[Mpls] Cherryhomes critiques election defeat

2001-11-09 Thread List Manager
This is a long link that may break in your email reader - if so, go to channel4000.com and search for Cherryhomes.   http://www.channel4000.com/news/stories/news-106433520011108-171112.html   David Brauer List manager

Re: [Mpls] Painting the Town (in concentric circles of) Red

2001-11-09 Thread Michael Atherton
Chris Steller wrote: > Downtown Target Report, Month 2: > > But the downtown location still puts it up a notch over other Targets as a > family cultural event. So does it being a family cultural event make it worth all of the millions of dollars in subsidies? If you think so then we might as we

Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis Snow Plowing

2001-11-09 Thread Becker
The other couple of problems with changing the snow plowing is:   1) you already have 380,000 people trained to dance in a certain way when it snows.  Any changes means a whole bunch of people will be getting very stiff fines (+$100) because you changed the system on them.  It would be ugly,

[Mpls] Count Correction DFL/Green/Independent

2001-11-09 Thread Brenda Van Vugt
Walt Cygnan wrote: "R.T. earned my vote. How anyone can question his DFL-ness is beyond me. He is an outstanding example of how someone can have his own principles and still be a big part of a larger community of values." Okay, would someone please explain to me why I and a whole lot of other pe

Re: [Mpls] Cherryhomes critiques election defeat

2001-11-09 Thread Rosalind Nelson
She says it's because of personal attacks and rumors. Her husband (who posted on the list recently) is raising the possibility of poll irregularities. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/816991.html I'm struck by how no one is saying, "Oops, maybe we should have done things a little dif

Re: [Mpls] Cherryhomes critiques election defeat

2001-11-09 Thread Eva Young
At 08:23 AM 11/9/01 -0600, Rosalind Nelson wrote: >She says it's because of personal attacks and rumors. >Her husband (who posted on the list recently) is raising >the possibility of poll irregularities. > >http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/816991.html > >I'm struck by how no one is sayi

Re: [Mpls] Cherryhomes critiques election defeat

2001-11-09 Thread KHarley471
I don't like whisper campaigns, either. But I think for Jackie Cherryhomes to bring that up now does more harm than good. Clarence Hightower remarked in Doug Grow's column about what to say to young African-Americans about Sharon's defeat. I am concerned that young people are being taught that

[Mpls] re: Painting the Town (in concentric circles of) Red

2001-11-09 Thread Brett M Stephan
Please forgive a new subscriber's naivete, but I was hoping a veteran or two of this list -- or perhaps the list moderator himself -- might clarify how such quasi advertisements as cited below work into the fabric of this list: In this case, the meditations of a Minneapolis man on the "cultural"

Re: [Mpls] Cherryhomes critiques election defeat

2001-11-09 Thread wizardmarks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Clarence Hightower remarked in Doug Grow's column about what to say to young >African-Americans about Sharon's defeat. I am concerned that young people are being >taught that democracy is a zero-sum game, in which a defeat for the mayor is a defeat >for them! "We

Re: [Mpls] re: Painting the Town (in concentric circles of) Red

2001-11-09 Thread List Manager
Brett Stephan asked for a List Manager opinion, so here it is: Brett wrote: > Making public the experience of deriving > pleasure and entertainment from shopping by broadcasting one's own > privilege to a list of hundreds, many of whom surely end each month > deciding whether to buy groceries or

Re: [Mpls] re: Painting the Town (in concentric circles of) Red

2001-11-09 Thread Brett M Stephan
While I do believe that I was countering the post's message in a critical manner, I realize that I did inadvertantly express a hope that such posts as the one to which I responded should cease. In expressing my view of this issue, I may have consequently asked another view to go away, which certai

Re: [Mpls] re: Painting the Town (in concentric circles of) Red

2001-11-09 Thread Nancy Russell
Okay, Brett, I think I'm seeing Chris's satire regarding Target Yeah, here's to our new symbol of high culture; I spose it hopes a little class will rub off on it by virtue of its location--I hope none of its class rubs off on its neighbors. And right after I was grousing about Target an

[Mpls] Housing Code: No. 1

2001-11-09 Thread Gregory Luce
I thought it would be useful to bring some real context to the debate about the housing code and RT Rybak's and others' issues about "smart codes" (something I support so long as it does not ultimately jeopardize tenant safety). So, occasionally I'll post to this list the status of a property

[Mpls] Minnesota, Hats off to thee!

