RE: v9938 databook...

2001-03-28 Thread B. Wijnen
I have a pretty good photocopy (at least most of it is pretty good...) I'll take it with me to Tilburg. Where can I find you? On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Hans Otten wrote: > Yes, with the right software (Finereader for example) ocr scanning is a very > mature solution of getting text into editable form

RE: v9938 databook...

2001-03-26 Thread Hans Otten
good scans or good original or photocopies... Hans -Original Message- From: B. Wijnen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 09:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: v9938 databook... Laurens Holst wrote: > I am manually entering the contents of the v9938 databook int

Re: v9938 databook...

2001-03-26 Thread B. Wijnen
Laurens Holst wrote: > I am manually entering the contents of the v9938 databook into a textfile. > just to let you know, in case someone else is also doing this. > current progress: page 11 of 161 (bareuh...). This sounds like a very good initiative. But it will take a lot of (your) time. Isn't

Re: v9938 databook...

2001-03-26 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Laurens Holst wrote: > I am manually entering the contents of the v9938 databook into a textfile. > just to let you know, in case someone else is also doing this. > current progress: page 11 of 161 (bareuh...). Hey, I like it. =) AFAIK, this databook was previously available only in a scanned for

RE: v9938 databook scanned: PDF online

2001-02-26 Thread Hans Otten
be found at: http://ganymede.spaceports.com/~hansmsx/ Hans -Original Message- From: Sean Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 17:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: v9938 databook scanned On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 05:50:26AM +0200, JP Grobler wrote: > H

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Sean Young
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 05:50:26AM +0200, JP Grobler wrote: > Here is the v9938 databook in (word?) format: > http://ieee.d.umn.edu/~bsprange/files/v9938.doc > it is a 37M download, but it is there! It is ons the page of Brian > Spranger. He is building a games station. > http://ieee.d.umn.edu/~bs

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Sean Young
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 05:16:54PM +0100, Hans Otten wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:06:46PM +0100, Hans Otten wrote: > > > I started converting to PDF by converting all files from PNG color format > > > tot black and white. The resulting sum shrinks to 1.8 Mbyte. > > > > What's the colorde

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek
> Yes, i will try. Tomorrow i will download the doc file, ISDN is too slow. At > work a 2Mb line is better! Hans, thanks in advance for your great efforts. Sean and Brian too of course. :) Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit m

RE: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Hans Otten
Yes, i will try. Tomorrow i will download the doc file, ISDN is too slow. At work a 2Mb line is better! Hans -Original Message- From: Manuel Bilderbeek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 February 2001 16:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: v9938 databook scanned > I agree, jpg

RE: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Hans Otten
Yes, one bit is 2 colors. -Original Message- From: Sean Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 February 2001 16:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: v9938 databook scanned On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:06:46PM +0100, Hans Otten wrote: > I started converting to PDF by converting

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Sean Young
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:06:46PM +0100, Hans Otten wrote: > I started converting to PDF by converting all files from PNG color format > tot black and white. The resulting sum shrinks to 1.8 Mbyte. What's the colordepth? 1 bit? Sean -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.h

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek
> I agree, jpg is not the format you want for line art and text scans. There > you want a black and white lossless format. Not popular,here, but GIF is > very convenient in size. I did convert all PNG pictures to GIF and that made > it to the previously mentioned 1.8 Mb. TIFF is also good. Hans,

RE: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Hans Otten
I agree, jpg is not the format you want for line art and text scans. There you want a black and white lossless format. Not popular,here, but GIF is very convenient in size. I did convert all PNG pictures to GIF and that made it to the previously mentioned 1.8 Mb. TIFF is also good. Hans -- For

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek
> So much for the lossless compression with PNG. Enlarged, I also > noticed that the characters are not sharp enough to be recognized by > my OCR program (Iris). No really, nothing but space is lost by the That's not the fault of the PNG format, but of the too low resolution scans. > conversion

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Pierre Gielen
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:18:01 +0100, you wrote: >When the ocr program converted the picture to black and white i could even >see fingerprints. With this original using ocr will be a task. So much for the lossless compression with PNG. Enlarged, I also noticed that the characters are not sharp eno

