[mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-04 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Since NGS I'm often finding myself trying to decide what to do with tracks/recordings performed by multiple artists. As an example see track 1-11 of http://musicbrainz.org/release/8144cf86-4619-4125-bec0-3d45badc9ff3 On the cover this says "Light Of My Life (與Lara Fabian合唱)", where (與Lara Fabian合

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-05 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > Since NGS I'm often finding myself trying to decide what to do with > tracks/recordings performed by multiple artists. As an example see > track 1-11 of > http://musicbrainz.org/release/8144cf86-4619-4125-bec0-3d45badc9ff3 It clearly nee

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-05 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
2011/6/5 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> Since NGS I'm often finding myself trying to decide what to do with >> tracks/recordings performed by multiple artists. As an example see >> track 1-11 of >> http://musicbrainz.org/release/8144cf86-

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Austin
On 05/06/2011 20:06, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > > This seems set up for an inconsistent mess, so I'm perhaps leaning > towards *not* moving featured artists to the artist credit on the > recording level. It would be interesting to hear the NGS masterminds' > thinking about this issue. > I think a d

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-05 Thread Calvin Walton
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 23:56 +0100, Simon Austin wrote: > On 05/06/2011 20:06, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > > > > This seems set up for an inconsistent mess, so I'm perhaps leaning > > towards *not* moving featured artists to the artist credit on the > > recording level. It would be interesting to hea

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread lorenz pressler
Simon Austin-3 wrote: > > I think a decision needs to be made... I've seen a few cases of > tracklists already changed from Song (feat. Y) by X to Song by Y feat. X. > yes i like that and i thought that was one of the reaseons NGS happened. artist credits are just perfect to move the 'feat. X'

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:13, lorenz pressler wrote: > > Simon Austin-3 wrote: >> >> I think a decision needs to be made... I've seen a few cases of >> tracklists already changed from Song (feat. Y) by X to Song by Y feat. X. >> > > yes i like that and i thought that was one of the reaseons NGS ha

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:13, lorenz pressler wrote: >> >> Simon Austin-3 wrote: >>> >>> I think a decision needs to be made... I've seen a few cases of >>> tracklists already changed from Song (feat. Y) by X to Song by Y feat. X. >>> >>

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Austin
Contraiwise NGS also added a split between recording and track title, with the ability to standardise the recording title and make the track title more like the cover. The cover for Basement Jaxx's Kish Kash is practically a blueprint for the old "Track (feat. Person)" style http://www.discogs.

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:45, Simon Austin wrote: > Contraiwise NGS also added a split between recording and track title, > with the ability to standardise the recording title and make the track > title more like the cover. The cover for Basement Jaxx's Kish Kash is > practically a blueprint for t

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:45, Simon Austin wrote: >> Contraiwise NGS also added a split between recording and track title, >> with the ability to standardise the recording title and make the track >> title more like the cover. The cover

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:45, Simon Austin wrote: >>> Contraiwise NGS also added a split between recording and track title, >>> with the ability to standardise the recording title and make the trac

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
"recent edits have made all the track and recording titles into "Track" by Basement Jaxx > feat. > Person.http://musicbrainz.org/release/242e5f1c-2755-3217-ad0d-f9b1b5652b15"; Recent autoedits which break the feat. artist guideline and contradict the album cover. What's going on here? -- Andii :

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:45, Simon Austin wrote: Contraiwise NGS also added a split between recording and track title, with

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-06 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : >>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenstedt >>> wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:45, Simon Austin wrote: > Contraiwise NGS also added a sp

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread lorenz pressler
i think in your edit-discussion you came to an agreeable solution for a future guideline. - on recording lvl: move all (feat. X) to artist credits - on release lvl: as close to cover/sleeve as possible ("feat. X" in tracktitel included) imho it's a pity not to use these new artists credit possibi

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : >>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenstedt >>> wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:45, Simon Austin wrote: > Contraiwise NGS also added a sp

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2011/6/6, Dr Andrew John Hughes : > 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt >> wrote: >>> 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:45, Simon Austin w

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >>> 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > 2011/6/6, Dr Andrew John Hughes : >> 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : >>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt >>> wrote: 2011/6/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren : > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Philip Jägenst

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 7 June 2011 08:04, lorenz pressler wrote: > i think in your edit-discussion you came to an agreeable solution for a > future guideline. > > - on recording lvl: move all (feat. X) to artist credits > - on release lvl: as close to cover/sleeve as possible ("feat. X" in > tracktitel included) > >

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 15:12, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > On 7 June 2011 08:04, lorenz pressler wrote: >> i think in your edit-discussion you came to an agreeable solution for a >> future guideline. >> >> - on recording lvl: move all (feat. X) to artist credits >> - on release lvl: as close to

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-07 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 15:12, Dr Andrew John Hughes > wrote: >> On 7 June 2011 08:04, lorenz pressler wrote: >>> i think in your edit-discussion you came to an agreeable solution for a >>> future guideline. >>> >>> - on recording lvl: mo

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-09 Thread Kuno Woudt
Hello, On 07/06/11 09:05, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > Are we getting a cover scan feature? Do you have more information > about this? That would be extremely helpful for proof-reading edits. ruaok is in discussion with the archive.org people to cooperate on a cover art archive. no code has been w

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-09 Thread Kuno Woudt
Hello, On 05/06/11 21:06, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > 2011/6/5 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren: > > The problem is in interpreting the cover. What is the distinction > between an artist being mentioned in a comment on the sleeve and being > credited as an artist. Consider these (fictional) examples: >

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:10, Kuno Woudt wrote: > Hello, > > On 05/06/11 21:06, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> 2011/6/5 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren: >> >> The problem is in interpreting the cover. What is the distinction >> between an artist being mentioned in a comment on the sleeve and being >> credi

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 20:07, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > I guess you'd want to normalize capitalization as well, I'm > really not sure about that bit... Disregard that bit, I think it's luks that's been arguing for that :) -- Philip Jägenstedt ___ M

Re: [mb-style] feat. style and track/recording artist

2011-06-10 Thread jacobbrett
Kuno Woudt wrote: > > Hello, > > On 05/06/11 21:06, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> 2011/6/5 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren: >> >> The problem is in interpreting the cover. What is the distinction >> between an artist being mentioned in a comment on the sleeve and being >> credited