Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-11-02 Thread Pratik
On 11/02/01 07:22 AM, Martin C. Messer wrote: > I know this has been asked before, but _is_ there a list of all the > keyboard shortcuts for the various Mozilla components? > none that I know of. sorry :-( Pratik.

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-11-02 Thread Martin C. Messer
Pratik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > On 11/01/01 10:37 AM, Martin C. Messer wrote: > > > David Hyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > > >>I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes. Here's a list: > >> >

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-11-01 Thread Pratik
On 11/01/01 10:37 AM, Martin C. Messer wrote: > David Hyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >>I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes. Here's a list: >> > > Quick question which I couldn't answer looking through the various > posts: while

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-11-01 Thread Martin C. Messer
David Hyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes. Here's a list: Quick question which I couldn't answer looking through the various posts: while using tabbed browsing, are their keyboard shortcuts for swith

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-29 Thread Neil
Dustin Ratliffe wrote: >Reload All Tabs >--- >I really have to stretch my imagination to find a scenario I would use this. > Bugzilla goes down from about 10:30 to 11:30 my local time. Any bugzilla links stay open in tabs until Bugzilla is available, then hey presto! OK, so it's a b

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-29 Thread Neil
Hall Stevenson wrote: >>You mouse over a tab in order to click it to move it to the front. For whatever >reason, you hesitate slightly. You click and Bang! - your tab has vanished, because >the popup X chose that exact moment to appear under your mouse. >> >Make the 'X' only visible when it's t

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-27 Thread Magnus W
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Ratliffe) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Reload All Tabs > --- > I really have to stretch my imagination to find a scenario I would use > this. Perhaps a web designer would want to repeatedly reload several > pages to test rendering r

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Gervase Markham
Peter Trudelle wrote: > I disagree that supporting things like one-button mice would make > Mozilla suck. That's not quite what I said. I said that if we catered to the lowest common denominator, Mozilla would suck - meaning that if we decide to have five different click-triggered actions (

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Peter Trudelle
I disagree that supporting things like one-button mice would make Mozilla suck. Don't all Macs still ship with a one-button mouse? Does Apple even make a multi-button mouse yet? How can we say we support a platform if using it *requires* users to purchase third-party hardware? I think the

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Dustin Ratliffe
Thank you for the tabs feature. I didn't know I needed it until I started using it. I use it all the time now. The background loading makes a dialup connection much more bearable - I can continue reading the current page while the secondary page(s) load - fantastic! My only request is that the ta

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Justin H.
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > Macs come with one-button mice. Mozilla is > > supposed to be cross-platform, correct? > > If we were to work to the lowest common denominator of all the platforms > we support, Mozilla would suck rather a lot. Even the Mac community > (with OS X) has realised that a

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Esben Mose Hansen
Garth Wallace wrote: > What's the solution for a *one*-button mouse? > Don't those people use modifier keys? Like shift-click... I seem to remember this from my brief acquintance with a Macintosh -- regards, Esben Mose Hansen www.worldonline.dk/~mesben (danish site)

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Patrick Gallagher
really, there's nothing wrong with 1 button mice (the context menus work just as well... considering on Windows there's frequently a delay for the menus to pop up, and on the Mac you have to hold the mouse button to get the context menu for a set # of seconds)... there's a new Mac mouse out th

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Gervase Markham
> Macs come with one-button mice. Mozilla is > supposed to be cross-platform, correct? If we were to work to the lowest common denominator of all the platforms we support, Mozilla would suck rather a lot. Even the Mac community (with OS X) has realised that a single button mouse is dumb, and 3

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread James Green
David Hyatt wrote: > Ok, I just landed code for middle-click closing the tab. I also landed > code for CTRL+W that will close the current tab. In just tried this, and it has a very undesirable side-effect: on Linux, middle-click pastes (and in Moz, that normally means load the page in the c

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Garth Wallace
Martin Poirier wrote: > > one button mouses are worthless IMHO... Macs come with one-button mice. Mozilla is supposed to be cross-platform, correct?

