Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-09 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:03:27 +0200, Dave Smey wrote: Pointing out the fact that he really doesn't seem to have much experience with Classical music was a justified criticism, IMO. (Perhaps he will learn from the experience and not be so arrogant - though I admit that's pretty unlikely.) I don'

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-03 Thread Dave Smey
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 12:11:14PM -0400, Aaron Cooper wrote: >> >> Don't be a jerk - no one likes fights on the mailing lists. > On Tue, October 3, 2006 6:49 pm, David Gibson said: > Quite. > It's funny, I'm quite comfortable being labeled a jerk, but this interpretation of how things played ou

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-03 Thread David Gibson
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 12:11:14PM -0400, Aaron Cooper wrote: > On 10/3/06, Dave Smey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I find it rather interesting to see the reaction being overly against my > >> comments. Here's the way I see it. > >> > >> - new contributor makes first post > > > >Actually,

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-03 Thread Aaron Cooper
On 10/3/06, Dave Smey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it rather interesting to see the reaction being overly against my > comments. Here's the way I see it. > > - new contributor makes first post Actually, you did not make the first post - the conversation on this topic was well under way

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-03 Thread Dave Smey
> > I find it rather interesting to see the reaction being overly against my > comments. Here's the way I see it. > > - new contributor makes first post Actually, you did not make the first post - the conversation on this topic was well under way and you arrived quite late. > - same person start

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-03 Thread Christopher Aillon
David Gibson wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:46:49PM -0400, Christopher Aillon wrote: [snip] The way it is not "a win" is that the recording of Bach Violin Concerti will no longer be collected together with the other recordings of Bach Violin Concerti. Why won't it? As I understand it, it wil

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-03 Thread Christopher Aillon
Alexander Dupuy wrote: Christopher Aillon replies to Dave Smey: Clearly you aren't a classical music fan. Many composers have such a wide array of material that "I'm in the mood for some Bach" might as well be "I'm in the mood to listen to music." Which Bach? C.P.E perhaps. Maybe C.F, o

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-03 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2006/10/3, David Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:46:49PM -0400, Christopher Aillon wrote:[snip]> >The way it is not "a win" is that the recording of Bach Violin Concerti> >will no longer be collected together with the other recordings of Bach > >Violin Concerti.>> Why won't i

[mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread Alexander Dupuy
Christopher Aillon replies to Dave Smey: Clearly you aren't a classical music fan. Many composers have such a wide array of material that "I'm in the mood for some Bach" might as well be "I'm in the mood to listen to music." Which Bach? C.P.E perhaps. Maybe C.F, or J.C. Seriously, class

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread David Gibson
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:46:49PM -0400, Christopher Aillon wrote: [snip] > >The way it is not "a win" is that the recording of Bach Violin Concerti > >will no longer be collected together with the other recordings of Bach > >Violin Concerti. > > Why won't it? As I understand it, it will still s

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread Christopher Aillon
Dave Smey wrote: On Mon, October 2, 2006 5:46 pm, Christopher Aillon said: Why won't it? As I understand it, it will still show up in the exact same spot it shows up in Bach's artist page right now. Or is there something blatantly obvious that I'm missing? Well, yes. The ARs currently look

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread Dave Smey
On Mon, October 2, 2006 5:46 pm, Christopher Aillon said: > > Why won't it? As I understand it, it will still show up in the exact > same spot it shows up in Bach's artist page right now. Or is there > something blatantly obvious that I'm missing? > Well, yes. The ARs currently look like ass, fo

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread Christopher Aillon
Dave Smey wrote: Hi Chris, Bach may have written the music, and thus, should be credited for each track, but he didn't put the album together. What you don't seem to understand is that, in general, this is the case with all classical music. The person who composed it is (usually) dead, and s

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread Dave Smey
Hi Chris, > Bach may have written the music, and thus, should be > credited for each track, but he didn't put the album together. What you don't seem to understand is that, in general, this is the case with all classical music. The person who composed it is (usually) dead, and some performer pic

[mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread Christopher Aillon
Thanks for starting this davitor. It wasn't exactly what I intended, though. Let me explain further. I don't want to strip Bach of credit on the album. The way I propose it, the release will still show up in his artist page. I want to have the album artist as Hilary Hahn and each track att

RE: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread P. HarryE. Coenen
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Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-02 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2006/10/1, Dave Smey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sun, October 1, 2006 12:08 pm, Dave Smey said:>>> 2 - Should specifically VA releases where the title puts a strong accent>> on>> the performer be stored under the performer?>> >> Yes.  I believe this is the current practice, with a description buried> s

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Dave Smey
On Sun, October 1, 2006 12:08 pm, Dave Smey said: > >> 2 - Should specifically VA releases where the title puts a strong accent >> on >> the performer be stored under the performer? >> > > Yes. I believe this is the current practice, with a description buried > somewhere deep in the wiki. > OK, I

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2006/10/1, Dave Smey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I think I'm in total agreement with Frederic here.>> About edit 5674932>> caillon says that since ARs now can give the composer, it makes sense to> put> this release under Hilary Hahn. Indeed, in many cd stores, Various Artists > classical releases are sort

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Dave Smey
On Sun, October 1, 2006 5:44 am, David Gibson said: > On the other hand, there are other multiple-composer, single-performer > releases where the performers get similar or somewhat more prominent > billing which don't really make sense under the performer. > e.g. > http://musicbrainz.org/release/0

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Dave Smey
I think I'm in total agreement with Frederic here. > > About edit 5674932 > > caillon says that since ARs now can give the composer, it makes sense to > put > this release under Hilary Hahn. Indeed, in many cd stores, Various Artists > classical releases are sorted by performer, and I am not sure

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread David Gibson
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:33:36AM +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > Hello > > About edit 5674932 > > caillon says that since ARs now can give the composer, it makes sense to put > this release under Hilary Hahn. Indeed, in many cd stores, Various Artists > classical releases are sorted by perf

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2006/10/1, Arturus Magi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 1 - Should this release (and releases where the title puts a strong accent> on the performer) be stored under the performer?>> 2 - Should specifically VA releases where the title puts a strong accent on > the performer be stored under the performer?>1

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Arturus Magi
1 - Should this release (and releases where the title puts a strong accent on the performer) be stored under the performer? 2 - Should specifically VA releases where the title puts a strong accent on the performer be stored under the performer? 1) I'd take it on a case-by-case basis. Usually

Re: [mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Nathan Noble
I don't believe "strong accent on the performer" could ever be well-defined. In fact, the release I'm currently entering emphasizes performer (Chanticleer), but the artist (Ignacio de Jerusalem) is prominent on the cover too. It has two tracks by another composer. -Nate --- Frederic Da Vitori

[mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

2006-10-01 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
HelloAbout edit 5674932caillon says that since ARs now can give the composer, it makes sense to put this release under Hilary Hahn. Indeed, in many cd stores, Various Artists classical releases are sorted by performer, and I am not sure some stores wouldn't put this release at Hilary Hahn. So two q