[Mpls] Government Beans

2005-01-13 Thread Victoria Heller
Good news Mike - I just bought you a copy of "With or Without Beans: An Informal Biography of Texas Chili" That was an easy way to save Minneapolis $100 million. No need to thank me, I make many charitable contributions for the "public good." Vicky Heller North Oaks and Cedar-Riverside Mike

[Mpls] Government Beans

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Nelson
Sorry, That title should've been "With or Without Beans". The offer of fifty bucks still stands. Mike Nelson Central REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-b

Re: [Mpls] Government

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Nelson
Vickie Heller wrote: " Google is making ALL of the contents of the finest private libraries, including Harvard's and Stanford's, available for free via the internet. And thanks to Xerox, you can print a hard cover copy of anything in your living room. The private sector is doing a much better

Re: [Mpls] Mpls Government NOT IN LIST SCOPE

2005-01-11 Thread List manager
Another non-Mpls post. Warnings and expulsions will follow if this keeps up. Please, folks, CITY issues here, not generalized debates that could happen anywhere. David Brauer List manager On Jan 11, 2005, at 8:52 AM, Steve Nelson wrote: How strangeI always thought that those troops served a

Re: [Mpls] Mpls Government

2005-01-11 Thread Steve Nelson
Bernstein in conclusion wrote: So Vicki, go enjoy your independence, celebrate your freedom. Government will be there making sure you can do so! Johnson writes: Seems that Bernstein is crediting the government with maintaining the freedom and independence we have. I suppose that forgetting America

RE: [Mpls] Mpls Government

2005-01-10 Thread List Manager
-democracy.org David Brauer List manager > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Bob Johnson > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:54 PM > To: mpls@mnforum.org > Subject: [Mpls] Mpls Government > > Bernstein in conclusion

[Mpls] Mpls Government

2005-01-10 Thread Bob Johnson
Bernstein in conclusion wrote: So Vicki, go enjoy your independence, celebrate your freedom. Government will be there making sure you can do so! Johnson writes: Seems that Bernstein is crediting the government with maintaining the freedom and independence we have. I suppose that forgetting Americ

Re:[Mpls] Government

2005-01-10 Thread fmarkus
It's January 10 already - seven short weeks before the first Tuesday in March when the DFL Party, for one, has elected to have municipal precinct caucuses. First precincts, then wards, then a city convention. Great fun and all for the purpose of vetting candidates, incumbent or otherwise, who want

[Mpls] Government

2005-01-10 Thread Victoria Heller
Steven Cross: I am weary of Ms. Heller's endless attacks on good government. Vicky Heller: Marching toward bankruptcy is not a form of good government. Withholding financial data from the taxpayers and voters is not a form of good government. Tripling property taxes in Minneapolis over the n

[Mpls] Government

2005-01-10 Thread Steve Cross
Vicky Heller said: "Quite the contrary, my standard of living has been drastically reduced and my personal liberty has been curtailed government actions." I say: I am weary of Ms. Heller's endless attacks on good government. At least I know what to expect and can hit the "delete" rather than sub

Re: [Mpls] Government

2005-01-10 Thread gemgram
Peter Vevang writes: "As I see it, Minneapolis is a bastion of freedom when compared to many other parts of the country. I am free to speak my mind here. I am free to live my life as I choose without having to worry about the government watching my every move. I can pick up my phone and talk

[Mpls] Government

2005-01-10 Thread Peter Vevang
Victoria Heller wrote- "...Quite the contrary, my standard of living has been drastically reduced and my personal liberty has been curtailed government actions..." Peter Vevang writes- I am growing a bit tired of the Republican "victimology". As if the big bad liberals were out to get them, and w

[Mpls] Government

2005-01-09 Thread Victoria Heller
Jim Bernstein: The cold hard truth of it is that you are utterly dependent on government for almost everything you do - you have been for a long time and will continue to be as long as you live. Vicky Heller: Your statement may apply to you, but I've never been on the government payroll. Quite

Re: [Mpls] Government (Sunday Sermons)

2005-01-09 Thread gemgram
A wonderful sermon by Jim Bernstein so early on a Sunday morning! And the things he preached about are absolutely true, I might add. Though something that should have been added, and probably overlooked for the sake of brevity, is that "OUR" government is (or should be) totally dependent upon

RE: [Mpls] Government

2005-01-09 Thread Jim Bernstein
This time Vicki you've really jumped off the boat! This idiotic notion (I am not calling you an idiot, it is the concept that is idiotic) of "freedom loving, independent people [who] do not want to become dependent on government for anything" has taken root somehow and otherwise intelligent people

[Mpls] Re: (Mpls):Government employment; Mpls School Super

2003-10-13 Thread John M O'Neal
Subject: [Mpls] Economics and free markets We still object to taxes. It started in the Americas in the current Dominican Republic in1493 and we still object. Do we face a threat of force or property seizure if we do not pay our taxes? Of course. To imagine that all people would willing pay taxes

[Mpls] Mpls government designed to fail?

2003-04-06 Thread Victoria Heller
Mark Anderson asks: "Does anyone out there have numbers showing where our increases have come from?" Vicky takes a stab: The biggest problem is interest payments on growing debts. The property taxes collected in TIF districts were supposed to pay down debt - but they didn't. Instead, they were