Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread Andy Driscoll
If restaurants die because of smoking bans, they deserve to. Restaurants are for eating, not smoking; they're for families and socializing, not just for smoking, which harms everyone...except alcohol purveyors. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul -- on 10/21/05 1:46 PM, Dan wrote: >> As a person who, u

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread Dan
> As a person who, until last week, has spent almost every Tuesday night at Molly's for years, I have to tell you that there is a lot more issues there then just the smoking ban. > Since Molly's moved to the new site, they've never had smoking in the restaurant side so the smoking ban proba

RE: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Atherton
Tim Bonham wrote: > Dividing the US GNP ($11,750,000,000,000) evenly between the US > population(283,000,000) gives an income of $41,519 per person, or > over $297,000 for a family of four. > > Hardly "poverty". In fact, well into the middle-class range, > I would say. This statement is so

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread Pat Bohn
As a person who, until last week, has spent almost every Tuesday night at Molly's for years, I have to tell you that there is a lot more issues there then just the smoking ban. Since Molly's moved to the new site, they've never had smoking in the restaurant side so the smoking ban probab

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread David Shove
I know once again why I stopped reading posts by MA. --David Shove Roseville On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Tim Bonham wrote: > > >I'm sick of the middle-class, I think that we can all learn > >a lesson from the USSR and eliminate the upper and middle > >classes and all live in poverty together! Equal

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Steve Nelson
Gee whiz, Tim, did they happen to reveal how much of that $11,750,000,000,000 was controlled by the top 2% of the population, or top 5% or 10%? And then divide what is left over-- Steve Nelson Willard Hay I'm sick of the middle-class, I think that we can all learn a lesson from the U

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Ed Kohler
Dan Mcgrath wrote: Hasn't anyone considered that restaurants, and bars may be closing due to the gigantic drop in patronage following the March 31st implementation of the Minneapolis and Hennepin County smoking bans? Since the ban(s) took effect, 40 bars and several (don't have the exact number)

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Libby
On 10/20/05, Michael Libby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a link to the BLS data on (un)employment in metro areas. Oops!. Here's the link I spoke of, but forgot to include: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/metro_09282005.pdf > Scroll down. You'll notice that Minneapolis/St. Paul s

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Thompson
- Original Message - From: "Andy Driscoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dan McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Minneapolis Issues" Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes What claptrap. Restau

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Libby
On 10/20/05, Andy Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What claptrap. Lovely opening. > Restaurants are opening and closing all the time and we have > more restaurants than we could possibly support in this metro area in any > event. We have more restaurants than we could possibly support? Then

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Andy Driscoll
What claptrap. Restaurants are opening and closing all the time and we have more restaurants than we could possibly support in this metro area in any event. For most good restaurants, the smoking ban has boosted business. Alcohol sales dip when smokers can't smoke. Alcohol sales slumps in bars is h

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Thompson
- Original Message - From: "Becca Vargo Daggett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes I'm generally sorry for the bars that are negatively affected by the broader societal shi

RE: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Atherton
Steve Nelson wrote: > Before blaming the smoking ban I would look to the long term economic > decision made by the current administration and the fact that > they have literally drained the most of the middle class wealth. > How many meals a day do the wealthy eat? I think the term "fat cat"

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Steve Nelson
Before blaming the smoking ban I would look to the long term ecomonic decision made by the current administration and the fact that they have literally drained the most of the middle class wealth. How many meals a day do the wealthy eat? I think the term "fat cat" refers to their bank accounts

Schubert,,,,Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread David Strand
I also think the redevelopment of the Schubert Theater into the center for Dance performance, theater and the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra's Minneapolis location will help lighten up and enliven the area alot. I don't dislike Olive Garden but I'm not going to lose any sleep over losing one chain r

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Becca Vargo Daggett
On Oct 19, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: But hey, as long as the Linden Hills enlightened can listen to their jzz, man, in a smoke-free environment twice a month, that's all that matters, right? The smaller, locally-owned, mom and pop bars where blue-collar working p

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Thompson
October 19, 2005 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes Hasn't anyone considered that restaurants, and bars may be closing due to the gigantic drop in patronage following the March 31st implementation of the Minneapolis and Hennepin County smoking bans? Since the ban(s

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Dan McGrath
Hasn't anyone considered that restaurants, and bars may be closing due to the gigantic drop in patronage following the March 31st implementation of the Minneapolis and Hennepin County smoking bans? Since the ban(s) took effect, 40 bars and several (don't have the exact number) restaurants in Minnea