Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-27 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 10:07:41 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Are you using maildir? Have been from the start. I use offlineimap to sync my mail from a number of accounts and then let mutt work with those. --Ben

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 21:59:43 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Er, um, that is what I'm using - and have been using for more years > than I like to remember! Hmm. The dates I have in my folder listing seem to be "last modified" including messages being added or removed: 0.1K Sep 26 11:55

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 20:29:22 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > They're on a fast SSD on the same system as mutt is running on so > 'very expensive' is probably not an issue. Typical tools like `ls` don't know that. GUI browsers might be smarter, but that hasn't been consistent IME. Not sure about

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 17:02:08 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > However there is a minor downside in the file browser (well directory > browser really isn't it), the information shown against the > directories (at the bottom level these are maildir mailboxes) is > pretty useless, what I am seeing now

Re: Using Maildir format, changing mailbox

2020-06-05 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 07:33:04 -0700, Felix Finch wrote: > Out of curiosity, could you show your offlineimap usage? I have a > manually generated list of mboxes. It doesn't change often, but it > would be nice to do it "properly". I looked at offlineimap some time > ago, and again just now,

Re: Using Maildir format, changing mailbox

2020-06-05 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 16:15:10 +0200, mutt...@mail.com wrote: > What I'd like is that when I press '?' I get a list of *mailboxes* > rather than directories, because, as a user, I'm really not interested > in directories, I only want to know about mailboxes. See the `mailboxes` command.

Re: IMAP && Server certificate has expired

2020-05-31 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 16:43:23 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Doesn't this mean that something on my local system (FreeBSD with > OpenSSL, both from end of 2018) is outdated? > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD c720-r342378 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT GENERIC amd64 > > $ openssl version > OpenSSL

Re: IMAP && Server certificate has expired

2020-05-31 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 15:20:51 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Server certificate has expired > This certificate belongs to: >AddTrust External CA Root >Unknown >AddTrust AB >AddTrust External TTP Network >Unknown >Unknown >SE Your ISP has been affected by this:

Re: Conditional FCC

2020-05-01 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 15:36:10 +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote: > folder-hook foo 'set record = /dev/null' You also need a catch-all folder-hook to reset it if you leave that folder (as the setting is not scoped to your use of folders which match). Basically, for things like this, every folder

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-08 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 00:26:43 +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 03:08:45PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 14:43:47 -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > >> Please remember that Google reads your mail. > > https://mako.cc/copyrighteo

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-08 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 14:43:47 -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2020-04-07 22:18, Derek Martin wrote: > > > Then again, maybe I should just move everything to gmail and be done > > with it. > > Please remember that Google reads your mail. I have been migrating to fastmail for my stuff

Re: Opening URLs from mutt (was: Creating HTML emails with mutt)

2019-10-28 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 00:10:09 +, Dave Woodfall wrote: > Urlview handles long and short links just fine. I've been using it > for over 10 years. One issue I have with it is that context is lost. Marketing emails today tend to be massive strings with embedded IDs in them. Telling one from

Re: providing imap_pass but not from ~/.muttrc

2019-06-13 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 20:56:33 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I often use SSH to connect to my rented VM space of my ISP (which gets me to a > Linux server) and I do use mutt from there to check my mails or even to > answer, esp. when I do not have my FreeBSD netbook with full Internet and all >

Re: order of sending mail and saving to fcc

2019-06-10 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 08:40:30 -0700, Felix Finch wrote: > As other(s) have mentioned, power failure, cat jumping on keyboard. I > have also had sends hang seemingly forever, and the only way forward > is tokill the tmux session. Then I have no Fcc copy. I can root > around /tmp to find the

Re: order of sending mail and saving to fcc

2019-06-04 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 12:30:59 +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > I considered the previous order (save to fcc, then send the mail) > always the correct one. If anything bad happens (network connectivity > failing (in case of imap), computer crashing,...), it seems to > produce the better

Re: Saving sent e-mails in INBOX for better threading?

2019-03-28 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 13:24:22 +0100, Max Görner wrote: > I am a very pleased Mutt user for several years now. However, I would love to > have a threading similar to GMail, showing send and received messages in the > same thread. Well, GMail and Mutt threading is different. Mutt uses Message-Id

Re: Local mail agent suggestions (gmail -> local postgres -> {local IMAP+SMTP} <-> mutt)?

2019-01-22 Thread Ben Boeckel
tools built-in for outside-of-mutt searching. Example output here: % notmuch search mutt-dev thread:00013927 2015-02-25 [1/1] Mutt; [Mutt] #3740: multi-byte characters not handled in query window (inbox) thread:000138f4 2015-01-22 [5/5] Ben Boeckel, David Champion, V

Re: Hang on startup

2018-10-15 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 12:42:27 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > Mutt performs a DNS lookup using gethostname() and getaddrinfo() to try > to find out the host's FQDN. If you are hanging, it could be this is > not configured correctly. > > Adding a line to /etc/hosts with a FQDN may help: >

Hang on startup

2018-10-15 Thread Ben Boeckel
Hi, I've been experiencing this for a while and I'd like to get to the bottom of it. When starting `mutt`, sometimes it hangs for a long time before drawing the UI (input is appropriately buffered though). Is there some network call done on startup or other I/O (`strace` shows that it is in the

Re: Is there a way to record b[ounced] messages in sentmail?

