Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names

2014-08-26 Thread jesus2099
Even a fictious name, David Bowie should be sorted in Bowie, not in David. I don’t think there should be difference in sort names just because it’s a real name or not. Same for fictional characters, Sherlock Holmes is sorted in H. -  PATATE12   jesus2099   GOLD MASTER KING   FAKE E-MAIL 

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names -- sort name enthusiasts unite!

2014-08-24 Thread Per Starbäck
I wrote that the traditional way to sort fictitious names like Scrooge McDuck is on the whole name, as Musicbrainz explicitly did earlier, and that it's bad that when Musicbrainz intended to change that and sort as real names, with RFC 203, it did it by just deleting that part of the guide, so

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names -- sort name enthusiasts unite!

2014-08-24 Thread Trevor Downs
It seems straightforward to me. Just sort the names as you would any other name., last name, first name. So if a character doesn’t have a last name, then it would just be treated the same as a single name performance artist. On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Per Starbäck per.starb...@gmail.com

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names

2014-08-20 Thread Calvin Walton
On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 21:12 +0200, Per Starbäck wrote: Earlier a fictitious name like Mickey Mouse should be sorted as Mickey Mouse, and not Mouse, Mickey as if it was a real person, but RFC 203 aimed to change that. See

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names

2014-08-20 Thread Kuno Woudt
Hello, On 20-08-14 16:23, Calvin Walton wrote: On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 21:12 +0200, Per Starbäck wrote: Earlier a fictitious name like Mickey Mouse should be sorted as Mickey Mouse, and not Mouse, Mickey as if it was a real person, but RFC 203 aimed to change that. See

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names -- sort name enthusiasts unite!

2014-08-13 Thread caller#6
On 08/12/2014 03:00 PM, Per Starbäck wrote: Earlier a fictitious name like Mickey Mouse should be sorted as Mickey Mouse, and not Mouse, Mickey as if it was a real person, but RFC 203 aimed to change that. I think you're conflating two issues: fictitious names vs names of fictional

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names -- fictitious vs fictional

2014-08-12 Thread Per Starbäck
Earlier a fictitious name like Mickey Mouse should be sorted as Mickey Mouse, and not Mouse, Mickey as if it was a real person, but RFC 203 aimed to change that. I think you're conflating two issues: fictitious names vs names of fictional characters Fictional characters: Mickey Mouse

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names -- fictitious vs fictional

2014-08-04 Thread caller#6
On 08/03/2014 12:12 PM, Per Starbäck wrote: Earlier a fictitious name like Mickey Mouse should be sorted as Mickey Mouse, and not Mouse, Mickey as if it was a real person, but RFC 203 aimed to change that. I think you're conflating two issues: fictitious names vs names of fictional

[mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names

2014-08-03 Thread Per Starbäck
Earlier a fictitious name like Mickey Mouse should be sorted as Mickey Mouse, and not Mouse, Mickey as if it was a real person, but RFC 203 aimed to change that. See http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2010-March/008876.html where that is mentioned, and

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names

2014-08-03 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
I would probably sort Mickey Mouse as Mickey Mouse, mostly because I didn't think Mouse there was supposed to represent anything similar to a surname (does it? :/). Same as I wouldn't sort Ghostface Killah as Killah, Ghostface. But I'd sort an actual fictional *name* like I would a real one. To be

Re: [mb-style] Sorting of fictitious names

2014-08-03 Thread Per Starbäck
I definitely support using traditional sorting of names regardless of whether th subject is real or fictional. This is formulated in an unfortunate way, since the traditional way *is* what I wrote -- to sort fictional names without any name reversal. You will find it hard to find any book