Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-14 Thread Laurens Holst
> ] Which has been implemented in DOS2 already. And why is it so hard to > ] initialize once without going to Basic? Does it have something to do with > ] that CLEAR-issue? > > No. It has to do with the way in which MSXDOS.SYS (which is loaded in high > area of memory) manages the DOS memory. Spe

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-13 Thread Alex Wulms
] Which has been implemented in DOS2 already. And why is it so hard to ] initialize once without going to Basic? Does it have something to do with ] that CLEAR-issue? No. It has to do with the way in which MSXDOS.SYS (which is loaded in high area of memory) manages the DOS memory. Kind regards

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-13 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 23:10 12-7-00 +0200, you wrote: >] That's why MemMan TSR management rules. If we could extract that TSR >] management system and adapt it for DOS2 only, we wouldn't have that problem. >We would still have the problem that the TSR management routines must be >loaded in BASIC environment. But ind

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-12 Thread Alex Wulms
] At 00:37 12-7-00 +0200, you wrote: ] ] >I myself have never been able to do so. Just take for example R800-drive. You ] >can only load it from BASIC. And the only reason that I never made a DOS .COM ] >version of it is exactly because, by my knowledge, it is impossible to ] >properly load a TSR

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-12 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 10:22 12-7-00 -0300, you wrote: >Alex Wulms wrote: > > ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? > > Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-)) > >Hey, I want it. Where can we find it? Does it >work with both MSX-Music and PSG? :) If you mean the T

RE: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-12 Thread Eric . Boon
Frits Hilderink wrote: [editorial cut&paste] >> > ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? >> > Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-)) >> >> Hey, I want it. Where can we find it? Does it >> work with both MSX-Music and PSG? :) > > It uses

RE: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-12 Thread Frits Hilderink
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pablo > Vasques Bravo-Villalba > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)) > > > Alex Wulms wrote: > > ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone st

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-12 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Alex Wulms wrote: > ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? > Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-)) Hey, I want it. Where can we find it? Does it work with both MSX-Music and PSG? :) []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-12 Thread David Heremans
> > Sure. But I think it's better to leave the memory management > > to DOS2 and > > use the TSR-manager from MemMan, because that part of MemMan > > really rules. Yep, but most of the TSR's will use the memmory management of memman also, so if you seperate those routine most of the current TSRs

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 00:37 12-7-00 +0200, you wrote: >I myself have never been able to do so. Just take for example R800-drive. You >can only load it from BASIC. And the only reason that I never made a DOS .COM >version of it is exactly because, by my knowledge, it is impossible to >properly load a TSR under DOS.

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Alex Wulms
] ] ] [MemMan] ] >That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one. ] >IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to ] >Basic to initialize the rest... I wish you much success with writing a TSR initialization routine that runs under DOS and

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Alex Wulms
] ] Hi, ] ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-)) Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images,

RE: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 11:44 11-7-00 +0200, you wrote: >Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Yes I do... What about it? GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe,

RE: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Frits Hilderink
Hi, Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Greetings, Frits > > Sure. But I think it's better to leave the memory management > to DOS2 and > use the TSR-manager from MemMan, because that part of MemMan > really rules. > > > > GreeTz, BiFi > MSX Mailing

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 10:43 11-7-00 +0200, you wrote: > [MemMan] > >That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one. > >IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to > >Basic to initialize the rest... > >Hm, then why not rewrite the entire MemMan (Yeah! MemMan2000

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Eric . Boon
[MemMan] >That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one. >IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to >Basic to initialize the rest... Hm, then why not rewrite the entire MemMan (Yeah! MemMan2000! ;-)). The specs are lying around somewhe

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 18:06 10-7-00 +0200, you wrote: > > The problem is, you always see the welcome message of MemMan. You can't > > switch it off. > >That should be no problem. How about using a disk editor to patch MEMMAN.COM >? Just change the first character of the welcome message to '$' if it uses >the BDOS to

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-11 Thread Pierre Gielen
> The problem is, you always see the welcome message of MemMan. You can't > switch it off. That should be no problem. How about using a disk editor to patch MEMMAN.COM ? Just change the first character of the welcome message to '$' if it uses the BDOS to print or to zero if it uses asciiz strings

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-09 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 12:48 9-7-00 +0200, you wrote: > > > >MemMan sucks. > > > >It loads in an awful way (exiting to Basic). > > > > AFAIK, there is the ONLY way in which a TSR can be loaded. It is due to > > an incomplete design of MSX-DOS (makers did not though on page 3 memory > > reservation...) However it is p

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-09 Thread Laurens Holst
> > >MemMan sucks. > > >It loads in an awful way (exiting to Basic). > > AFAIK, there is the ONLY way in which a TSR can be loaded. It is due to > an incomplete design of MSX-DOS (makers did not though on page 3 memory > reservation...) However it is posible to avoid the BASIC exit messages > and

Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-09 Thread NĂ©stor Soriano
> >MemMan sucks. > >It loads in an awful way (exiting to Basic). AFAIK, there is the ONLY way in which a TSR can be loaded. It is due to an incomplete design of MSX-DOS (makers did not though on page 3 memory reservation...) However it is posible to avoid the BASIC exit messages and the "_SYSTEM"

MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))

2000-07-09 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 22:58 8-7-00 +0200, you wrote: > > Or use MemMan, but that part of what they wanted to be a standard is just > > as ancient as Metal Gear Solid will be in about a year... Then it really >be > > last millennium :) > >MemMan sucks. >It loads in an awful way (exiting to Basic). > >Erix' Fossil doe