2018-09-19 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 15:41:01 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I occasionally us b[ounce] to resend a message to a different > recipient, e.g. I just sent a message to an estate agent and got an > 'out of office' reply so I b[ounced] it to another person at the same > estate agent. > > It would be

Re: hide identical mails within the same thread

2018-01-23 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 01:58:04 +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > No, the resulting mailbox can be made to be writable: if you use the > mutt-notmuch script, just change the below to > : Ah, indeed. I'll keep it readonly for me since it actually doesn't do much to be read/write anyways. Thanks,

Re: hide identical mails within the same thread

2018-01-22 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 20:49:13 +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > That would still require to have identical e-mails in more than one > mailbox... It happens with gmail when an email has more than one label. --Ben

Re: hide identical mails within the same thread

2018-01-22 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 15:32:50 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > Why not just delete the duplicate e-mails? > > That would seem to be a more efficient way of "always hiding them". The problem arises when using notmuch to find emails across all mailboxes and create a new mailbox with the results.

Re: find matched message in all mailboxes and put them into a separate mailbox

2018-01-18 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 13:19:22 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > the OP has mbox which notmuch doesn't support OP said that it's maildir: On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 05:29:38PM +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > Oh, I am using Maildir. So maybe some standalone script will help? --Ben

Re: find matched message in all mailboxes and put them into a separate mailbox

2018-01-18 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 17:29:38 +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > I know one can hit / or l (i.e., limit) and then apply a search pattern to > search for messages in the current mailbox. But can we apply this to multiple > mailboxes? I would like to search for matched messages in all mailboxes and >

Re: Possible to not leave pager if up on first or down on last message?

2017-12-22 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 19:38:15 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On the contrary, Ben's key bindings do keep you in the pager, > substituting line up/down for message up/down. (It's something which > I've also adopted long ago, as the default is alien.) They're Todd's, not mine :) . It makes it

Re: Possible to not leave pager if up on first or down on last message?

2017-12-20 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 14:14:38 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > I think you want the pager_stop? variable: > > 3.169. pager_stop > > Type: boolean > Default: no > > When set, the internal-pager will not move to the next > message when you are at the end of a message and

Re: Inermittant error downloading gmail to mutt

2017-12-05 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 16:46:02 +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote: > sslcertpath '***' No, gmail has rotated their top-level certificates. You'll need a new certificate chain. Attached is the one I extracted yesterday. --Ben -BEGIN CERTIFICATE-

Re: Refreshing ancient MIME/IMAP memories

2017-11-15 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 03:28:17 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > So I am asking if someone could kindly refresh my memory on exactly > what IMAP servers do to email they store. Memory says they do not > pre-process messages to break out attachments; that it is not possible > for mutt to only

Re: Mutt on Windows 10 using WSL

2017-02-01 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 19:39:33 +, Paul McCormack wrote: > The only issue that I am having is that I cannot launch Windows executables > from the bash prompt, so I cannot get my GUI mailcaps to fire. The same issue > is described here, but there is no useful response: >

Re: Are there any good/recommended address book add-ons for mutt other than abook?

2017-01-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 18:25:10 +, Chris Green wrote: > Yes, but (as I said) they're not in the Ubuntu repositories so I'd > need to check and update manually - which I'll forget. Odd. It's in Debian: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=khard > But what do you update with

Re: Are there any good/recommended address book add-ons for mutt other than abook?

2017-01-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 16:28:14 +, Chris Green wrote: > So, I was wondering if there are any more elegant approaches. I guess > abook itself is a possibility but I'd really prefer a GUI to add and > change addresses, it's a place where a GUI is just better and easier. > > What I'm after is

Re: How do you survive without notmuch?

2016-04-07 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:55:10 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Probably fixed in modern shells. How long have you been shell scripting? (I > also consider it a bug; the incantation is a workaround.) I first landed in *nix land with Fedora Core 5 (2005 or 2006, I forget which), was doing shell

Re: How do you survive without notmuch?

2016-04-06 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 09:38:43 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > For historic reasons, "$@" evaluates to a single "" if there were no > arguments > at all, introducing a spurious new empty argument. Possibly the thinking was > that something like "$@" should never vanish; after all "$x" will

Re: How do you survive without notmuch?

2016-04-05 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 12:47:03 -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > I am so used to using notmuch integrated into mutt (via mutt-kz), that > I would like to be able to understand how someone does *not* use > notmuch. How do you search for a certain message? Is it simply a > matter of the following? I don't

Re: List reply + group reply combined

2016-02-04 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 23:22:53 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > The group of list members who are listed CC recipients who "might be > interested in this", receive individual "courtesy copies" in addition to > the list copy, which is often more than they want, as it is.¹ Mailman has an option

Re: Press any key to continue

2015-09-21 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 14:41:08 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > I have: > > set wait_key=no > > In principle you can write macros to turn this on (or off) around specific > actions. Vim has the "silent" command. Maybe Mutt could have a similar one for such command executions. Having to

Re: Press any key to continue

2015-09-21 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:32:02 -0500, David Champion wrote: > set my_wait_key=$wait_key > unset wait_key > set wait_key=$my_wait_key Well, that looks nasty, but it works: macro generic \Cy \ ":set my_wait_key = $wait_key:unset wait_keykillall -USR1 offlineimap:set wait_key =

Changing directory via command

2015-09-16 Thread Ben Boeckel
Hi, I would like to use mutt as an email sender, but I have multiple accounts set up within it which set variables such as "record" and "from" based on folder-hooks. Is there a command I can give mutt on the command line via "-e" to trigger these hooks? Trying to do "change-folder