Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Brawley
ge sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009

Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL

2009-11-11 Thread John Daisley
> On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:34 AM, John Daisley wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:50 -0600, Peter Brawley wrote: >>> European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens >>> database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. >>> Meanwhile >>> Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd

Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL

2009-11-11 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:34 AM, John Daisley wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:50 -0600, Peter Brawley wrote: >> European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens >> database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile >> Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2

Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL

2009-11-11 Thread Xiong HE
I believe MySQL will still have great influence in Open Source area. The better is that MySQL will be a separate Company which has no relation to Sun and Oracle. Maybe Oracle can sell MySQL to a 3rd company. 2009/11/11 John Daisley > What I am more concerned about at the moment is how much the u

Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL

2009-11-11 Thread John Daisley
What I am more concerned about at the moment is how much the uncertainty over the deal is hurting MySQL? I was recently in a project planning meeting where MySQL was dismissed completely because nobody could give guarantees about where MySQL was going. There were a lot of concerns over where futur

Oracle, Sun and MySQL

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Brawley
European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2009; who else but an anti-competitive giant would take a chance on buying Sun now? Story here: http://www.economist.

RE: [SPAM] - Re: Sun and mysql - Email found in subject

2008-01-17 Thread jmacaranas
>-Original Message- >From: Olaf Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:13 PM >To: Peter (MySQL List); MySql >Subject: [SPAM] - Re: Sun and mysql - Email found in subject > >You have a point. >But,

Re: Sun and mysql - sorry

2008-01-17 Thread Olaf Stein
I guess Ford is not a GM brand. Just substitute Ford with a GM brand On 1/17/08 12:23 PM, "Olaf Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand the marketing and hype thing. > I still have a hard time believing that the net worth is actually that high. > I guess we will see in 10 years or so...

valuation tangent (was Re: Sun and mysql)

2008-01-17 Thread Ofer Inbar
Olaf Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It will be interesting to see if facebook, youtube and alike websites will > ever generate enough earnings to cover the costs they were bought for. > Just because 50 million people know a website, it does not mean it makes > money automatically. The Google m

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Olaf Stein
I understand the marketing and hype thing. I still have a hard time believing that the net worth is actually that high. I guess we will see in 10 years or so... Maybe facebook should by GM, Ford can use some of that hype On 1/17/08 12:19 PM, "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olaf Stein

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Mark Leith
Olaf Stein wrote: I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this is probably good for the product itself. I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Two words:

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Martijn Tonies
> I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this > is probably good for the product itself. > > I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with > lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Much bigger market :-) A

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Olaf Stein
I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this is probably good for the product itself. I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Olaf On 1/17/08 12:10 PM, "Barry N

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Martijn Tonies
> Olaf Stein wrote: > > I am still amazed by the fact that youtube "is worth" 1.5 billion and MySQL > > AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way > > to much many to spend/waste? > > > > Greetings from the just wondering... > > Olaf > MySQL A.B., so far as I kno

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Olaf Stein
You have a point. But, facebook makes NO money at this time, has about 400 employees and Microsoft estimates its values at 15 billion dollars. I simply think this is nuts. Maybe I am too old with 30, but I have never even been to facebook. It will be interesting to see if facebook, youtube and ali

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Barry Newton
Olaf Stein wrote: I am still amazed by the fact that youtube "is worth" 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? Greetings from the just wondering... Olaf MySQL A.B., so far as I know, derives income from trai

Re: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread MySQL List
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:07:19 -0500 Olaf Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am still amazed by the fact that youtube "is worth" 1.5 billion and > MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google > just have way to much many to spend/waste? > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:14:36 -060

RE: Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I am still amazed by the fact that youtube "is worth" 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? [/snip] Or that Facebook is 'worth' multiple billions when they do not really have a way to make money yet.

Sun and mysql

2008-01-17 Thread Olaf Stein
I am still amazed by the fact that youtube "is worth" 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? Greetings from the just wondering... Olaf - Confidentiality Notice: The fol

Sun and MySQL

2008-01-16 Thread jekillen
Hello: Does this mean that MySQL is headed for closed source? re: Sun buys MySQL. And does it mean that someone may be wanting back licensing fees? Just curious, and too lazy to chase down links and stories. Jeff K -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To