RE: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Richard Atkinson
In my view, all we really need is someone to convert the scans into a single pdf file, so v9938.pdf can be viewed in Acrobat Reader. Most of the other MSX datasheets are in this format. Richard -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html

RE: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-22 Thread Hans Otten
Oh, that is easy. I volunteer. Hans -Original Message- From: Richard Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 February 2001 19:49 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: v9938 databook scanned In my view, all we really need is someone to convert the scans into a single pd

RE: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-21 Thread Hans Otten
2001 04:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: v9938 databook scanned Em sex, 16 fev 2001, Sean Young escreveu: > > > JPG is meant for photographs and nothing else. (Stuff with smooth color > > > gradients.) > > > > Why not 256 color (or even B&W) G

RE: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-21 Thread Hans Otten
Otten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 February 2001 19:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: v9938 databook scanned Oh, that is easy. I volunteer. Hans -Original Message- From: Richard Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 February 2001 19:49 To: '[EMAIL PROT

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-21 Thread JP Grobler
HI Here is the v9938 databook in (word?) format: http://ieee.d.umn.edu/~bsprange/files/v9938.doc it is a 37M download, but it is there! It is ons the page of Brian Spranger. He is building a games station. http://ieee.d.umn.edu/~bsprange/ PS I only found the url! JP Grobler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-20 Thread Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro
Em sex, 16 fev 2001, Sean Young escreveu: > > > JPG is meant for photographs and nothing else. (Stuff with smooth color > > > gradients.) > > > > Why not 256 color (or even B&W) GIFs? > > GIFs are evil. From http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/ : (...) Sorry, I forgot that "little probl

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-19 Thread Alex Wulms
] ``PNG was designed to be the successor to the once-popular GIF format, which ] became decidedly less popular right around New Year's Day 1995 when Unisys and ] CompuServe suddenly announced that programs implementing GIF would require ] royalties, because of Unisys' patent on the LZW compress

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Sean Young
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:27:09PM -0200, Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro wrote: > Em sex, 16 fev 2001, Manuel Bilderbeek escreveu: > > png = lossless, jpg = lossy > > > > JPG is meant for photographs and nothing else. (Stuff with smooth color > > gradients.) > > Why not 256 color (or even B&W)

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro
Em sex, 16 fev 2001, Manuel Bilderbeek escreveu: > > png = lossless, jpg = lossy > > JPG is meant for photographs and nothing else. (Stuff with smooth color > gradients.) Why not 256 color (or even B&W) GIFs? --

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek
> A plain ascii version would be nice. Then we can also add things and > correct mistakes. It's must faster to download and easy to read on an MSX. > > Nothing wrong with plain text IMHO. :-) Yep, please someone with time and OCR software: download it and process it to get a nice text file! :-

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Sean Young
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:04:55PM +0100, Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: > > png = lossless, jpg = lossy > > JPG is meant for photographs and nothing else. (Stuff with smooth color > gradients.) > > > with text this matters a lot. > > Yup. Maybe TIFF would be better, it features compression and lac

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Joost Yervante Damad
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:04:55PM +0100, Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: > > png = lossless, jpg = lossy > > JPG is meant for photographs and nothing else. (Stuff with smooth color > gradients.) > > > with text this matters a lot. > > Yup. Maybe TIFF would be better, it features compression and lac

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek
> png = lossless, jpg = lossy JPG is meant for photographs and nothing else. (Stuff with smooth color gradients.) > with text this matters a lot. Yup. Maybe TIFF would be better, it features compression and lacks the copyright problems of GIF. > > Another advantage is that you can view JPG'

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Floris 'Tamama' van Gog
png = lossless, jpg = lossy with text this matters a lot. later, Tam Pierre Gielen schreef: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:27:58 +0100, you wrote: > > >I'ts 13MB, zipped png files. > > Hi Sean, > > You can get half the size by converting the PNG files tot 256 color > JPG files and then putting the

Re: v9938 databook scanned

2001-02-16 Thread Pierre Gielen
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:27:58 +0100, you wrote: >I'ts 13MB, zipped png files. Hi Sean, You can get half the size by converting the PNG files tot 256 color JPG files and then putting them in a RAR archive. (6.868.605 bytes). Another advantage is that you can view JPG's on your MSX. Bye, Pier