Re: discuss: user management: conclusion

2005-06-15 Thread Danny Stolle
Danny Stolle wrote: hi, i would like to discuss 'user management' in mysql. Working with Oracle you can assign users to roles giving them privileges provided by that role. MySql doesn't have Roles. I have read (Managing and Using MySql, O'Reilly) 3 options on managing users having multiple ro

RE: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Gordon Bruce
should only be able to see my own employee data or some parts of the data for people reporting to me.} Direct access via SQL would be extremely limited. -Original Message- From: Danny Stolle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mysql@lists.my

Re: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Peter Brawley
Danny, >that is an interesting formulation which you gave. can you please comment >that with an example? would you create roles for users who are assigned the >same privileges and individual users who have multiple roles? In this fragment from an example, a role has a name (roles.name), eg

Re: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Scott Gifford
Danny Stolle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > 3. Create multiple user IDs for each role played by each user > (dannys_arch as an architect, dannys_dev as a developer). An interesting argument in favor of the much maligned "option 3" is that it allows users to select which of their privileges

Re: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Danny Stolle
Peter, that is an interesting formulation which you gave. can you please comment that with an example? would you create roles for users who are assigned the same privileges and individual users who have multiple roles? Best Regards, Danny Stolle Netherlands Peter Brawley wrote: Danny />1.

Re: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Danny Stolle
George, from a MySql point of view, how would you deal with security on a site? would you than create individual users? Best Regards, Danny Stolle EmoeSoft, Netherlands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danny, My 2 cents (American dollars): From a security standpoint (if you are a financial instit

Re: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Danny Stolle
ber of roles? Kevin Struckhoff Customer Analytics Mgr. NewRoads West Office 818.253.3819 Fax 818.834.8843 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Danny Stolle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: d

RE: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread TheRefUmp
Danny, My 2 cents (American dollars): From a security standpoint (if you are a financial institution) you'd would never get away with #2 because there is no audit trail with multiple users using a "generic" user id. The MySQL implementation of security is not implemented with auditing and

Re: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Peter Brawley
Danny >1. Giving the user a Single user ID and assign the privileges to that user ID >2. Create role-bases users and have different people share the same user ID >for a given role. >3. Create multiple user IDs for each role played by each user (dannys_arch >as an architect, dannys_dev as a

RE: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Kevin Struckhoff
18.253.3819 Fax 818.834.8843 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Danny Stolle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: discuss: user management Hi Kevin, yes it is a complex matter, i agree completely

Re: discuss: user management

2005-06-14 Thread Danny Stolle
Hi Kevin, yes it is a complex matter, i agree completely. but how would you plan this as a dba or the person involved on administrating MySql. For instance: You would choose option 2 as the preferable one. But what would you do if somebody would change its role or that the person would get ot