On 3/3/05 9:50 PM, "Michael Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Making $20 an hour to drive a bus (a bus!!), and they wanted more from the
> public teat? No wonder we're going broke.
I think bus drivers deserve every penny they get. I wouldn't want someone
who has the lives of 30 people in the
Michael Thompson wrote:
Making $20 an hour to drive a bus (a bus!!), and they wanted more from the
public teat? No wonder we're going broke.
I drove those buses for several years. My top wage was $14.02/hr., time
and a half for overtime, double time on holidays. I earned every penny
of it. I
indom
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From: "Jennifer L. Rubenzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mpls mn forum"
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: [Mpls] RE: Bus Strike
> "March 4, 2004 - April 18, 2004"
>
>
"March 4, 2004 - April 18, 2004"
I loved it! I had a listing in Linden Hills right on W 44th that showed
much better without those noisy buses going by every 10 minutes!
Every dark cloud has a silver lining! : )
-Jennifer Rubenzer
Positive in Plymouth
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Mark Snyder wrote:
Shockingly, the Minnesota House did the right thing for once and voted down a
lamebrained proposal to privatize Metro Transit. Unfortunately, they also wimped out
and voted down a proposal by Rep. Karen Clark that would have brought the buses back
by forcing ATU and Met Counci
Mark Snyder points out...
> Before this strike/lockout started, Peter Bell chose to give Metro Transit
> managers 5% raises.
[MH] First, as has been pointed out, this is no lockout. Second, I believe
the union got 7 percent over two years in a comparable time frame. What
percentage increase have
On 4/3/04 1:56 PM, "Victoria Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dennis Plante asks:
>
> "State runs-out of money? No problem - cut LGA to metro areas, cut transit
> worker benefits, cut, cut, cut cut... At some point we'll need to look for
> substance behind the curtain. What IS the plan?"
>
Vicky Heller says:
The plan is to CUT SPENDING.
A) Beg your mother for money to meet your child's demands?
B) Borrow money that you cannot repay to meet your child's demands?
C) Explain to your child that the answer is NO, at least for now.
Governor Pawlenty and Peter Bell have chosen option
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Re: Bus Strike
>
> Members: I'll dig up Sandy's number Friday. I think you should all
give her a callsince she seems to be the designaated point person at
the Met Council for irate callers.
Members: I'll dig up Sandy's number Friday. I think you should all give her a
callsince she seems to be the designaated point person at the Met Council for
irate callers. There's also a person in Governor Pawlenty's office who needs to
hear more from us.Peter Schmitz Dow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I said that was considerabley more than what full-time bus drivers with the most seniority earn she told me that she has a college degree and earns less than the bus drivers who don't have college degrees.
A whole lot of bus drivers do have college degrees.
WizardM
Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry regarding binding arbitration, health care
benefits and the misinformation I received from Sandy at the Met Council. I suspected
she was misrepresenting the facts, but wanted to make sure.
She also told me that Peter Bell gets a half-time salary from t
Tim Bonham asked "So then why should I be upset at both sides?" (in regards
to the transit strike).
If your focus is to help the poor, you should push for increased services
and lower fares. The most likely way to accomplish that is to increase
government funding AND lower operational costs (mos
-- Tim Bonham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, I am upset at BOTH sides -- I think they
should submit it to an arbitrator who can come up with a neutral solution to end this
strike.
Oh, wait, the union has already agreed to do that -- it's just the Met
Council who refuses. (Wonder what they're
Bonham
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:19 PM
To: mpls-issues
Subject: [Mpls] Re: Bus Strike
Yes, I am upset at BOTH sides -- I think they should submit it to an
arbitrator who can come up with a neutral solution to end this strike.
Oh, wait, the union has already agreed to do that -- it's just th
Yes, I am upset at BOTH sides -- I think they should submit it to an
arbitrator who can come up with a neutral solution to end this strike.
Oh, wait, the union has already agreed to do that -- it's just the Met
Council who refuses. (Wonder what they're scared of?)
So then why should I be upset
Bruce Gardner wrote:
>Even if you park the bus
>somewhere downtown, what does the driver who started out in Eden Prairie
>do all day? Does the company pay him for 8 hours of doing nothing,
>ending up with a 10-12 hour day?
>
>Bruce Gaarder
Tim Bonham replied:
Almost certainly not. You
Tim Bonham talks about split shifts as a way of not paying drivers who
would be stranded downtown many miles from where they start and finish
work.
It appears that Tim would pay them to drive an hour into town, leave them
downtown with no transportation back to where they started, and expect
them
Mark Snyder said a couple of things that I think may not be correct.
He doesn't like the idea of transit being privatized. The idea of
competitive contracting is an alternative, where MT would set standards
and let private companies do the work, subsidizing to a lesser degree
than for regular MT
Even if you park the bus
somewhere downtown, what does the driver who started out in Eden Prairie
do all day? Does the company pay him for 8 hours of doing nothing,
ending up with a 10-12 hour day?
Bruce Gaarder
Almost certainly not. You never heard of split shifts? They are
real commo
Shawne thinks that there must be some profitable routes or parts of
routes. Whole routes, no. Parts, that would depend on how short a
length you want to look at. You can't really find profitable routes
in the whole country. The New York area has half the country's transit
ridership. The subway
I don't believe this is accurate. The "long empty drive" only applies if
management is dumb enough to do that.
But what actually happens, for example, is that the Eden Prairie bus drives
from it's overnight garage in Eden Prairie to park & ride lots and picks up
passengers, then drives (nearly
Bruce Gaarder wrote:
The routes with the lowest subsidy per passenger trip are most likely
16 (University) and 21 (Lake Street). I don't have the Sector 5
restructuring study book in hand, but you can see the figures in there.
Why do these have the lowest subsidies? Because there are lots of sho
Bruce Gaarder wrote:
Lower wages and benefits than MT?
WM: Even if they are unionized and form a local ATU, their pay scale and
benefits packages are unlikely to be as high as MCTO.
Could these private
companies come in and start a new Lake Street Line or are they prohibited
by law from doi
Terrell says that the suburban lines serve the "cream runs". That would
depend on whether the routes in question are operated under contract from
or be subsidized by Metro Transit.
In order to skim the cream in an unsubsidized environment, the company
would have to be able to make a profit. How
ting his beamer ready now.
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/fastlanes/
Madeline Douglass
Kingfield (Mpls)
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From: Jeff Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:51 AM
Subject: [Mpls] Re: Bus strike -- David Strom
Well, to add to all of the debate about transit and highways, there was in
article in the Metro Section of the Strib today about the impending addition
of toll lanes to our highways. It provided a decent forum for me to begin
airing some of my (still germinating) ideas about transit, transportation
Jeff Rosenberg wrote:
Barbara Lickness wrote:
Mr. Taxpayer League, maybe the reason you aren't
hearing loud outcries yet is because we have a lot of
really nice people in this city that are willing to go
the extra mile to help out their fellow man
--
The
The whole premise for the statements made by the taxpayers league are absurd
in nature. The statements are backed-up by nothing other than a few days
worth of informal observations that everything appeared to be "running
smoothly". What exactly led to these conclusions? The fact that a bunch
Barbara Lickness wrote:
Mr. Taxpayer League, maybe the reason you aren't
hearing loud outcries yet is because we have a lot of
really nice people in this city that are willing to go
the extra mile to help out their fellow man
--
The reason they haven't he
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