Re: when to normalize out to a table

2003-02-23 Thread Michael T. Babcock
David T-G wrote: Well, I do, though I'm not surprised that I shouldn't. I still don't know anything about left, right, inner, and outer joins; they sound like belly buttons to me :-) The best thing to do is find a website with some sample data and sample queries and see how they actually work

Re: when to normalize out to a table

2003-01-15 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Cal Evans wrote: Always start with a *fully* normalized design. You can always denormalize for speed but it's real hard to normalize once you are in production. I'd rather be 'stupid' about how normalized my data is and then write caching into my program (or use MySQL 4's query cache, which

RE: when to normalize out to a table

2003-01-14 Thread Cal Evans
IMHO, etc. Always start with a *fully* (ok, by fully I mean 3rd normal form...mainly because I still don't fully understand 4th and don't even pretend to understand 5th) normalized design. You can always denormalize for speed but it's real hard to normalize once you are in production. Vocal

Re: when to normalize out to a table

2003-01-14 Thread David T-G
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RE: when to normalize out to a table

2003-01-14 Thread Cal Evans
to normalize out to a table - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e

Re: when to normalize out to a table

2003-01-14 Thread David T-G
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RE: when to normalize out to a table

2003-01-14 Thread Cal Evans
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Re: when to normalize out to a table

2003-01-14 Thread David T-G
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