On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:03:49 +0100, Kuno Woudt wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:38:02PM +0100, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
>> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11509568
>>
>> There's some disagreement about what to do with releases where the
>> titles appear in multiple languages on the co
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:58:17 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> his guideline has been in proposal, with some minor occasional edits,
> since before 2005; even Google isn't being helpful when it comes to
> trying to track down who originally started this one. (Perhaps DJKC?)
>
> http://wiki.
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:39:32 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> This proposal has been stalled for a year or so now, and the
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AudioBook_Style still is unofficial (and the
> wikipage is in need of some serious attention). Fridtjof or anyone else
> willing to get
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:36:26 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> A comment in a recent edit pointed this example out to me. Personally,
> it
> looks wrong, but I'm no expert on the artist, so I figured it's worth
> checking.
>
> "Collaborating Artists
>
>- *"Bob Dylan and The Band"* have so
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:50:20 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> Question: *Person* artists have genders. Should *group* artists also be
> allowed to have a gender? If so, what would a "male group", a "female
> group", or other group genders, pending decision of the other question,
> actua
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:21:08 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> RFC-79 Add release format: 10" vinyl
> RFC-80 Add release format: 12" vinyl
> RFC-78 Add release format: 7" vinyl
I'd be happy to champion these, though I'm not sure if there's much point.
Looking at the bug [1]
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:12:57 +0100, Lukáš Lalinský
wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:01 PM, neothe0ne wrote:
>>> From: SwissChris
>>> All I (and obviously Lukas) are asking for is a similar procedure for
>>> release formats.
>>
>> Do you really want me to go into MB and add 5 release events
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:56:38 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> It being done automatically doesn't sound too difficult. It does seem
> like something that should only be done once, though, rather than
> hitting IMDb every time. Perhaps, like the suggestion for the "has
> news at" propos
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:11:54 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> The idea behind Don't Make Relationship Clusters
> (http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Don%27t_Make_Relationship_Clusters) was
> that ARs can multiply quickly.
>
> For those that don't remember that guideline offhand a quick summary of
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:56:13 +0100, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, neothe0ne wrote:
> Brian: What is the current status of the definition of a "Work"? There
> is no way for us to decide which AR's should apply to Recordings or/and
> Works unless we know.
>
> F
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:58:53 +0200, Jan van Thiel
wrote:
> Recently, my edit http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=12875332
> was voted down. It was to rename "Go: The Very Best of Moby" to "Go -
> The Very Best of Moby". It is against
> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Subtitle_Style , but the "-
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:24:50 +0200, Andrew Conkling
wrote:
> I had an idea regarding BoxSetNameStyle, in the case where box sets'
> releases are also available individually.
>
> An example:
> http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/40ed05d3-8239-3d1a-a90a-543773898117.html
>
> has four rele
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:49:33 +0200, Tom Heady wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The comments I am confused about are here:
>
> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=13199172
>
> I was moving the release from the Special Purpose Artist '[Disney]' to
> Various artists, because there are multiple artists on th
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:13:35 +0200, Jeroen Latour wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A while back, there was a RFC to add a Writer Relationship Type to credit
> songwriters. That RFC was unfortunately abandoned, but I found it when I
> was
> wondering about what to do with 'Written By' credits on Discogs. In
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:07:46 +0530, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
> This is the third time this SG gets blocked at RFV stage. I wouldn't be
> surprised if Jeroen decided he did not care any more.
I'd rather an RFV dies than is steamrolled through without proper review.
That's obviously not what has
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:16:32 +0530, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
> 2010/10/28 SwissChris
>
>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria
>> > > wrote:
>>
>>> 2010/10/27 Aurélien Mino
>>>
>>> On 27/10/2010 02:39, SwissChris wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:29
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 01:37:46 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
>>
>> All guidelines we have are based on the principle that, when you have a
>>> physical media, the informations printed on the cover, the spine, the
>>> disc
>>> or the liners are among the most reliable available and can and shou
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:32:32 +0530, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
> 2010/10/30 Per Øyvind Øygard
>
>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 01:37:46 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> All guidelines we have are based on the principle that,
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:01:01 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
>>
>> It's not like the guidelines as they are written remove editor
>> discretion.
>>
>
> Actually, it did. The guideline said, "In particular, it should not be
> used
> if: ... There is only one writer credited for the song and
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:35:00 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
>> At the risk of sounding overly pendantic, I refer you to the RFC2119[1]:
>>
>> 3. SHOULD This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there
>>may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a
>>partic
> Q1. Should a work have an primary artist credit (AC) or are advanced
> relationships (ARs) more appropriate?
We shouldn't use explicit artist credits, they are notoriously inaccurate.
I'd rather see an informal "performer" list which can be used for lookups.