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Elik Eizenberg
David Hyatt wrote: > I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes. Here's a list: > > (1) The tabs now flex and shrink down as you add more tabs in order to > fit within the window. You should not really have any serious overflow > problems any longer with this solution. > (2)

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Pratik
On 10/25/01 05:22 PM, Aaron Andersen wrote: > David Hyatt wrote: > > >>(4) You can now drag a URL to a tab and have it load in that tab. >>Whether or not the tab comes to the front when you drop is based off >>the background loading pref (the same one used when you middle-click a >>link). >>

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Duane Clark
David Hyatt wrote: > Ok, I just landed code for middle-click closing the tab. I also landed > code for CTRL+W that will close the current tab. When you get back down > to one tab, hitting CTRL+W will close the window. > > When you go into tabbed mode, the menu item under file changes from >

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Gilles Durys
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:32:06 +0200, David Hyatt wrote: > Ok, I just landed code for middle-click closing the tab. I also landed > code for CTRL+W that will close the current tab. When you get back down > to one tab, hitting CTRL+W will close the window. > > When you go into tabbed mode, the me

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Rob Allen
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Trudelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I suspect removing the X may be premature, was it based on any >usability data, or just NG feedback & personal preference (both of >which are notoriously unreliable)? I think most users are conditioned >to look for an

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > Why would it change ?? It would only change from > > nothing to an 'x'. It either works or it doesn't work. I'm > > not suggesting a dual-function like you are when > > comparing to a search/stop button. > > You mouse over a tab in order to click it to move it to the > front. For whatever reas

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread David Hyatt
Ok, I just landed code for middle-click closing the tab. I also landed code for CTRL+W that will close the current tab. When you get back down to one tab, hitting CTRL+W will close the window. When you go into tabbed mode, the menu item under file changes from "Close" to "Close Tab", and a n

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Gilles Durys
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:51:28 +0200, David Hyatt wrote: > (2) The confusing close box on > the far right has been eliminated. Looking for ideas for a better > solution (perhaps an X on the tab only when it is the active tab). This is how Galeon does it. For having been using Galeon for a while, I

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-26 Thread Neil
David Hyatt wrote: > The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. Looking > for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only when it > is the active tab). How about a [v] menu which duplicates the context menu but opens on left-click for those with dysmouseia? I'

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread barney
daa wrote: > barney wrote: > >> Pratik wrote: >> >> >> (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. >> >> Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only >> >> when it is the active tab). >> > >> > >> > I like the MultiZilla way of middle clicking on th

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Martin Poirier
one button mouses are worthless IMHO... Garth Wallace wrote: > daa wrote: > >>barney wrote: >> >> >>>Pratik wrote: >>> >>> >(2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. >Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only >when it is the active

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Jay Garcia
On 10/25/2001 8:24 PM, Garth Wallace wrote: > daa wrote: > >>barney wrote: >> >> >>>Pratik wrote: >>> >>> >(2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. >Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only >when it is the active tab). >

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Gervase Markham
> Why would it change ?? It would only change from nothing to an > 'x'. It either works or it doesn't work. I'm not suggesting a > dual-function like you are when comparing to a search/stop > button. You mouse over a tab in order to click it to move it to the front. For whatever reason, you hesi

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Dylan Schiemann
--- Garth Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > daa wrote: > > > > barney wrote: > > > > > Pratik wrote: > > > > > > That's nice, but what if you've only got a > 2-button mouse? What's the > > > equivalent to middle click? > > buy a new mouse > > What's the solution for a *one*-button mouse?

