Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:53:46AM +0100, Rudy Zijlstra wrote: Still do not understand why US had too choose 8VSB for ATSC. Check the testing the australians did when choosing there system. In the end ATSC because of the infamous HD table (thus forcing a number of HD capabilities), and

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-10 Thread Martijn Coenen
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 22:38:37 -0800, nate s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, here in the US we are far too arrogant to adopt other countries standards :) Arrogant or not, the fact that your government pushes HDTV does mean that you will be able to enjoy it by next year. Here in Europe there is no

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-10 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Friday 10 December 2004 08:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I have to ask a stupid question... Anyway, the pcHDTV card we are all talking about is rumoured to have QAM support in development, so it could tune your cable and you would not need an antenna. As to when, who knows?

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-10 Thread Brad Templeton
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:29:35AM -0500, Joseph A. Caputo wrote: This is how I understand it (from one layman to another): If you have digital cable, the digital channels (typically channels 125 are still analog NTSC, even if you have a digital subscription) use QAM. I'm not clear on

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:52:51AM -0800, Brad Templeton wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:29:35AM -0500, Joseph A. Caputo wrote: This is how I understand it (from one layman to another): If you have digital cable, the digital channels (typically channels 125 are still analog NTSC,

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-10 Thread Rudy Zijlstra
nate s wrote: Nah, here in the US we are far too arrogant to adopt other countries standards :) I thought that QAM was only good over cable. I didn't know it could work OTA as well. -Nate And satellite uses QPSK (also called QAM-4). Still do not understand why US had too choose 8VSB for ATSC.

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:54:42PM -0800, Brad Templeton wrote: ATSC is in fact the only reason people are putting up new antennas. If you get satellite, you must use an antenna to get your local stations. The satellite companies don't have the bandwidth to feed all the locals in HD, not yet.

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-09 Thread nate s
Nah, here in the US we are far too arrogant to adopt other countries standards :) I thought that QAM was only good over cable. I didn't know it could work OTA as well. -Nate On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 00:08:58 +1100, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:54:42PM -0800,

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-06 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:56:42AM -0500, Randy Carpenter wrote: What are the chances of us being able to get a card that will accept ATSC over cable (using a cablecard) ? That, along with satellite, have to be the vast majority of the market. Do many people really use OTA antennas for

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-06 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Monday 06 December 2004 02:54, Brad Templeton wrote: Sadly, the protocols include copy protection, so no open source decoding of the firewire stream. In theory, if they do non-protected firewire on the broadcast shows you could get that. I thought they were required to provide access to

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-06 Thread Kevin Hulse
Quoting Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:42:02AM -0600, Kevin Hulse wrote: e) You wish to archive some of what you are recording on your Tivo f) You wish your Tivo were better organized (like, by series then episode) g) You want a DVD jukebox. h) You want an

[mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-05 Thread Brad
Title: Re: New MythTV Hardware Review It will be too late. 6 months from now, sale of tuner cards for HDTV that could be used in an open source environment will be banned. So while you may not get your HDTV display, you will be wanting to get your tuner card before June, and once you have it,

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-05 Thread Brad Templeton
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:20:26PM -0800, Brad wrote: Its also worth noting that this law is only in the US (and very stupid, IMHO). So it is possible, if you live outside the US, that you will be able to buy the cards and record HDTV content - which Problem is the ATSC standard is for

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-05 Thread Randy Carpenter
Problem is the ATSC standard is for just a few nations. USA, Canada, Mexico, South Korea and some smaller places, all under pressure from the USA to adopt the broadcast flag. So you will have to hunt to get your card. More to the point, if you can't sell cards into the USA and Canadian

[mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-05 Thread Doug Heimburger
Thanks to all for the feedback -- Brad, appreciate you bringing up the HDTV option. Buying the HD card before June was indeed on my plate, but I didn't want to put it in at the same time as the rest of this setup (just to keep the complexity down). However, my understanding is that HD requires a

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New MythTV Hardware Review

2004-12-05 Thread Brad Templeton
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:10:41PM -0800, Doug Heimburger wrote: However, my understanding is that HD requires a decent amount of CPU to decompress, right? My G4 Powerbook struggles to decompress the MPEG-2 stream in software; I shudder to think about how it would do on an HD stream. Most