RE: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-09 Thread Wm Mussatto
On Thu, June 9, 2011 11:59, Jerry Schwartz wrote: > > >> >>A single table is always consistent. Data inconsistency occurs in sets of >>interrelated tables, in other words, on the database level. >> > [JS] Not even a single table is always consistent (unless there is > transactions). Consider a

RE: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-09 Thread Jerry Schwartz
> >A single table is always consistent. Data inconsistency occurs in sets of >interrelated tables, in other words, on the database level. > [JS] Not even a single table is always consistent (unless there is transactions). Consider a single transaction that consists of two steps: 1. Delete recor

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-09 Thread Karen Abgarian
Hi! Inline, again. On Jun 9, 2011, at 4:58 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote: > True, but I have never seen an application that checks for inconsistency in > it's tables. Making sure all users have stopped using the app ensures no > in-flight transactions, and then you have a consistent database - s

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-09 Thread Johan De Meersman
- Original Message - > From: "Karen Abgarian" > > This however means that the resulting snapshot will be consistent. > The fact of taking a backup really cannot create more consistency > than what the application has by design. If the application inserts > related rows in say two relate

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-09 Thread Karen Abgarian
Hello, comments inline. Regards, Karen. > > > I checked up in the mean time, and it does not make a truly consistent backup > of MyISAM - it locks all tables - yes, ALL tables - and then copies the > files. Given that MyISAM doesn't support transactions, that means that any > "transactions" (

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-07 Thread Johan De Meersman
- Original Message - > From: "Adarsh Sharma" > > Not getting U'r point marked as bold & Underline I checked up in the mean time, and it does not make a truly consistent backup of MyISAM - it locks all tables - yes, ALL tables - and then copies the files. Given that MyISAM doesn't supp

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-07 Thread Adarsh Sharma
Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: "Claudio Nanni" I think this is the best option for you: http://www.percona.com/docs/wiki/percona-xtrabackup:start I must say, I still haven't looked very well at xtrabackup. How does it take consistent backups of MyISAM ta

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-06 Thread Johan De Meersman
- Original Message - > From: "Claudio Nanni" > > I think this is the best option for you: > http://www.percona.com/docs/wiki/percona-xtrabackup:start I must say, I still haven't looked very well at xtrabackup. How does it take consistent backups of MyISAM tables? I didn't think that was

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-06 Thread Adarsh Sharma
Both MYISAM & Innodb Engines are used. Thanks Nilnandan Joshi wrote: Can you tell us which storage engine you are using? On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Adarsh Sharma mailto:adarsh.sha...@orkash.com>> wrote: Dear all, Is it possible to take backups of a table or complete database

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-06 Thread mark carson
Hi We use the --single-transaction switch thinking it does less locking or waiting for a required table lock. You then get a snapshot without stopping. Subject should have included the word 'hot'? Looking forward to other suggestions. Mark On 2011/06/07 08:00, Adarsh Sharma wrote: > Dear all,

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-06 Thread Nilnandan Joshi
Can you tell us which storage engine you are using? On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Adarsh Sharma wrote: > Dear all, > > Is it possible to take backups of a table or complete database without > stopping the application that continuously inserts and select data from the > tables. > > For taking c

Re: Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-06 Thread Claudio Nanni
Hi Adarsh, I think this is the best option for you: http://www.percona.com/docs/wiki/percona-xtrabackup:start There is also a commercial alternative, InnoBackup, but I imagine you like it free. Cheers Claudio On Jun 7, 2011 7:59 AM, "Adarsh Sharma" wrote: > Dear all, > > Is it possible to take

Doubt regarding Mysqlsump

2011-06-06 Thread Adarsh Sharma
Dear all, Is it possible to take backups of a table or complete database without stopping the application that continuously inserts and select data from the tables. For taking complete backup of a database I follow the below steps :- 1. First stop the application that insert & modifies table