2001-11-09 Thread GARY SCHIFF
Ward 9 resident DeWayne Townsend asks: >Fram Fram St.O >So where did the rest get their education? I'm a proud Gopher! (and I think...the only one on the new council?) Rah! Rah! Rah! for Ski-U-Mah! Gary Schiff Corcoran Neighborhood www.garyschiff.com ___

[Mpls] re: Stonewall Endorsements and other comments (long)

2001-11-09 Thread Stonewall DFL
Hello list members: As Communications Director of Stonewall DFL it is my duty to point out that Mr. Lee Schneider is not authorized to speak on behalf of, or appear to speak on behalf of, our group and its members. Mr. Schneider's comments are his own opinions and perceptions. Mr. Schneider has

Re: [Mpls] Minnesota, Hats off to thee!

2001-11-09 Thread David Brauer
on 11/9/01 12:39 PM, GARY SCHIFF at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ward 9 resident DeWayne Townsend asks: > >> Fram Fram St.O >> So where did the rest get their education? > > I'm a proud Gopher! (and I think...the only one on the new council?) > > Rah! Rah! Rah! for Ski-U-Mah! > > Gary Schiff T

Re: [Mpls] Count Correction DFL/Green/Independent

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Knapp
--- Brenda Van Vugt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believed we needed to have a new direction in the mayor's office > and felt RT was the best choice based on his affirmation of core > DFL values and his record of success in other ventures. What are those "core DFL values"? Curious, Mark Kna

[Mpls] Harmon Place Historic District

2001-11-09 Thread Richard K. Anderson
Historic preservation took a big step forward in the Loring Park neighborhood today with the City Council's decision to approve the Harmon Place Automobile District! The vote was split into two parts with a 12 to 0 vote for the "Fawkes Block" and 10 to 2 for the rest of the district. The district

Re: [Mpls] Painting the Town (in concentric circles of) Red

2001-11-09 Thread Scott McGerik
Chris Steller wrote: > It really hits you on the second visit: it's just a Target. That was my thought when I visited on Sunday, 4 November: it's just a Target. I enjoy shopping at Target when I have a shopping list, but without a reason to be there, other than to investigate the new store, it w

[Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Clark C. Griffith
I am astounded that the loss of the Twins ranks so low as to warrant almost no comment on this list. Clark Griffith, from the 7th Ward of a former major league community. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post message

[Mpls] City Council OKs Guthrie Demolition

2001-11-09 Thread Jim Berg
A sad day in Minneapolis's cultural history. http://startribune.com/stories/1555/817977.html Jim Berg Ward 9, Corcoran __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Iss

Re: [Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Robert Schmid
> I am astounded that the loss of the Twins ranks so low as to warrant > almost no comment on this list. > Clark Griffith, from the 7th Ward of a former major league community. You're right. It's not important. It's "importance" is all media hype. The claim that stadiums and teams provide econo

Re: [Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread David Brauer
Clark asked for reasons why no Twins talk lately. I think people fall into 3 groups: 1. Don't care and never did. 2. Care and hate subsidy and don't need to say it again. 3. Care and love baseball but resigned that in this day and age - not to mention this state and culture - a taxpayer-financed

Re: [Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread robinson . cook
Yo the entire Twin Cities metropolitain community has resoundingly said that we do not want to subsidize a baseball stadium. I am a stadium supporter myself, but hey the issue has been defeated in every possible way for public funding so the owners need to move on and explore private means. I men

