MSX Talk

2000-04-24 Thread Rafael Lima
25/04/00 Hi Folks! I just wanna tell you about a MSX forum, called MSX Talk, anyone iw welcome to post any messages there! Here's the Url http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/21026 Hope to read your messages there soon!!! Rafael Lima (A.K.A. Shatterhand) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe,

Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?

2000-04-24 Thread Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro
At 08:01 PM 4/21/00 -0300, you wrote: >On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:17:04, Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro wrote: > >> There is a RGB -> VGA module schematic into Novatec´s homepage. > > Does it only work for VGA monitors? Or it works with SVGA too and am I not aware? > > Don´t k

Re: two liners art gallery

2000-04-24 Thread Ricardo Bittencourt Vidigal Leitao
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Daniel Jorge Caetano wrote: > >Why didn't you never showed us "Nemesis Dawn" demo? Don't say that you > >made it yestarday! > It was shown in MSX Rio'99! (-; The version in the page in not the same version shown in rio'99 As you may remember , that version h

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Daniel Jorge Caetano
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:05:26 +0200, Patriek Lesparre wrote: >If you think like this, you wouldn't need ANY new instructions! Ofcourse >you can do whatever new instruction the Z380 has in several legacy Z80 >instructions, but I'd like to see how slow your implementation of "LD >DE,(SP-12)" would

Re: Z380, go read the manual (was Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...)

2000-04-24 Thread Daniel Jorge Caetano
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:30:50 +0200, Patriek Lesparre wrote: >If you take away all new registers and the new address space of the Z380, >you would still benefit greatly from the enhanced instructions. They are >NOT depending on those features! I think you are a lazy programmer. (-; >Have you a

Re: two liners art gallery

2000-04-24 Thread Daniel Jorge Caetano
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:03:54 -0300 (EST), Marco Antonio Simon dal Poz wrote: >Why didn't you never showed us "Nemesis Dawn" demo? Don't say that you >made it yestarday! It was shown in MSX Rio'99! (-; AbraçOS/2, Daniel Caetano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...!m.tag OS/2 Sites: http://www.quas

8x8 sprites in BrMSX screen 5

2000-04-24 Thread Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha
> Yeah? Well, I still haven't seen 8x8 sprite support in screen 5. And we > really need it, for GEM development... Hey, big fudeba! I told you once, Daniel told you and also Ricardo told you! Send e-mails to Ricardo asking for 8x8 sprites in BrMSX SCREEN 5 until he implem

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Patriek Lesparre
> I do not think they are "so" important, since they never were missed by >me... (-; This type of thing will take away the "register selection" >task... (-; If you think like this, you wouldn't need ANY new instructions! Ofcourse you can do whatever new instruction the Z380 has in several leg

Re: Z180 vs Z380 (was Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?)

2000-04-24 Thread Patriek Lesparre
Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba wrote: >I'm not a programmer, and of course I can't >push my personal software shortage to any >program; my dream tool doesn't exist and I >honestly can't say if a programmer devoted >time, sweat and sleep to a project like mine >(considering I'd hardly help him) it wo

Z380, go read the manual (was Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...)

2000-04-24 Thread Patriek Lesparre
Daniel Jorge Caetano wrote: > "new" Relative calls are about the 32 bit addresses. It doesn't make sense >on a 8 bit processor (such as Z180). ofcourse they make sense on an 8 bit processor! They allow fully relocatable programs. They are NOT about 32 bit addresses, but can be used in 8, 16 o

Re: Z180 vs Z380 (was Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?)

2000-04-24 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Siebe Berveling wrote: > >My computer is a MSX1 with 3 1/2" drive, a > >MegaRAM, an FM expansion and nothing else! > >(unless you count in the Gradiente TA-1) :P (...) > This is a lovely example of the average MSX user. > I believe all MSX developing should be done for these people. I agree compl

Re: two liners art gallery

2000-04-24 Thread Marco Antonio Simon dal Poz
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Ricardo Bittencourt Vidigal Leitao wrote: > It's called "two liners art gallery", because two-liners > programming is much more an art than a science :) > Point your browsers to ... > http://www.lsi.usp.br/~ricardo/msx/twoliner > ... and don't forget t

Re: Z180 vs Z380 (was Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?)

2000-04-24 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Patriek Lesparre wrote: > On a final note, I'd like to qoute from a message by Pablo Vasques: > >Although Leonard Oliveira will convert my old > >MSX1 to MSX2 and you can expect some GOOD things > >coming from this. I'm not allowed to say more. :] > So upgrading to a new system hightens his produc

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Daniel Jorge Caetano
>The Z380 is at the moment the only candidate for a new MSX. Creating an own >processor is too much work, if we do that it will take another three years >only to create the processor (or something like that). And that's stupid if >there already is a fit candidate. Create a "new" MSX standard i

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Laurens Holst
> >Most new functions are 16-bit extensions (16-bit add). Those could also have > >been added to the Z180. Not only DIV, but also RLCW HL - ANDW HL,BC - NEGW > >HL - SUB SP,nn and things like PUSH nn - EX BC,DE etcetera. > >So you are still quite wrong here, although I now understand what you mean

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Laurens Holst
> ] IN F,(C) is not available in either of the processors. > This instruction actually exists on the Z80 and therefore also on the Z380. > Quote from the Z80 instruction table: > > Mnemonic: IN r,(C) > Sym Operation: r <- (C) > Opcode: 11 101 101 >01 r000 > r stands for regis

Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?

