Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-30 Thread Per Andreas Buer
Greetings, Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, David Griffiths wrote: A 64-bit CPU won't have the 4-gig memory limit that a 32-bit processor will; even worse, Linux is apparently limited to about a 2-gig process. It depends - there is a BIGMEM patch from Andrea

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-26 Thread Curtis Maurand
I'd be interested to see what happens when MySQL gets run on a G5. SPECint and SPECfp numbers look very good. there is an 8GB RAM limit on it, though. Curtis On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:37:24PM -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote: Linux compiled on

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-26 Thread KEITH COMER
The G5 may not be all Apple says it is, but then, nothing is what it seems when it comes to CPU's and performance tests. That said, if anyone who wants to buy me one when they come out, I won't complain. Interesting article. get's a bit numberish though.

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-25 Thread Lenz Grimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, David Griffiths wrote: I'm surprised there is not more interest in this; is it that not many work with large-ish (10+ gig) databases that need high-end performance? Many of our customers do. A 64-bit CPU won't have the

RE: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-25 Thread David Brodbeck
-Original Message- From: Lenz Grimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, you can create larger files on 32bit Linux systems as well. It's just that the file system and the C library must have support for LFS (Large File Support): http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html I can

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 24), David Griffiths said: I'm surprised there is not more interest in this; is it that not many work with large-ish (10+ gig) databases that need high-end performance? I think we have a mysql database running on Tru64, and I'm sure it runs great on Solaris. My guess

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread David Griffiths
Excellent point. How does MySQL run on Tru64? Any familiarity with it on Intel32? But there are some big drawbacks to these platforms: - they only run apps that have been specifically ported and compiled for them. The Opteron runs the same 32-bit code that an Athalon or Pentium class computer

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Mark Matthews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Griffiths wrote: I'm surprised there is not more interest in this; is it that not many work with large-ish (10+ gig) databases that need high-end performance? A 64-bit CPU won't have the 4-gig memory limit that a 32-bit processor will;

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Mike Wexler
Not necessarily. People that need relatively affordable 64 bit systems may be waiting for the Opteron to stabilize. My experience is the Wintel solutions (like Opteron) tend to have at least a 2-1 price performance over Sun and Dec. Also, given that HP has basically dropped Alpha, I don't

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Conlen
64 bit servers have different performance characteristics and tend to be used for different things. than PC systems. They are generally backplanes to which are attached some number of processors and some amount of memory, and a lot of IO. They aren't used as much for processor speed (you could

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Gabriel Guzman
not exactly relevant to this discussion but... Apple did just release the new G5, 64bit PowerMacs. Could be another alternative for the inexpensive 64bit market. Granted, they don't ship until august, but they are nice to look at: http://www.apple.com/powermac/ from their site: The Power

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:25:25PM -0700, Gabriel Guzman wrote: not exactly relevant to this discussion but... Apple did just release the new G5, 64bit PowerMacs. Could be another alternative for the inexpensive 64bit market. Granted, they don't ship until august, but they are nice to look

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Mike Wexler
Michael Conlen wrote: 64 bit servers have different performance characteristics and tend to be used for different things. than PC systems. They are generally backplanes to which are attached some number of processors and some amount of memory, and a lot of IO. They aren't used as much for

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Curtis Maurand
Linux compiled on an opteron and targeted for it will lose the 2-gig process limit. the 2-gig number is based on a 32 bit integer. You now would a have 64 bit integer (5 Quintillion as an unsigned integer. :-)). Imagine the 10GB database in memory, plus the temp and heap tables and the

Re: Anyone had a chance to try an Opteron yet?

2003-06-24 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:37:24PM -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote: Linux compiled on an opteron and targeted for it will lose the 2-gig process limit. the 2-gig number is based on a 32 bit integer. You now would a have 64 bit integer (5 Quintillion as an unsigned integer. :-)). Imagine