RE: [Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Anderson, Bruce
I absolutely love baseball. I love the game, the history, the artistry, the beauty, the strategy, the team work. It is, IMHO, the greatest spectator sport (and the second greatest to play, behind water polo). I enjoy baseball when the Twins are winning, as they have this season. I enjoy baseba

Re: [Mpls] School Funding

2001-11-09 Thread j harmon
Wiley questions: And if you don't think money would help, why is it that rich people send their kids to private schools which cost a bundle and have very small class sizes? I would think that money's not an issue for them, and higher income people can likely afford both the tax increases and the

Re: [Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Conor Donnelly
I will again cast my vote for the Northern League/Parade Stadium site if the Twins are evaporated, for these reasons. 1) It's already there. 2) The city owns it. Any investment required benefits our park board, our city, us. 3) Great view of downtown, walking distance to many of the cities cultu

[Mpls] twins

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Wilde
" am astounded that the loss of the Twins ranks so low as to warrant almost no comment on this list. Clark Griffith, from the 7th Ward of a former major league community." Here's my comment: i hope they leave, will be glad when they leave, will probably scream and applaud more than i ever did f

Re: [Mpls] School Funding

2001-11-09 Thread KarenCollier
In a message dated 11/9/01 12:52:21 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blaming teachers or blaming parents is easy, but the truth of the matter is, we need more money to have smaller class sizes and more specialized help for kids who need it.   Correct me, please, if I'm wrong,

[Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Terrell Brown
> I am astounded that the loss of the Twins ranks so low as to warrant > almost no comment on this list. > Clark Griffith, from the 7th Ward of a former major league community. I think most feel that the decision has been made and are moving on. Ten or so of us talked a bit about it this morning

Re: [Mpls] City Council OKs Guthrie Demolition

2001-11-09 Thread j harmon
What can we expect from a city that views baseball and a Target stores as cultural entertainment? This entire discussion makes my skin crawl, although it might be allergies... JHarmon Cleveland _ Get your FREE download of MSN Expl

[Mpls] Straw Poll, Please

2001-11-09 Thread ABerget
Could we have a straw poll of council members-elect and mayor-elect to learn if they will commute the Guthrie's death sentence? Ann Berget Kingfield 10-10

[Mpls] Re: Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Roxana Orrell
Yup, that's right. Where do the Twins rate in the scale of Minneapolis issues, among affordable housing, the shape of city hall and city policy to come, civil rights, crime, education, coping with the disturbing government policies and actions right here in Mpls after 9/11, NRP, etc.? So low, th

[Mpls] Towing and snowplowing

2001-11-09 Thread Emilie Quast
I haven't been around long enough to know if this issue has been done to death on this list. I've lived in D.C. long enough to see really aggressive towing in action. The trucks literally line up on side streets, waiting for the magic moment (I think it's 3 PM) for No Rush Hour parking to go int

[Mpls] Community info mtgs on Northway Plan this week

2001-11-09 Thread Sean Gosiewski
Invitation to Information Meetings on the Northway Plan for Poverty Reduction For more information call Angela Dawson at 612-529-8828 or 612-521-2986, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Minneapolis residents and organizations serving the North Minneapolis community are invi

[Mpls] Re: Twins

2001-11-09 Thread B Nelson
Put me down as one who is grieving the loss of the Twins and didn't really want to talk about it. I don't think the Twins stood a chance as long as Selig is commissioner and stands to profit from contraction. Whoever thought up that strategy was diabolical -- all the owners stand to benefit and t

Re: [Mpls] City Council OKs Guthrie Demolition

2001-11-09 Thread Valdis2001
In light of the election results, I hope that the incumbents take a good hard look at what they are writing on their own grave stones. "here lies the wonderful public servant who on their way out allowed the first stone to be cast in the crusade to kill the arts." It is a shame to see how qui