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-08 Thread Laurens Holst
> >Some simple steps that make sure your program runs on all MSXes: > >- Use DOS2 memory routines if they are present. > >- If DOS2 memory routines are not present, make your own routines, which > >store the values written to the mapper ports. When you need the current > >value of a mapper port, d

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-06 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 13:24 6-7-00 +, you wrote: >On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Albert Beevendorp wrote: > > > > MAP.COM Which will crash the 1024 kB MSX turbo R ;-) > > > > Huh? How standard is it then (either MAP.COM or the MSX turbo R)? > >MAP.COM is a dirty hack to make ill-behaving programs work on those DOS2 >machi

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-06 Thread Maarten ter Huurne
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Albert Beevendorp wrote: > > MAP.COM Which will crash the 1024 kB MSX turbo R ;-) > > Huh? How standard is it then (either MAP.COM or the MSX turbo R)? MAP.COM is a dirty hack to make ill-behaving programs work on those DOS2 machines that are able to read the mapper ports.

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-05 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 23:24 5-7-00 +0200, you wrote: >] At 23:02 4-7-00 -0300, you wrote: >] >P.S.: I tried it under DOS1.x I dunno if it uses DOS2 mapper control >] >routines if DOS2 is installed >] >and running ... >] >] It won't then... No need to try it, because the DOS2 routines overide >] manually setting a ma

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-05 Thread Alex Wulms
] At 23:02 4-7-00 -0300, you wrote: ] >P.S.: I tried it under DOS1.x I dunno if it uses DOS2 mapper control ] >routines if DOS2 is installed ] >and running ... ] ] It won't then... No need to try it, because the DOS2 routines overide ] manually setting a mapping any time... Okay, with one except

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-04 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 23:02 4-7-00 -0300, you wrote: >P.S.: I tried it under DOS1.x I dunno if it uses DOS2 mapper control >routines if DOS2 is installed >and running ... It won't then... No need to try it, because the DOS2 routines overide manually setting a mapping any time... Okay, with one exception... MAP.COM

RE: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-04 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 02:35 5-7-00 +0200, you wrote: > > That's where my version doesn't need that. Strange things like having to > > press the CTRL key at startup to make a game work... I know more of these > > versions :( > >Martos' cracks are the BEST even when is needed to press CTRL . >BTW, some of these cr

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-04 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 02:35 5-7-00 +0200, you wrote: > > > Did you press CTRL key at start up? > > > > > Yes, i did, and also tryed both versions (0 and 1), but it keep > > resetting. I have Turbo-R ST with 1024Kb. I also tryed Mahjong 2 from > > martos, same problem. Somebody else tryed these games on his Turbo-R ?

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-04 Thread Leonard Silva de Oliveira
Sandy Pleyte wrote: > > Jose Angel Morente wrote: > > > > > Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the > > > Crack of Martos doesn't :( > > > > Huh? It should work on MSXturboR ... > > > > Did you press CTRL key at start up? > > > Yes, i did, and also tryed both

RE: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-04 Thread Jose Angel Morente
> That's where my version doesn't need that. Strange things like having to > press the CTRL key at startup to make a game work... I know more of these > versions :( Martos' cracks are the BEST even when is needed to press CTRL . BTW, some of these cracks load the game in blocks of 24KB to be

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-04 Thread Jose Angel Morente
> > Did you press CTRL key at start up? > > > Yes, i did, and also tryed both versions (0 and 1), but it keep > resetting. I have Turbo-R ST with 1024Kb. I also tryed Mahjong 2 from > martos, same problem. Somebody else tryed these games on his Turbo-R ? Yes, I did. They work very well on my MSXt

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-03 Thread Sandy Pleyte
Jose Angel Morente wrote: > > > Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the > > Crack of Martos doesn't :( > > Huh? It should work on MSXturboR ... > > Did you press CTRL key at start up? > Yes, i did, and also tryed both versions (0 and 1), but it keep resetti

RE: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-03 Thread Albert Beevendorp
That's where my version doesn't need that. Strange things like having to press the CTRL key at startup to make a game work... I know more of these versions :( At 02:45 4-7-00 +0200, you wrote: > > Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the > > Crack of Martos does

RE: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-03 Thread Albert Beevendorp
> > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose > > Angel Morente > > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 4:11 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB) > > > > > >

RE: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-03 Thread Jose Angel Morente
> Does some body has a crack whitch also works on a Turbo-R ? Because the > Crack of Martos doesn't :( Huh? It should work on MSXturboR ... Did you press CTRL key at start up? Un saludo, Jose Angel Morente ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *MSX DREAMS* (

RE: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-03 Thread Sandy Pleyte
: Monday, July 03, 2000 4:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB) > > > Hello !!! > > > Martos has converted A1 Spirit to a disk version to be loaded > on any MSX2 with at least 128KB mapper. If you want yo hear > SCC music you n

Re: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-03 Thread Albert Beevendorp
At 16:10 3-7-00 +0200, you wrote: >Martos has converted A1 Spirit to a disk version to be loaded >on any MSX2 with at least 128KB mapper. If you want yo hear >SCC music you need a mapper >128KB. Hehe, guess what... so did I. 256 kB version only though... Available on my FTP soon but you can mai

A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)

2000-07-03 Thread Jose Angel Morente
Hello !!! Martos has converted A1 Spirit to a disk version to be loaded on any MSX2 with at least 128KB mapper. If you want yo hear SCC music you need a mapper >128KB. It is on my web page: http://msxjam.web.com or http://www.ag0ny.com/msx-legacy/index.htm