RE: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-09-23 Thread Jim Bernstein
as their colleagues in St. Paul voted NOT to give Excelsior the use of eminent domain. Jim Bernstein Fulton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls]

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-09-23 Thread Chris Johnson
Emilie Quast wrote: According to the S'Trib, the Crown Hydro project just got a 45 day extension. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4995488.html They should have named it "Crown Hydra" I think. Emilie Quast SE Como. A very appropriate nickname, I think. This is the 4th extension Crown Hydr

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro planning to take Mill Ruins Park site via eminent domain

2004-07-19 Thread Mark Snyder
On 7/19/04 12:15 AM, "Dave Stack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Skyway News article states: "Crown Hydro's west bank project received a > $5.1 million grant from Xcel's Renewable Energy Fund and, according to the > letter, has spent $1.4 million". I am curious if anyone knows if these > million

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-22 Thread Annie Young
Thank you for posting this. I had heard early last week that the Water Committee of Sierra Club was debating the issue intensely among themselves as to their position. It is not clear to me that this letter got to us in time for the Wednesday vote - I don't think I saw it anyway, so I am glad

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-21 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On 5/20/04 5:15 PM, "Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "It seems like more people every year are appreciating the river in Mpls as a > wonderful natural amenity." (Dave Stack) > > I mean no disrespect but I, too, live near the lock and dam and, with yet > another condo building going up outside

RE: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-20 Thread Shawn
"It seems like more people every year are appreciating the river in Mpls as a wonderful natural amenity." (Dave Stack) I mean no disrespect but I, too, live near the lock and dam and, with yet another condo building going up outside my window, I have unfortunately come to the conclusion that it

RE: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-20 Thread Jim Bernstein
Mr. Stack - I think you will be waiting longer than a lifetime! Without the locks, the river becomes unnavigable to both pleasure boats and commercial shipping. The Mississippi River is indeed a wonderful natural amenity but it also a vital commercial waterway and a source of pleasure for many re

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro vote

2004-05-19 Thread Chris Johnson
List Manager wrote: http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4786024.html Voting to kill the Crown Hydro deal: Young, Erwin, Dziedzic, Berry Graves, Mason. Voting to keep it: Hauser, Fine, Kummer, Olson. Contrary to the impression that Annie Young's message leaves with me that Walt Dziedzic moved

Visions of DisneyRiver... Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-19 Thread Dyna Sluyter
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, at 09:46 AM, stack wrote: It seems like more people every year are appreciating the river in Mpls as a wonderful natural amenity. Stack, I noted in a recent article that we workers at the Post Office with the supposed premier view of this "natural amenity" are being g

re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-19 Thread Jeff Fellows
I share Mr. Stack's desire for the Mississippi River to run free. The Crown Hydro project inlet water race is in the basin above the falls. These water races predate the lock by some ?80 years?. Recently the water races were daylighted, and water has been successfully run through them. Currentl

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro editorial

2004-05-19 Thread David Brauer
On May 19, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Chris Johnson wrote: /Below is an editorial by Minnesota Historical Society Director and State Historic Preservation Officer Nina Archabal which the Star Tribune chose not to print. Skyway News reported this development in Monday's paper, plus the concerns of the he

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-18 Thread ken bradley
Hello Minneapolis Folks, --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the interest of this conversation, has there been any study of the energy generation that could be acheived by placing wind generators on the skyscrapers downtown? KB wrote: I spoke with some people involved in wind development about this

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-17 Thread Joncgord
In the interest of this conversation, has there been any study of the energy generation that could be acheived by placing wind generators on the skyscrapers downtown? The wind voloumn seven hundred feet up from the street is considerable and pretty constant. The "masts" have alre

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-17 Thread Mark Snyder
On 5/17/04 12:16 PM, "Jeff Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why Crown Hydro? asks Mark in response to Allen's post. I think Allen meant > what he said when he wrote: > > "Crown Hydro is a good opportunity for the city of Minneapolis to demonstrate > it's commitment to renewable energy." I'

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro: light, not heat?

