Re: Reliability of _rowid over multiple database accesses

2003-10-21 Thread Thierno Cissé
Hi Smith, the fact that _rowid "may change over time depending on many factors" doesn't concern MySQL, but it is valable for mSQL. Regards. Thierno 6C - MySQL 4.0.15 - Original Message - From: "Roger Baklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: Reliability of _rowid over multiple database accesses

2003-10-20 Thread Roger Baklund
* Guy Smith > I'd like to use the _rowid capability of MySQL to improve the > efficiency of a project, but I have concerns about the > reliability of the number it returns. I understand that _rowid > "may change over time depending on many factors," but I'd like t

Reliability of _rowid over multiple database accesses

2003-10-20 Thread Guy Smith
I'd like to use the _rowid capability of MySQL to improve the efficiency of a project, but I have concerns about the reliability of the number it returns. I understand that _rowid "may change over time depending on many factors," but I'd like to know whether this is true

Re: _rowid

2002-11-15 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Dean Harding wrote: Like I said, the ROWID in Oracle is the *physical address* of the row. It's made up of three parts: datafile, block and offset. If you say: select * from some_table where rowid='RRRBBFFF'; In that case, I'm more confused about why anyone would want to specify "ORDER

RE: _rowid

2002-11-15 Thread Dean Harding
> >In Oracle, because the ROWID is the actual physical address of the row, > >it provides O(1) access to a row, as opposed to O(log(n)) that an index > >provides. That's a pretty good benefit if you ask me. > > > > I'd love to see the math on that proven; I'm running it through my head > now and

Re: _rowid

2002-11-15 Thread Michael T. Babcock
developers, perhaps. Sorry; I crossed DB admin with DB developper ... I happen to have both titles. That said, I'd like to point out the error of your other comment; (as I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong) if MySQL doesn't have any indexes on a table (your choice, a

RE: _rowid

2002-11-14 Thread Dean Harding
gt; > Neither does an auto_increment index value that you put in the table > yourself. I'm still waiting to hear a proponent of _rowid tell me why > _rowid is _better_ for _database_admins_ than using an auto_increment > column value. The '_rowid takes no space' a

Re: _rowid

2002-11-14 Thread Michael T. Babcock
_increment index value that you put in the table yourself. I'm still waiting to hear a proponent of _rowid tell me why _rowid is _better_ for _database_admins_ than using an auto_increment column value. The '_rowid takes no space' argument is hogwash; its stored by Oracle in

RE: _rowid

2002-11-14 Thread Dean Harding
ge- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:horizonx@;noos.fr] Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2002 9:52 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: _rowid Hi Benjamin, > > Isn't _rowid some type of internal variable? What is its exact > purpose and > > significance? Thanks for nailing the matte

Re: _rowid

2002-11-14 Thread horizonx
Hi Benjamin, > > Isn't _rowid some type of internal variable? What is its exact > purpose and > > significance? Thanks for nailing the matter down. > http://lists.mysql.com/cgi-ez/ezmlm-cgi?1:msn:39492:cnfpdcnkgalicmjgekef "My main concern is that if we would ma

Re: _rowid

2002-11-06 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann
this > is of type integer, one can also refer to it as _rowid" > > Isn't _rowid some type of internal variable? What is its exact purpose and > significance? Well, as it has been implemented due to user request, searching the archives may help: http://lists.mysql.com/cgi-ez/ezm

Re: _rowid

2002-11-06 Thread Michael T. Babcock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Add a PRIMARY KEY or UNIQUE key to the table and use this. New in Version 3.23.11: If the PRIMARY or UNIQUE key consists of only one column and this is of type integer, one can also refer to it as _rowid" Isn't _rowid some type of internal variable? Wh

_rowid

2002-11-06 Thread horizonx
What about the following info in the manual p. 55? "Add a PRIMARY KEY or UNIQUE key to the table and use this. New in Version 3.23.11: If the PRIMARY or UNIQUE key consists of only one column and this is of type integer, one can also refer to it as _rowid" Isn't _rowid some t