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread DeMoN LaG
Garth Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 25 Oct 2001: >> clicking both buttons ( chord) > > What's the solution for a *one*-button mouse? Double clicking both buttons ;) -- ICQ: N/A (temporarily) AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Garth Wallace
daa wrote: > > barney wrote: > > > Pratik wrote: > > > > >> (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. > > >> Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only > > >> when it is the active tab). > > > > > > > > > I like the MultiZilla way of middle clic

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Duane Clark
Aaron Andersen wrote: > David Hyatt wrote: > > >>(4) You can now drag a URL to a tab and have it load in that tab. >>Whether or not the tab comes to the front when you drop is based off >>the background loading pref (the same one used when you middle-click a >>link). >>om) >> > > > What's

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread daa
barney wrote: > Pratik wrote: > > >> (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. > >> Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only > >> when it is the active tab). > > > > > > I like the MultiZilla way of middle clicking on the tab to close it. > > >

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread David Hyatt
Putting the X there in the first place was not based on any usability data. Given that the whole feature hasn't really been through any usability testing, all I really have to go on is feedback from the newsgroups. :) Another reason the X is confusing is that I want to support having the tab

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Aaron Andersen
David Hyatt wrote: > (4) You can now drag a URL to a tab and have it load in that tab. > Whether or not the tab comes to the front when you drop is based off > the background loading pref (the same one used when you middle-click a > link). > om) What's the name of that pref? I remember the

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Orrin Edenfield
David Hyatt wrote: > (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. I liked the close box at the end. When I'm looking at pictures, I can open them from thumbnails into different tabs, and then start at the end, and then close them all in sequence. It works great! Orrin

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread barney
Pratik wrote: >> (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. >> Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only >> when it is the active tab). > > > I like the MultiZilla way of middle clicking on the tab to close it. > > Pratik. > > That's nice

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
Screwtape wrote: > > David Hyatt schrieb: > >(2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. > >Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only > >when it is the active tab). > > FWIW, my favoured tab-closure method is to have Ctrl-W close the > active tab

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Pratik
On 10/25/01 12:25 PM, Ian Davey wrote: > Pratik wrote: > > >>>(2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. >>>Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only >>>when it is the active tab). >>> >> >> >>I like the MultiZilla way of middle clicking on t

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Garth Wallace
Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > How about a 'mouseover' type effect in that the 'X' only > > > appears when you move the mouse over the tab ?? > > > Maybe add a short delay before it appears so that it > > > doesn't appear when you're simply trying to select that > > > tab. > > > > Oh no! You shoul

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > How about a 'mouseover' type effect in that the 'X' only > > appears when you move the mouse over the tab ?? > > Maybe add a short delay before it appears so that it > > doesn't appear when you're simply trying to select that > > tab. > > Oh no! You shouldn't do this for the same reason you >

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Ian Davey
Pratik wrote: >> (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. >> Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only >> when it is the active tab). > > > > I like the MultiZilla way of middle clicking on the tab to close it. That'd be no good on Linux

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Gervase Markham
> How about a 'mouseover' type effect in that the 'X' only > appears when you move the mouse over the tab ?? Maybe add a > short delay before it appears so that it doesn't appear when > you're simply trying to select that tab. Oh no! You shouldn't do this for the same reason you shouldn't have a

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Tim Wunder
David Hyatt wrote: > I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes. Here's a list: > > (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. > Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only > when it is the active tab). Never even noticed

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Pratik
> (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. > Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only > when it is the active tab). I like the MultiZilla way of middle clicking on the tab to close it. Pratik.

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Screwtape
David Hyatt schrieb: >(2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated. >Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only >when it is the active tab). FWIW, my favoured tab-closure method is to have Ctrl-W close the active tab. If there are no inactive tabs,

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > (2) The confusing close box on the far right has been > > eliminated. Looking for ideas for a better solution > > (perhaps an X on the tab only when it is the active tab). > Putting an X in the active tab will make it a little too > "busy". How about a 'mouseover' type effect in that the '

Re: Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread Jay Garcia
On 10/25/2001 4:51 AM, David Hyatt wrote: > I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes. Here's a list: > > (1) The tabs now flex and shrink down as you add more tabs in order to > fit within the window. You should not really have any serious overflow > problems any longer wit

Tab Browsing Update

2001-10-25 Thread David Hyatt
I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes. Here's a list: (1) The tabs now flex and shrink down as you add more tabs in order to fit within the window. You should not really have any serious overflow problems any longer with this solution. (2) The confusing close box on the f