Re: [mb-style] (no subject)

2012-01-29 Thread pabouk
I agree with most of the contributors that the recording title should not follow the track title. If the track titles should follow what is written on album covers then we would lose means for tagging tracks using normalized titles. Unfortunately the current MB implementation makes creation of

Re: [mb-style] (no subject)

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 pabouk pab...@centrum.cz I agree with most of the contributors that the recording title should not follow the track title. If the track titles should follow what is written on album covers then we would lose means for tagging tracks using normalized titles. Did you see my

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread pabouk
symphonick wrote http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/releasenames_preRFC I certainly welcome the idea that both composers and performers should be credited at the release level. It is the right step forward! I noticed that you do not define the order (composer or performer first) and

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 pabouk pab...@centrum.cz symphonick wrote http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/releasenames_preRFC I certainly welcome the idea that both composers and performers should be credited at the release level. It is the right step forward! I noticed that you do not define the

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread SwissChris
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/29 pabouk pab...@centrum.cz symphonick wrote http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/releasenames_preRFC I certainly welcome the idea that both composers and performers should be credited at the release

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 SwissChris swissch...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/29 pabouk pab...@centrum.cz symphonick wrote http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/releasenames_preRFC I certainly welcome the idea that both composers and

[mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists will be in another RFC later). This RFC will expire on Sunday, February 5th. /symphonick

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread lorenz pressler
Am 29.01.2012, 16:50 Uhr, schrieb symphonick symphon...@gmail.com: I don't think that would help. even if we had our own release composers field, mp3-players media players would use the artist field anyway. We already have recording-performer ARs. Perhaps we can ask for a new feature in

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread lorenz pressler
the old CSG performer disambiguation (add performers to the title of the release and releasegroup) does not apply anymore. this is about recording AC so release or releasegrp is irrelevant. -- lorenz pressler PGP 0x92E9551A ___

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 lorenz pressler l...@gmx.at the old CSG performer disambiguation (add performers to the title of the release and releasegroup) does not apply anymore. this is about recording AC so release or releasegrp is irrelevant. Yeah, maybe it is superfluous here. It will be in the

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: Yes, it would be great if there were more fields available, but currently there's only one artist field. What we can do is ask editors to always begin with the composers: Wouldn't it be better to ask the developers for an additional artist field,

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists will be in another RFC later). This RFC will

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick rswarbr...@gmail.com symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: Yes, it would be great if there were more fields available, but currently there's only one artist field. What we can do is ask editors to always begin with the composers: Wouldn't it be better to

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick rswarbr...@gmail.com symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
sorry - I'm mixing things up here. disregard the AR stuff. 2012/1/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick rswarbr...@gmail.com symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits Thought this might be a good place

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: Recording credits track artists

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/28 Lemire, Sebastien m...@benji99.ca OK as long as we don't revert back to the composer then + 1 from me Sorry, I was mixing things up. I agree, I wouldn't want to repeat all performer ARs in the artist field. I'm updating the RFC now (see the new thread). /symphonick On Jan 28, 2012

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: I'm sceptical to if introducing a release composer field is a realistic solution. I suppose it has to be applied to the whole of mb also show up as a column in searches, otherwise we reintroduce the release disambiguation problem (by remove performers

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick rswarbr...@gmail.com symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: I'm sceptical to if introducing a release composer field is a realistic solution. I suppose it has to be applied to the whole of mb also show up as a column in searches, otherwise we reintroduce the

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread lorenz pressler
If the ARs had a featured artist flag maybe, then artist could show flagged performers + composers. You need to write something in the artist field when you enter the release though. /symphonick right now picard (XML webservice too? i'm not familiar with it) makes no difference between

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
I have updated http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSGv2/Recording/Artist (the examples exist in MB, but I'm not adding URLs as long as recording artist = composer) /symphonick 2012/1/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com sorry - I'm mixing things up here. disregard the AR stuff. 2012/1/29

Re: [mb-style] Pre RFC for release RG titles

2012-01-29 Thread Lemire, Sebastien
I already brought up this subject a few times on this ML. herehttp://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/CSG-Featured-Performer-and-Composer-to-Classical-RGs-td3776505.htmland herehttp://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/Pre-RFC-CSG-Artist-Credit-td373.html . I also don't like the idea of

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick rswarbr...@gmail.com symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick rswarbr...@gmail.com symphonick symphon...@gmail.com writes: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear anything

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: Recording credits track artists

2012-01-29 Thread Andii Hughes
On 29 January 2012 18:56, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/28 Lemire, Sebastien m...@benji99.ca OK as long as we don't revert back to the composer then + 1 from me Sorry, I was mixing things up. I agree, I wouldn't want to repeat all performer ARs in the artist field. I'm