MQA, generalized sampling and the lot (was: about subtractive dither, for audio and other use (also scientific))

2022-01-29 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2022-01-08, vicki melchior wrote: (I'm somewhat late to the fray, but hey, it's interesting stuff with which I'm well acquainted. Let the flamewars rage on.) MQA is based on finite rate of innovation sampling (and reconstruction) theory. Primary authors are M. Unser, M. Vetterli, P.L. Dr

Re: MQA, generalized sampling and the lot (was: about subtractive dither, for audio and other use (also scientific))

2022-01-30 Thread Zhiguang Zhang
a bit of an aside because i'm 1) not as technical as Sampo 2) not really working in pro-audio but this is also a point that someone wanted to make and I didn't want to reply with a canned response about MQA https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.php?p=15835460&postcount=460 On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at

Re: MQA, generalized sampling and the lot (was: about subtractive dither, for audio and other use (also scientific))

2022-01-30 Thread Ethan Duni
Very interesting and perceptive take as usual Sampo! On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:05 PM Sampo Syreeni wrote: > > You just cannot have compact support in > the time and frequency bases at the same time; this is in fact the most > basic form of the uncertainty principle (a mathematical theorem about

Re: MQA, generalized sampling and the lot (was: about subtractive dither, for audio and other use (also scientific))

2022-01-31 Thread STEFFAN DIEDRICHSEN
That seems to be a kind of watermarking. If you take a look at the spectrograms of the test signals used in this YT video (https://youtu.be/pRjsu9-Vznc), they seem to embed a band limited noise sequence which looks a bit like that. Maybe that’s the whole point of MQA: Put a kind of copy protect

Re: MQA, generalized sampling and the lot (was: about subtractive dither, for audio and other use (also scientific))

2022-01-31 Thread Andy Farnell
Good read Sampo, thanks for taking time to think and write clearly. Reminds me of that feeling when understanding Godel/Russell, of once solid ground feeling unsound beneath me. It's a reminder that the ways we "see" things is just one map, one set of tools. There's many ways to decompose and reco

Re: MQA, generalized sampling and the lot (was: about subtractive dither, for audio and other use (also scientific))

2022-01-31 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2022-01-31, STEFFAN DIEDRICHSEN wrote: That seems to be a kind of watermarking. If you take a look at the spectrograms  of the test signals used in this YT video (https://youtu.be/pRjsu9-Vznc), they seem to embed a band limited noise sequence which looks a bit like that. Maybe that’s the wh