> Q2. What is your rationale for y
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:28:30 +0530, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
> 2010/11/11 SwissChris
>
>>
>>
>> 2010/11/11 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
>>
>> Sorry for not posting inline, I'm on the phone. Always requiring extra
>>> confirmation might be a bit too much. On an instrumental Techno track,
>>> fo
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:10:49 +0530, Jeroen Latour
wrote:
> One option for disambiguating works could be to add a Comment field, in
> the
> same way that Artists have one.
> Considering that everything that computers need to know is in the ARs,
> such
> a free text field might be enough for
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:08:24 +0530, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
> 2010/11/13 Per Øyvind Øygard
>
>> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:10:49 +0530, Jeroen Latour
>> wrote:
>>
>> > One option for disambiguating works could be to add a Comment field,
>> in
>&
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:24:13 +0530, Paul C. Bryan wrote:
> So, presuming ARs are the way forward, and disambiguation of works is
> the issue that needs resolution, to reach a consensus on how to
> disambiguate works, I'd like to survey the style council with the
> following questions:
>
> Q1. Sho
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:33:33 +0530, Per Øyvind Øygard
wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:24:13 +0530, Paul C. Bryan
> wrote:
>
>> So, presuming ARs are the way forward, and disambiguation of works is
>> the issue that needs resolution, to reach a consensus on how to
>&
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:19:38 +0530, Mika Heiska
wrote:
> My preference would be for real names. We don't really need more
> Japanese exceptions.
This has nothing to do with being japanese, other than being a bit more
common. Gorillaz has the same problem, and South Park, and Aqua Teen
Hung
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 02:19:40 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> That's rather a broad and incorrect summary. Just to take four of them,
> Micronesia has 110k residents, American Samoa has 65k, Guam has 178k,
> and Puerto Rico has close to 4 million.
>
> As to no bootlegs being applicable, I
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:42:28 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Per Øyvind Øygard
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 02:19:40 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That's rather a broad and incorrect
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:44:17 +0530, Jeroen Latour
wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> While discussing the RFC to add a Writer AR Type, it became clear that
> the
> guidelines we were discussing applied equally to other 'generic' AR
> types.
> In fact, the fact that these guidelines were specified on
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:55:50 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, these territories have their own entry in our release event
>> list,
>> have their own olympic teams, have no US voting rights, etc. etc., so
>> why
>> do you want to make special casing for bootleg titles? If anythin
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:42:29 +0530, Brian Schweitzer
wrote:
> Release Event Style already exists as a proposal championed by someone
> else, and it specifically is intended to replace Release Country Style.
> In any case, those deal with something entirely different; namely, the
> locati
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:21:14 +0530, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
wrote:
> Maybe some of this has been debated before, but as this mailing list is
> horribly annoying to search in, I'll just ask.
>
> In hip hop, it is usual that the person who creates the music is
> credited as
> "producer". In s
On 8 February 2011 17:08, Bogdan Butnaru wrote:
> (The idea *did* cross my mind, but it slipped before I thought to
> mention it. That’s because my music collection already has a lot of
> Unicode in it, and... well, even my phone doesn’t have any trouble
> with them (except for runes...), so it d
On 8 February 2011 18:04, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 02/08/2011 10:34 AM, Per Øyvind Øygard wrote:
> > My image viewer of choice (XnView) doesn't understand folder names with
> > exotic typography.
> >
> > Anyway, this is for me the crux of the problem. There's n
+1
With releases like the Fabric- and DJ Kicks-series it's somewhat laughable
to simply call them Compilations, as a lot of work is put into blending the
different tracks into one continuous work.
2011/9/22 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
> Question: Should a dj-mixed album / EP of new content be st
On 3 October 2011 13:52, Calvin Walton wrote:
>
> > * PerformanceNameRelationshipType
> This one is unchanged, and still applicable.
>
I'm curious how clustering applies to performance names, I can't think of a
single example. Aren't all performance names tied to a single real person?
>
>
On 3 October 2011 14:26, Calvin Walton wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 14:14 +0200, Per Øyvind Øygard wrote:
>
> > > * TranslationTransliterationRelationshipType
> > Not sure about how this applies. For a translated pseudo-release,
> it
> >
This isn't all that uncommon, Bon Iver and Sunset Rubdown spring to mind. I
think the best way is just to set the artist to group, and use dates to
signify memberships. Adding the original solo artist as founding member
should IMO suffice to indicate that it was at first a solo effort.
- Per / Wiz
On 24 October 2011 10:03, jesus2099 wrote:
> Majority is being america influenced on the net this is obvious even for
> french where many people is using american puctuation rules even if
> completely wrong. even the keyboard that we can buy in france are not
> really
> appropriate for french typ
2011/11/9 Lukáš Lalinský :
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, MeinDummy wrote:
>> This discussion seems to have faded out now.
