[MP3 ENCODER] Some more graphical comparisons: vbr_mt VS vbr_rh

2000-07-17 Thread Roel VdB
Hello , Sound Clip: (1900kb) http://users.belgacom.net/gc247244/extra/velvet.zip What I did to find apparent differences: I encoded 1 file 320S and decoded (to get delays etc right) Then I did an inverted mix paste of the V1 vbr_rh and V1 vbr_mt, so that the differences would be hig

Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] A clip that chokes vbr_mt, but not vbr_rh -> More Info ...

2000-07-17 Thread Roel VdB
Hello Mark, I put it (temp) on my website: (1.900kbyte) http://users.belgacom.net/gc247244/extra/velvet.zip Ok, I found some _visual_ confirmation of the noise component I keep hearing in the R channel. This is there with vbr_mt, but not with vbr_rh. I used 385: "lame -V1 -mj -h -q1" I used 38

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] A few questions about LAME (such as -q1)

2000-07-17 Thread Mark Taylor
> From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:18:06 +0200 > > What is this -q1 parameter i've seen here on the list ? > is it for VBR,ABR, or CBR ? > is there -qx or only q1, tell me about it > > are there any other undocumented parameters ? > if so, what do they do ? > > And

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison

2000-07-17 Thread Ross Levis
Title: RE: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison Naoki Shibata wrote: >   The amount of CPU load highly depends on performance of FPU.  Since > K6's FPU performance is much worse than Pentium II's, load on > K6 is much higher than on Pentium II. Yes I realise that but I didn't think it was 5

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Some observations of vbrtest problem

2000-07-17 Thread Naoki Shibata
OK. I'll have some more experiments about this. Mark> The reason you cannot use maxnoise is that the output of a lapped Mark> transform (like the MDCT) with very short transform lenghts (576 and Mark> 192 in our case), individual frequency information CANNOT BE TRUSTED! Mark> You have to do so

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison

2000-07-17 Thread Naoki Shibata
Ross> Your joking aren't you? It uses about 5 times more CPU than in_mp3. On the Ross> old machine I use it on (K6-200), in_mpg123 uses about 50% of CPU where Ross> in_mp3 is about 10%. The advantage is slightly better sound quality. The amount of CPU load highly depends on performance of F

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison

2000-07-17 Thread Ross Levis
Title: RE: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison Cavallo de Cavallis wrote: > what make u choose the in_mpg123 solution ? Steve Lhomme wrote: > The bug in Winamp and I also figured out it is a bit faster > (less CPU use). Your joking aren't you?  It uses about 5 times more CPU than in_mp3.

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison

2000-07-17 Thread Steve Lhomme
The bug in Winamp and I also figured out it is a bit faster (less CPU use). I couldn't really hear the difference anyway... - Original Message - From: "Cavallo de Cavallis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 deco

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] PSYCHO-ACOUSTICS

2000-07-17 Thread Mark Taylor
> > Hi All- > > I've been playing around with the latest version of GoGo-no-Coda. In the > setup portion of the program the user can disable psycho-acoustics. The > program says that when encoding at < 128 kbs, quality of encoding is > improved with psycho-acoustics enabled. The implication

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Some observations of vbrtest problem

2000-07-17 Thread Mark Taylor
> > I think it is certain that this problem is caused by noises > concentrated on pure tones. > A noise on a single MDCT coefficient increases as it's > amplitude increases. This is because quantized values are > actually values powered by 3/4. > > According to the theory of psychoacoustic, i

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison

2000-07-17 Thread Cavallo de Cavallis
> Are you sure of that ? Because I use Winamp but with the in_mpg123 output instead > of the included MP3 decoder (which is also faster). in_mpg123 is a Winamp port > of MPG123 and it works fine with the VBR+CRC MP3 I encode. > what make u choose the in_mpg123 solution ? Cavallo de Cavall

[MP3 ENCODER] PSYCHO-ACOUSTICS

2000-07-17 Thread Richard Bauer
Hi All- I've been playing around with the latest version of GoGo-no-Coda. In the setup portion of the program the user can disable psycho-acoustics. The program says that when encoding at < 128 kbs, quality of encoding is improved with psycho-acoustics enabled. The implication given is that en

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison

2000-07-17 Thread Mark Taylor
> > > In http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~djmrob/mp3decoders/index.html > there's a comparison of mp3 decoders. Lame is one of the three that passed > the test (the other two are Winamp 2.22 and Ultra Player). But mpg123 is > not tested. What about it? Does anyone know any decoding problem w

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Great mp3 decoder test site (check lame results)

2000-07-17 Thread David Balazic
But 32 kbps should be enough fot a simple 1kHz signal , or ? Mark Taylor wrote: > > > > > They discovered a possible bug in lame VBR code, but I couldn't > > find details. > > On their Least Significant Bit test > > (http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~djmrob/mp3decoders/lsb.html) > > they say : > >

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Great mp3 decoder test site (check lame results)

2000-07-17 Thread Mark Taylor
> > They discovered a possible bug in lame VBR code, but I couldn't > find details. > On their Least Significant Bit test > (http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~djmrob/mp3decoders/lsb.html) > they say : > > CEP and lame VBR do not ENCODE the LSB signal correctly > > ( CEP is CoolEdit mp3 plugin ) >

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Great mp3 decoder test site (check lame results)

2000-07-17 Thread David Balazic
They discovered a possible bug in lame VBR code, but I couldn't find details. On their Least Significant Bit test (http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~djmrob/mp3decoders/lsb.html) they say : CEP and lame VBR do not ENCODE the LSB signal correctly ( CEP is CoolEdit mp3 plugin ) They used lame 3.81bet

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] MP3 decoder comparison

2000-07-17 Thread mailing-steve
>> In http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~djmrob/mp3decoders/index.html >>there's a comparison of mp3 decoders. Lame is one of the three that >passed >>the test (the other two are Winamp 2.22 and Ultra Player). But mpg123 >is >>not tested. What about it? Does anyone know any decoding problem with