2000-04-24 Thread Laurens Holst
> ] Whow, that's news (not). > ] You need to add 7 T-states of wait (usually an LD A,n) between two OUTs. > ] However, OTIR itself is that slow the wait is already included. > So, you can make a faster transfer for ADVRAM, with something like: > loop: > ldi > ldi > ldi > ldi > ldi > ld

multiple disk drives

2000-04-24 Thread Floris 'Tamama' van Gog
Holas, I have a nms 8235 which has a *whine* 360kb internal diskdrive. This is no biggy though as i also have an external cannon VF-100 which is 720kb. The reason of this post? The cannon is both A and B, and the internal floppy is C. The external drive has a connector for another external drive,

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Daniel Jorge Caetano
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:11:46 +0200, Laurens Holst wrote: >Most of the instructions you are talking about remained the same as they >used to be. They are only extended in another operation mode. There are very >few new specific instructions to cope with the extended address range. >Most new functi

Re: Z180 vs Z380 (was Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?)

2000-04-24 Thread Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha
> > So lets use PIII, it is able to run at least 4 (four) 8 bit > > instructions at a cicle... (-: > Some sense at last! Let's use a PIII. We can then use normal > PC hardware - everything standard and relatively cheap. > New software can be developed easily - lost of development > tools availabl

Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?

2000-04-24 Thread Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha
> >> I care, because I want to run my MSX programs faster! > >I asked in the other mail also, what programs are those? > PMEXT, pe. UZIX. Breeze. VIP 2+... (-: Turbo Pascal, Hitech-C, SD Snatcher, Nemesis, R-Type, calculation programs... Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Alex Wulms
] IN F,(C) is not available in either of the processors. This instruction actually exists on the Z80 and therefore also on the Z380. Quote from the Z80 instruction table: Mnemonic: IN r,(C) Sym Operation: r <- (C) Opcode: 11 101 101 01 r000 r stands for register: 000: B

Re: virtual retrace?

2000-04-24 Thread Alex Wulms
] ] On the other hand, maybe it's better to use a ON INTERVAL command. I'm not ] sure how it works, but if it's interrupt driven it might be faster than ] checking S#2 bit 6. Besides, I don't even know you CAN read S#2 in BASIC ] since the interrupt routine always expects S#0! You can read S#2

Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?

2000-04-24 Thread Alex Wulms
] ] Whow, that's news (not). ] You need to add 7 T-states of wait (usually an LD A,n) between two OUTs. ] However, OTIR itself is that slow the wait is already included. So, you can make a faster transfer for ADVRAM, with something like: loop: ldi ldi ldi ldi ldi ldi ldi jp pe,loo

Re: ACE 002 and ADVRAM...? New MSX?

2000-04-24 Thread Alex Wulms
] > >Okay, now I come to think of it, I admit it will also be very useful to ] > >display 3D rendered stuff. Okay, leave it in, it's a good idea. ] > ] > Yes! (-; No only 3D... videos also. ] ] Okay, I'm sold! ] ] It will not matter much for games, but things like 3D and video will have ] grea

Re: The mapper (hardware)...

2000-04-24 Thread Laurens Holst
> THE MAPPER (hardware) > == > status: unfinished > version: 1.0 > > The first 64kB of the Z380's address range should be mapped just like > normal MSX mappers (controlled through I/O ports FC, FD, FE and FF). > The maximum number of RAM for this adress range will then ofcourse be > the fi

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Laurens Holst
> >UNTRUE!!! > >Those are the same as the Z80 versions, but work different in another mode > >(or havea so-called Data Directive (DDIR) opcode). > > What I've tried to say (but I think I had failed) that is: > most instructions NEW on Z380 will doesn't make any sense on Z180. > This is why they

Re: ACE002, Z180, (LPE) Z380, ADVRAM... New MSX...

2000-04-24 Thread Laurens Holst
> >> I don't know. But I think it's possible to "add" this instructions. (-; > >> In the same way as ADVRAM works, but doing a "bridge" over Z180. > >Hmmm... How will the registers be read then??? > > I think that, if it's possible, it'll be a DIRTY service... (-; Yes. And I really have no id

MSX3: The board...

2000-04-24 Thread Laurens Holst
THE BOARD = Status: unfinished Version: 1.0 This MSX3... It's really not that hard to build (ofcourse that's a relative term). This is what basically has to be done: When it's finished (or almost finished), take Ademir's ACE002 board, remove the Z180, insert a Z380 (leave A31-A16 and D7-