RE: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Jason, Are you espousing Juniper or Foundry for 10ge? -Original Message- From: Jason LeBlanc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:35 PM To: Gary; Christopher J. Wolff Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The market must be coming back Juniper. Sorry I'm a fan, they'

Re: Cisco 7200 VXR with NPE-400 (was RE: The market must be coming back)

2002-05-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 07:27:35AM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > I have personally seen a 7200 with PXF-chip and two PA-GE do NAT at > 300megabit with a few (10-15) ftp streams going thru it. With more random > load it wouldn't go much above 100 meg, though. I have done 400Mbit with an N

Re: Cisco 7200 VXR with NPE-400 (was RE: The market must be comingback)

2002-05-20 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 21 May 2002, Gary wrote: > I used a Cisco 7200 VXR with NPE-400. I used two different 7200's with the > exact same results. Bidirectional throughput on 1GbE is a fraction above > 10%. Unidirectional is a bit better (23%). Singl line ACL drops it to 8% > (permit ip any any). FE perfo

Cisco 7200 VXR with NPE-400 (was RE: The market must be coming back)

2002-05-20 Thread Gary
Adam: > [...] Sort of like buying a GbE interface for a 7200 (It only get's > > 10% throughput... Why waste the money, just buy FE!). > > How did the Foundry test lab arrive at those figures, and what > substances were consumed at the time? I used a Cisco 7200 VXR with NPE-400. I used two dif

Re: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 10:33:32PM -0600, Chance Whaley wrote: > > Oh phuleeese Stop drinking your own Kool-Aid(tm). To honestly > suggest that Foundry, or any other vendor for that matter, never does > 'anything less than perfect' is nothing less than idiotic. If Foundry > does things so 'p

Re: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Avleen Vig
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > Everyone's so busy there hasn't been a peep on here in weeks. I don't know.. it's been fairly chatty on here. At times more so and more often on a single thread than usual. One report claims that the job boards have exploded in parts of the wo

Re: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Adam Rothschild
On 2002-05-21-00:14:30, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] Sort of like buying a GbE interface for a 7200 (It only get's > 10% throughput... Why waste the money, just buy FE!). How did the Foundry test lab arrive at those figures, and what substances were consumed at the time? I'd say 300

RE: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Chance Whaley
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Gary > that want 4 X 10 GbE on each module (8 slot chassis). I > expect this will be a perfect 40G throughput since I've never > seen us do anything less than perfect (been working here > since

RE: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Gary
Chris: > I've been thinking about leasing some dark fiber and running one of the > new 10gigE blades for the Cat 6500 chassis. Be careful here. Last I tested (at one of our channels that also resells Cisco) is that the 10GbE on the Catalyst 6500 hasn't broken 4G throughput yet. Sort of like b

RE: Network Reliability Engineering

2002-05-20 Thread Randy Neals
While it is possible to get the FIT numbers for hardware and calculate network availability, our experience has been that modelling hardware reliability and calculating network availability was not particularly usefull as hardware and fiber transmission systems are usually the least signifigant

RE: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Joe Blanchard
Title: RE: The market must be coming back Don't know whats up with the list server. I didn't get any messages all last week then checked the archives page and saw tons of msgs that I never got. I re-subscribed and now there are some coming thru, and some are missing. I sent an email about th

Re: Canonical bogon list?

2002-05-20 Thread Rob Thomas
Hi, Kevin. ] Does anyone know of a source for a reliable bogon list? The best I know if ] is from Rob Thomas, but his last template update was 10/01, and IANA's ] made allocations since then. Actually, the mistake is that I've updated my template yet failed to change the date. DOH! Sorry abou

Re: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread dre
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 05:27:20PM -0700, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > > Everyone's so busy there hasn't been a peep on here in weeks. > > Regards, > Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Nah, we're just not "allowed" to post here anymore. Inside joke with myself, please ignore ;> -dre

RE: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Peep peep! I've been thinking about leasing some dark fiber and running one of the new 10gigE blades for the Cat 6500 chassis. Throw in the Cisco "Flamethrower" GBIC and I should be good for 50 miles. Has anyone tried this? C. -Original Message- From: Scott Granados [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, there has been a lot of peeping! On Mon, 20 May 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > > Everyone's so busy there hasn't been a peep on here in weeks. > > Regards, > Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO > Broadband Laboratories > http://www.bblabs.com > >

The market must be coming back

2002-05-20 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Everyone's so busy there hasn't been a peep on here in weeks. Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories http://www.bblabs.com

Re: RADB mirroring

2002-05-20 Thread Mark Prior
At 1:35 PM -0700 20/5/02, Randy Bush wrote: > > An IRR not mirrored by the RADB (to act as a member) and not >> mirroring every RR mirrored by the RADB (to hijack the top level) >> seems pointless. > >auto-config tools, such as ratoolset, do not use the mirrored data, >only the origin data. o

Re: Interconnects

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Daniel Golding") writes: > PAIX shares MFN/Abovenet's peering agreements? That's quite a trick. ... No. PAIX has no peering agreements of any kind. > This is not to slam PAIX or Paul Vixie - I'm a big PAIX fan, and Paul has > done a superb job. However, MFN adds no value,

RE: Interconnects

2002-05-20 Thread Daniel Golding
PAIX shares MFN/Abovenet's peering agreements? That's quite a trick. While Above does peer at PAIX, as do many other folks, the amount of peering that Above has there does not speak to the quality of the exchange point, nor does it add value in any real way. There is MFN fiber in there, but tha

Re: Canonical bogon list?

