Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Andrew D. Arenson
The issue has resolved itself without me taking any action! Thanks to those who offered advice. Particular thanks to those who pointed out that I had made the boneheaded move to post my password base-64 encoded on this list. The password has been changed. Andy On

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:42:20AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: If by "the docs" you're referring only to the man pages, vs. the Mutt wiki and other online docs, you're right that they don't explicitly mention that it can refer to a remote mailbox. Obviously the manual was not updated when the

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 02:25:41PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:18:48AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > ...I agree the docs could make it more clear. > > The docs never mention it, not even once. If by "the docs" you're referring only to the man pages, vs. the

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread John Hawkinson
Kurt Hackenberg wrote on Thu, 20 Jun 2024 at 14:25:41 EDT in : > The docs never mention it, not even once. You need to read more broadly: "If your spool mailbox is in a non-default place where Mutt cannot find it, you can specify its location with this variable." Once you understand "spool

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:18:48AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: ...I agree the docs could make it more clear. The docs never mention it, not even once.

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 02:14:40PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:56:28AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > The variable spoolfile has nothing to do with IMAP, and does not affect > > > it. > > > > I disagree; from what I can see, the _naming_ of $spoolfile is

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:56:28AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: The variable spoolfile has nothing to do with IMAP, and does not affect it. I disagree; from what I can see, the _naming_ of $spoolfile is vestigal and comes from before mutt supported IMAP, but it _does_ affect mutt's behavior,

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 01:25:33PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:11:36AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > I believe that's unnecessary, and kind of wrong. That variable > > > spoolfile is for incoming mail delivered into local files on the > > > computer where Mutt

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:11:36AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: I believe that's unnecessary, and kind of wrong. That variable spoolfile is for incoming mail delivered into local files on the computer where Mutt runs (eg, /var/mail/freduser, or ~freduser/Maildir). IMAP is entirely different,

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > I believe that's unnecessary, and kind of wrong. That variable spoolfile is > for incoming mail delivered into local files on the computer where Mutt runs > (eg, /var/mail/freduser, or ~freduser/Maildir). IMAP is entirely

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 11:43:54PM -0400, Andrew D Arenson wrote: Today, after working for years, my IMAP connection to Dreamhost has started hanging when I attempt to send an email, showing a message like: "Sending message... 0K/0.4K (0%)". Sure looks like Dreamhost had a problem. (Does it

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Andy Arenson
Thanks! I had seen this notice, but unfortunately, my problems have persisted.I have asked their support to share what went wrong and how they fixed it to see if I can identify how that might have affected mutt's attempt to use their SMTP server.Andyfrom mobileOn Jun 20, 2024 11:35, José María

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Rene Kita
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 08:08:22AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: [snip discussion about OAuth support] > All that said, while I know active development is pretty much on pause, > and while it's unclear to me whether XOAUTH2 itself is a standard, I > think it is (IMO) important that mutt somehow

Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread José María Mateos
On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 11:43:54PM -0400, Andrew D Arenson wrote: Today, after working for years, my IMAP connection to Dreamhost has started hanging when I attempt to send an email, showing a message like: "Sending message... 0K/0.4K (0%)". Looks like Dreamhost had problems with their mail

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 07:38:50AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:06:54AM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: > > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the > > > creation of app passwords). > > > > If I

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Nuno Silva via Mutt-users
On 2024-06-20, Christian Brabandt wrote: > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > >> (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the >> creation of app passwords). > > If I recall correctly google is transitioning away from using app > passwords later this year. A quick google

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:06:54AM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > > > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the > > creation of app passwords). > > If I recall correctly google is transitioning away from using app > passwords

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

2024-06-20 Thread Christian Brabandt
On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the > creation of app passwords). If I recall correctly google is transitioning away from using app passwords later this year. A quick google turned up this doc:

Re: Re: Display links in w3m output

2024-06-20 Thread Jan Eden via Mutt-users
On 2024-06-19 15:31, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 07:25:48AM +0200, Jan Eden via Mutt-users wrote: > > text/html; w3m -dump -I %{charset} -T text/html -o display_link_number=1 > > %s; copiousoutput; > > Aside from the lynx suggestion that someone posted, I think "urlview" is >

Re: Re: Handing on attempt to send

2024-06-20 Thread Jan Eden via Mutt-users
On 2024-06-20 01:20, Andrew D Arenson wrote: > Just to add -- I have, indeed, tried both port 587 and port 465 -- same > results. > > Point about this being SMTP and not IMAP is noted. Thanks! Could it be that the SMTP server's certificate changed, so the TLS connection fails because mutt