Re: Password Protected Profiles [...]

2001-06-04 Thread Robert Relyea
Jason Bassford wrote: Isn't have SOME security (even if it's not all that serious) better than having NO security? Again, I'm not sure why there's an argument against this on a theoretical level. No SOME security is WORSE than NO security? Why? Because most users do not understand

Re: Password Protected Profiles

2001-06-01 Thread Jason Bassford
have icons set up on individual users desktops in my house with -P switches to run their profile. Should password protected profiles be implemented in Mozilla, I wouldn't actually use them. (There are much better ways of implementing security, of which I am aware.) Which is, perhaps, an ironic

Re: Password Protected Profiles

2001-06-01 Thread nospam
Jason Bassford wrote: However. I still argue for having them in place because I can easily imagine situations where it COULD help somebody with what they want. Just because *I* wouldn't use the feature is, AFAIK, not a very good reason to say that it shouldn't be made part of the

Re: Password Protected Profiles

2001-06-01 Thread Chris Hill
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:09:51 +0100, nospam@nospam wrote: When my wife comes into the room and takes over the browser and wants her own settings I have to lose my login sesion in the OS so she can switch browser profiles, bit of an overkill dont you think? You should try Windows XP. One of

Re: Password Protected Profiles

2001-05-30 Thread Peter Lairo
Gervase Markham wrote: There is a difference between the sort of security which keeps users from snooping on one anothers' files (which has to be implemented at OS level, or it won't work) and internal application security. So why does the PSM prevent others from reading my NEW mail, but they

Re: Password Protected Profiles

2001-05-30 Thread Jason Bassford
That's complete nonsense. PSM's primary function is SSL (https etc.) and S/MIME. Password encryption is only a minor function that were added only recently. (Does 4.x even have it?) Then - why was password encryption added? Again, the argument doesn't work. It makes no sense to argue

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-29 Thread Gervase Markham
All the messages in this thread make one thing clear: (1) the programmers are mostly against it. (2) The user are mostly for it. 1) is because when it becomes apparent that it's a terribly-insecure hacky feature, it's the programmers who take the flak. You can't conclude 2), because users

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-29 Thread Peter Lairo
Gervase Markham wrote: All the messages in this thread make one thing clear: (1) the programmers are mostly against it. (2) The user are mostly for it. 1) is because when it becomes apparent that it's a terribly-insecure hacky feature, it's the programmers who take the flak. see my

Re: Password Protected Profiles

2001-05-29 Thread Peter Lairo
Gervase Markham wrote: Are you volunteering to tell us all what to do? :-) If you'll listen ;) No. Will you now stop telling us all what to do? :-) NO, that is my job as a bug reporter ;) There is a difference between the sort of security which keeps users from snooping on one

Re: Password Protected Profiles [...]

2001-05-17 Thread ravi narayan
H.H.Cahit Oz wrote: Jeandré wrote: User Profiles should be able to be protected with passwords. If you agree with the above statement, please vote for this BUG to be fixed here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 I think to vote for this bug is stupid... If you are

Re: Password Protected Profiles [...]

2001-05-17 Thread Pål Are Nordal
ravi narayan wrote: and i think its silly to call it stupid. it may not be worth the time of the mozilla development team, but a good argument can be made for the validity of the request. such protection as requested in the bug might indeed be an OS function, but since the most common OS

Re: Password Protected Profiles [...]

2001-05-17 Thread Jason Bassford
and i think its silly to call it stupid. it may not be worth the provide but which mozilla works around to provide. if you wish to use mozilla, use NT or Linux is a meagre response, imho. I agree with you on this one. It seems slightly hypocritical and/or confused to me that the Mozilla

Re: Password Protected Profiles [...]

2001-05-17 Thread John Gardiner Myers
The feature being requested is not a security measure, it is security snake oil. This is precisely the sort of misfeature that, when broken, causes a lot of bad press for a product. S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-15 Thread Ben Bucksch
Martijn Kluijtmans wrote: I just vote for it. Think of the following situation: In a family, every member wants to use Mozilla's, mail facilities - Father gets confidential information from clients - Daughter gets love letters by her friend - Mother enz. Yes, we had this discussion

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-15 Thread barney
Martijn Kluijtmans wrote: And of course they don't want anybody to read their e-mail Seems to me that when encryption is turned on in password prefs, a password is required before you can access mail. Or doesn't it work like this any more?

Re: Password Protected Profiles [...]

2001-05-15 Thread H.H.Cahit Oz
Jeandré wrote: User Profiles should be able to be protected with passwords. If you agree with the above statement, please vote for this BUG to be fixed here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 [...] Its more a candidate for a distributor to implement it doesn't fit

Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-14 Thread Peter Lairo
User Profiles should be able to be protected with passwords. If you agree with the above statement, please vote for this BUG to be fixed here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 Even better, if you have the knowledge (unfortunately, I can't program) and interest, maybe you could

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-14 Thread Ben Bucksch
Peter Lairo wrote: User Profiles should be able to be protected with passwords. If you agree with the above statement, please vote for this BUG to be fixed here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 Where do I vote for this bug getting WONTFIX? :-)

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-14 Thread Francois Cartegnie
Ben Bucksch wrote: Peter Lairo wrote: User Profiles should be able to be protected with passwords. If you agree with the above statement, please vote for this BUG to be fixed here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 Where do I vote for this bug getting WONTFIX? :-)

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2001-05-14 Thread Martijn Kluijtmans
I just vote for it. Think of the following situation: In a family, every member wants to use Mozilla's, mail facilities - Father gets confidential information from clients - Daughter gets love letters by her friend - Mother enz. And of course they don't want anybody to read their e-mail, so

Re: Password Protected Profiles [...]

2001-05-14 Thread Jeandré
User Profiles should be able to be protected with passwords. If you agree with the above statement, please vote for this BUG to be fixed here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 [...] Its more a candidate for a distributor to implement it doesn't fit with Mozilla's general

Re: Password Protected Profiles - VOTE HERE !!! You know you want this feature!

2000-12-21 Thread Ben Bucksch
Peter Lairo wrote: Ben Bucksch wrote: I think, many of those "brothers" are able to get beyond such a simple "security" protection. You're wrong. You obviously have little contact with "regular" people. Got me. I was born that smart, so I never went to school. win2k is too expensive