>> There are many unresolved specific issues regarding covers, translations,
>> instrumentals, ... Most of them are beyond the remix work topic and should
>> probably be fu
On 15 November 2011 13:28, jacobbrett wrote:
>
> Valery wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> Many labels (Bear Family Records, Ace Records, Rhino Records etc.) issue a
>> specific type of releases usually named "The Complete Recordings" with a
>> period's and/or an original label's specification like "The De
On 18 November 2011 18:54, Alex Mauer wrote:
> Discussion on IRC[1] brought up the idea that perhaps it would be useful
> to remove the possibility of setting track durations from releases which
> don’t have clearly-defined track boundaries or durations (I believe this
> is mostly analog releases,
On 18 November 2011 22:00, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 11/18/2011 02:31 PM, Per Øyvind Øygard wrote:
>> My immediate feeling is that this would cause more problems than it
>> would solve. The primary advantage of having analog recording track
>> times is for recording merging pu
2011/11/14 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren :
> We already have a "Multiple Languages" option, but we lack "Multiple
> Scripts", which applies to several of the same places where we use
> multiple languages (it's not too strange to have Japanese scripts,
> Cyrillic or Arabic in the same release as Latin).
On 27 November 2011 23:42, jacobbrett wrote:
>
> Frederic Da Vitoria wrote
>>
>> 2011/11/24, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren :
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Rupert Swarbrick
>>> wrote:
Paul Taylor writes:
> Treating analog different to digital is a bad idea. But it might be
>
On Fri, 09 May 2008 15:07:48 +0200, Chad Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> BrianG has voted down an edit to remove a homeburnt disc ID at
> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8668756
>
The problem I have with this is that the concept of burning downloaded
music is in itself old fashio
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:34:40 +0200, ijabz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and then sometimes this is followed by a number like 4509-93067-0 (and
> sometimes not) , which is then reproduced with checksum as the barcode
> 745099306700
In my experience this is usually due to it actually being two cat#s
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:27:20 +0100, Bogdan Butnaru wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Paul C. Bryan wrote:
>> I'm naively going to ask the question, why not use numbering if the book
>> does, otherwise not?
>
> Exactly my point. Since there are books that don't have chapters at
> all, and
On 3 April 2012 22:15, Kuno Woudt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 02/04/12 17:23, Andii Hughes wrote:
>> Where I think things get fuzzy is if you have a title X on an album,
>> but a compilation lists "X (album version)" (i.e. there is not
>> cross-release agreement). Here I think "(album version)" is
>>
On 16 May 2012 20:37, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote:
> We have a problem currently with rap mixtapes, since they're not
> really compilations, but they're not really standard albums either
> (see the description for more). Until now, they tended to be entered
> either just as "Album", or just as
On 24 May 2012 09:54, jesus2099 wrote:
>
> Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote
>>
>> Indeed, this is my experience too - maxisingles *and* singles are
>> usually released for the same, well, single. Which means "maxi-single"
>> is, if anything, an attribute of the release, so this would indeed
>> need
On 28 May 2012 07:43, Kuno Woudt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 24/05/12 13:26, Per Øyvind Øygard wrote:
> > The Wikipedia page[1] has a
>> fairly good history, with some notable examples. While they're not
>> used much in the western world anymore, they're still com
On 27 June 2012 01:13, SwissChris wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:05 PM, practik wrote:
>>
>>
>> jesus2099 wrote
>> >
>> >
>> > practik wrote
>> >>
>> >> As Nicolás has pointed out on this mailing list and on Jira, the
>> >> English
>> >> word "song" can be used for music without vocals:
On 27 June 2012 11:46, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Per Øyvind Øygard wrote:
>> On 27 June 2012 01:13, SwissChris wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:05 PM, practik wrote:
>>>>
>>>
On 27 June 2012 17:09, practik wrote:
>
> Per Øyvind Øygard wrote
>>
>> So add Art song and [non-classical], and reset all Song works to
>> nothing.
>>
>
> This seems like a way forward, though I don't love [non-classical] because
> it injects a genr
I'm a bit hesitant, given that we'd be introducing a bunch of
non-musical works stubs into the database, but I'm warming up to the
idea. I can definitely see the value, given that we already link RGs
to imdb.com and such, we could instead link them to work entities. It
would make sense for [Audiobo
On 7 July 2012 12:31, Ian Weller wrote:
> This is RFC 134, which expires Sat Jul 14 2012.
>
> I am proposing adding these guidelines on adding radio programs to
> MusicBrainz:
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Ianweller/Radio_program_style
>
> Jira ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/
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