Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-04 Thread Eric Brombaugh
IIRC, when I implemented Olli's coefficients I was seeing about 40dB image rejection. My optimized filter gave more like 58dB. Eric On Feb 4, 2017, at 7:25 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > sunuvubych Olli. i shoulda known about this. > > i dunno Eric, 2/100 radian is about ±0.5°. that'

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
� you know it's embarrassing to rediscover you've been somewhere before, after totally forgetting about it. so Olli, how do you get your coefficients? �(if i may ask?) r b-j� Original Message Subject: Re: [music-dsp] � 45� Hilbert tr

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
� sunuvubych Olli. i shoulda known about this. i dunno Eric, 2/100 radian is about �0.5�. �that's what Olli is indicating on Figure 3. �appears to be an 8th-order using 4 pole pairs about the origin on the real line. (i'm just now groking his design methodology.) and he seems to have exceeding

Re: [music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-04 Thread Eric Brombaugh
The original Csound source has a set of coefficients for this type of hilbert transform but they don't say how the coefficients were derived and the performance is fairly lackluster. The only reference I've come across for this was Olli Niemitalo's: http://yehar.com/blog/?p=368 He gives a bit

[music-dsp] ± 45° Hilbert transformer using pair of IIR APFs

2017-02-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
� hey guys, what's the best online reference you can tell me for theory and practice of designing APF pairs with � 45� phase (+ a linear phase that represents causality delay)�to result in a Hilbert pair for audio processing. �i know how to do this for FIR and to use half-band symmetry, but i