2004-05-17 Thread Gary Hoover
I worry about getting into this, because the tone of this thread gets personal pretty quickly. I do not know the technical specifics of the Crown Hydro proposal, but I do suspect that -- as with many proposals --the technical facts and uncertainties are open to considerable interpretation. The me

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-17 Thread Chris Johnson
Jeff Fellows wrote: Are you satisfied joining the naysayers, the do no gooders? We have a Green Park Commissioner voting against hydroelectric power. Do you wonder how the RiverPlace buildings were built without taking down the falls, as noted happened once in 1868, as the naysayers claim will hap

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-17 Thread Jeff Fellows
Mark Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro To: Minneapolis Issues Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Allen does raise some good perspective with regards to hydropower vs. other so

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro

2004-05-16 Thread Mark Snyder
Allen does raise some good perspective with regards to hydropower vs. other sources of electricity. But supporting hydropower isn't the same thing as supporting Crown Hydro. Again, the benefits Allen and others have cited for hydropower could be much more easily and cheaply realized by simply in

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro debate

2004-05-08 Thread Dan McGuire
I appreciate the efforts of both Ken and Chris to detail the issues regarding the proposal. I would like one thing clarified, please. I thought that hydroelectric power was first produced across the river on the 'St. Anthony' side and that the Minneapolis side was only mechanical hydro powe

RE: [Mpls] Crown Hydro debate

2004-05-08 Thread List Manager
Chris writes: > Part 1 of 2 (the list is just restrictive on my prolixity! :-) Sorry - been meaning to inform list members about this The server restricts posts to about 10 kb (in Unix measurements - it works out to about 25-30 kb per message on my PC). While it has the salutary effect of l

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro debate

2004-05-07 Thread Chris Johnson
Part 2 of 2 Ken Bradley wrote: Main opposition points vs Crown's Hydro Project include 2. Aesthetic flows over the falls/spillway. A minimum of 2000 cu. ft /sec was established in 1993 as a minimum. The Crown Hydro folks support this as a permanent standard. Only 50% of the time in a given year i

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro bullies Park Board?

2004-05-03 Thread Annie Young
Just for a matter of record the Crown Hydro project is still listed as a discussion item on the Full Board agenda for Wednesday. It is not clear yet who is going to make a motion and what that motion will be. Read today's Skyway News for the latest on counting heads (votes that is). Good point

RE: [Mpls] Crown Hydro bullies Park Board?

2004-05-03 Thread Michael Hohmann
MPRB likely had to file as intervener in the FERC docket by a date certain in order to establish legal standing as the project progresses before FERC. No sinister plot. Michael Hohmann Linden Hills > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Chris

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro project and the Park Board

2004-04-28 Thread Mark Snyder
On 4/28/04 4:01 PM, "Emilie Quast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing that really bothered him was that no one seemed to really *know* > what was going to happen in the fragile limestone bluffs, but if the thing > goes through, it's going to be happening for 50 years on the lease with a > rene

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro project and the Park Board

2004-04-28 Thread Emilie Quast
My friend who wanted to know is one of the residents in the Winslow House and probably one of the "constituants on the east side of the river whose opinions matter". One thing that really bothered him was that no one seemed to really *know* what was going to happen in the fragile limestone bluffs,

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro Project

2004-04-28 Thread Dan McGuire
I haven't heard a really convincing reason to risk damaging some of the city's most historic and important assets. I haven't heard enough to convince me that all of the necessary precautions are being taken to prevent damage to the falls and mill ruins. If they get damaged it will be billions,

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro project and the Park Board

2004-04-28 Thread lizski
Emily and others, I truly cannot speak for any of the Board Members BUT... When the vote on Crown Hydro was postponed it was placed on the May 5th agenda because Commissioner Fine would not be at the April 20th meeting. I would be willing to hazard a guess however that the two commissioners

Re: [Mpls] Crown Hydro and Renewable Development Fund

2004-03-10 Thread Mark Snyder
On 3/9/04 1:42 AM, "Chris Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Crown Hydro will be borrowing $1.1 million from the state's renewable > energy fund, all of which is funded by Xcel Energy as part of their > agreement with the state to store additional spent nuclear fuel casks at > Prairie Island.