Re: [Mpls] City Council OKs Guthrie Demolition

2001-11-09 Thread richard carney
j harmon wrote: > What can we expect from a city that views baseball and a Target stores as > cultural entertainment? This entire discussion makes my skin crawl, although > it might be allergies... Now, how much public money went into the Orpheum, how about the State Theater? Minneapolis paid $4

Re: [Mpls] twins

2001-11-09 Thread Michael Libby
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 09 November 2001 03:42 pm, Mark Wilde wrote: > i heard paul wellstone on the radio talking about > busting up there anti-competitive monopoly, and i hope > something comes of it. Personally I hope the senator does something more worthwhile

Re: [Mpls] Housing Code: No. 1

2001-11-09 Thread Craig Miller
Kudos Mr. Luce for bringing this to the forum! He has caught the spark in the ether. All this work and the extraordinary cost generates from the behavior of a tenant. Not the landlord. Because this citizen/tenant routinely broke the law, the house was condemned! We the taxpayers killed the ho

RE: [Mpls] twins, culture, schools

2001-11-09 Thread Walt Cygan
Twins: I love baseball. I grew up watching day baseball at Wrigley Field in Chicago. (They didn't have lights because when they were in the process of buying them, WWII broke out and they gave them to the Navy so shipyards could work all night.) But I'd rather roast in the fires of eternal damnati

Re: [Mpls] School Funding

2001-11-09 Thread Gypsycurse7
In a message dated 11/9/2001 12:52:24 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ...According to the Strib this morning, almost half our > schools are on "probation" for low scores, correlating highly with > poverty neighborhoods. Even our best schools' scores on tests [which > a

[Mpls] The Twins

2001-11-09 Thread MNMollyS
OK, this may be my most unpopular post ever since I'm going to weigh in as a former CHEESEHEAD. So, as someone who comes from the home state of the great community-owned Green Bay Packers, here are my thoughts: If a community subsidizes a team by giving it tax breaks and building it a stadium, then

Re: [Mpls] The Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Don Jorovsky
I agree with all the posts today opposing the use of our tax money to subsidize billionaires like Carl. And remember, the legislature has made it perfectly clear in the past they're not going to do that, and that's even more true today, after funds have been cut for many core programs that people

Re: [Mpls] Towing and snowplowing

2001-11-09 Thread HEisenbeis
Give me a break. You're actually arguing for MORE agressive towing? What, do you own a towing concession with a city contract? Sheesh. Just this week, the tow trucks were fulfilling your wet dream--lined up and towing my poor daysleeper neighbors in preparation for leaf removal, to the tune of abou

Re: [Mpls] Re: Twins

2001-11-09 Thread KarenCollier
In a message dated 11/9/01 4:53:21 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To you naysayers:  Whether you think they and/or the sport, its owners, agenda and etc. are elitist, or not, the Twins contribute several millions to the city and locality's economy, hundreds of jobs, philanthr

[Mpls] What would you change in the Mpls Election process?

2001-11-09 Thread Walt Cygan
Now that the election cycle is over, if you had the power to change one thing about the Minneapolis election process, what would it be? I'd get rid of the party endorsement process. And while I was at it I'd stop all other organizations and news outlets from making endorsements. It seems like end

Re: [Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Dean Lindberg
Twins thoughts: Almost all of the comments I have heard from media have been sour grape complaints about the lack of interest in sinking public funds into saving the Twins or building a new stadium. I'm sure there may be a day when the Twins are gone and Dark Star and his peers can endlessly gri

Re: [Mpls] What would you change in the Mpls Election process?

2001-11-09 Thread Don Jorovsky
> I'd get rid of the party endorsement process. And while I was at it I'd > stop all other organizations and news outlets from making endorsements. > Walt Cygan > 12th Ward I'd repeal the First Amendment to the US Constitution. After all, we don't need that tiresome, pesky old freedom of speech

Re: [Mpls] Re: Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Nancy Russell
I think it would be lovely if we could turn those Twins fans into orchestra fans when the Twins leave.. wow.       - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Re: Twins  In a mess

Re: [Mpls] School Funding

2001-11-09 Thread Nancy Russell
    Wait a minute.  Money does matter.  I have a brilliant friend who just finished her student teaching at South last year, wanted nothing more than to teach at this school, and was a very good bet to be hired.  Until money for schools suddenly was not there. (She's now making more money in rural 

Re: [Mpls] Huge Victory For The Sierra Club!

