracle flash ad?

2002-01-05 Thread JTK
Try Proxomitron: http://proxomitron.org. It's like fricken armor plate between you and the deluge of annoying ads and crappola that is 99%+ of the internet. Don't even bother using the web without it, I say. Nigel L wrote: > > Nigel L commiserates: > David Croley wrote: > > > Is it just me? I

Re: Cache defect fixed?

2002-01-05 Thread JTK
Patrick Gallagher wrote: > > I've never had any problems at all with the cache - Moz has been showing > me the correct versions of pages ever day for 2 years or so - with the > exception of a few builds that wouldn't run properly or at all. Perhaps > your ISP corrected some sort of error in their

Re: inconsistent favicons

2002-01-05 Thread Zack
On 01/03/2002 10:31 PM, mike g wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded the nightly build(2002010303)under WinME. Shortcut > icons/favicons in the URL bar are not always appearing. When I first went > to my website www.wombatcarnival.com the default icon was there. I then > jumped to the concert schedul