2001-11-09 Thread Eric Fyksen
It would appear that having high standards for candidates is a winning strategy!! Stonewall could take a lesson. Eric Fyksen 8th Ward --- ken bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MEDIA RELEASE > For Immediate Release > > Novembe

Re: [Mpls] Council President

2001-11-09 Thread Eric Fyksen
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now that the election is over the question that is > in my mind is, who will be > Council President? Someone with experience on the > council is certainly > preferred, but is not a requirement. It is my > understanding that the > President has much more then th

Re: [Mpls] re: Painting the Town (in concentric circles of) Red

2001-11-09 Thread DeWayne Townsend
I think it is a cool post. Very Minneapolis and very personal with even a hint of advice. I would encourage this type of post, not discourage it. It will probably be a long time before I get into the downtown Target store, I probably should go to the Mall of America first, so hearing a little b

[Mpls] Twins

2001-11-09 Thread Vincent Thomas
Dear Fellow List Members: I write to respond to Clark Griffith's post from earlier this week, in which he stated that "I am astounded that the loss of the Twins ranks so low as to warrant almost no comment on this list. " Clark, there would have been a comment from me right away, but for t

[Mpls] A different perspective, the Twins/Ballpark Debate

2001-11-09 Thread Mark J. Moller
A different perspective, the Twins/Ballpark Debate And the rookie poster wades in Having reviewed the postings on the Twins/Ballparks for Billionaires debate, I was disappointed by the tenor of the postings in opposition to the Twins/ballpark. I found many of the postings self-righteous, mor

[Mpls] School funding & other issues

2001-11-09 Thread kathy kosnoff
Oh, sweet irony--NOW we have substantive exchange from diverse sources on Mpls School board issues. I was not a winner, but my interest in the issues I raised has not diminished and I am happy to see them re-raised here. Yes,Karen Collier, we did approve levies to reduce class size, but many,

[Mpls] Leader in Movement for Reparations to speak in Minneapolis

2001-11-09 Thread David Strand
I thought many may want to take note of this event as reparations or a resolution supporting the federal government exploring reparations (HR 40) was an issue that many candidates were questioned about in this years race for city offices. Chicago Alderperson Dorothy Tillman who was instrumental i

RE: [Mpls] A different perspective, the Twins/Ballpark Debate

2001-11-09 Thread Walt Cygan
In response to Mark J. Moller: Let's assume all of your points are accurate: What doesn't get funded in order to pump $500 million into a ballpark? Or do taxes get raised to pay for it? Or do we raise the restaurant and bar taxes even further? Or put a tax on tickets? I agree with the comment by

Re: [Mpls] A different perspective, the Twins/Ballpark Debate

2001-11-09 Thread Robert Schmid
> A different perspective, the Twins/Ballpark Debate > > The “Vociferous Opponents of Ballparks and other entertainment they > don’t appreciate therefore it is unnecessary for everyone else” or > VOBs, tend to over-inflate the debate. If we do, it is because the "other" side has done so with the

[Mpls] School Board Accountability matters

2001-11-09 Thread Gypsycurse7
I agree. Money matters. So does board accountability. It seems to me that the Minneapolis Public School district has enough money to do a pretty good job of educating our kids. As I noted before, Special School District #1 is among the least revenue challenged school districts in the state

[Mpls] RE:What would you change in the Mpls Election process

2001-11-09 Thread Steven Houdek
The one thing I would change would be to simply make sure that EVERY candidate in the primary was invited to be in debates. To systematically block out more than half of the candidates is a slap in the face to our political system. I think it is a farce that media and such organizations decid