2002-05-20 Thread Randy Bush
you may look at draft-iana-special-ipv4-03.txt

Canonical bogon list?

2002-05-20 Thread kevin graham
Does anyone know of a source for a reliable bogon list? The best I know if is from Rob Thomas, but his last template update was 10/01, and IANA's made allocations since then. http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space is the best I can find, but wanted to see if anyone had a more tho

Re: RADB mirroring

2002-05-20 Thread Jake Khuon
### On Mon, 20 May 2002 13:35:34 -0700, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> casually ### decided to expound upon "Peter E. Fry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the following ### thoughts about "Re: RADB mirroring": RB> > An IRR not mirrored by the RADB (to act as a member) and not RB> > mirroring every RR mirror

Re: Routes down to yahoo.com, etc. from Wash DC?

2002-05-20 Thread Sean Donelan
www.yahoo.com has been akawhoknows. You'll need to specify which IP address you were really trying to go to. On Mon, 20 May 2002, Mary Grace wrote: > IS it just us out hereon the Right Coast in the Washington DC area, but are > a number of routes to the Bay Area and Southern California down?

Routes down to yahoo.com, etc. from Wash DC?

2002-05-20 Thread Mary Grace
IS it just us out hereon the Right Coast in the Washington DC area, but are a number of routes to the Bay Area and Southern California down? We can't get traceroutes through or customer connections to www.yahoo.com, while other like www.msn.com and http://home.netscape.com come in just fine.

Re: "portscans" (was Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product)

2002-05-20 Thread Stephen Griffin
In the referenced message, Mitch Halmu said: > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Dan Hollis wrote: > > > netside has been a long time lunatic opponent of RBLs > > First they came for the Communists, > and I didn't speak up, > because I wasn't a Communist. > Then they came for the Jews, > and I didn't sp

Re: EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects]

2002-05-20 Thread Brian
My take on ebitda, it is what non profitable companies use to put a positive spin on their situation. Bri On Mon, 20 May 2002, Chris Woodfield wrote: > The main fallacy of EBITDA is that a lot of people confuse EBIDTA figures with cash > flow figures. While the utility of a quarterly f

Re: RADB mirroring

2002-05-20 Thread Randy Bush
> An IRR not mirrored by the RADB (to act as a member) and not > mirroring every RR mirrored by the RADB (to hijack the top level) > seems pointless. auto-config tools, such as ratoolset, do not use the mirrored data, only the origin data. one specifies the list of registries to search. so, mi

Re: RADB mirroring

2002-05-20 Thread Peter E. Fry
Ralph Doncaster wrote: > > RADB definately does not mirror (at least not daily) ARIN's RR. [...] Correct -- not at all. Can anybody speak toward the purpose of the ARIN RR? An IRR not mirrored by the RADB (to act as a member) and not mirroring every RR mirrored by the RADB (to hijack the to

Re: "portscans" (was Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product)

2002-05-20 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 16:30:48 (-0700), Dan Hollis wrote: ] > Subject: Re: "portscans" (was Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product) > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > Such technology is very dangerous if automated. > > And if its not? If it's not an automated system then i

multilink frame relay

2002-05-20 Thread c johnson
I was wondering if there was any online / hardcopy information about multilink frame relay that you have found useful. I was also wondering if there was any online / hardcopy information comparing multilink frame relay to standard frame relay that you have found useful as well. replies appre

RADB mirroring

2002-05-20 Thread Ralph Doncaster
RADB definately does not mirror (at least not daily) ARIN's RR. Time to setup with altdb... % ARIN Internet Routing Registry Whois Interface route: 66.11.160.0/20 descr: Doncaster Consulting Inc. 2720 Queensview Dr Ottawa, ON K2B 1A5

RE: route statistics

2002-05-20 Thread W.D.McKinney
You could rebuild the source rpm to any flavour also. /Dee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bradley Dunn Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:47 AM To: Ralph Doncaster Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: route statistics > I've been told gettin

Re: "portscans" (was Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product)

2002-05-20 Thread Crist J. Clark
Dan Hollis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 18 May 2002, Scott Francis wrote: > > On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 11:05:34PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > attacked any host or network that I was not directly responsible for. > > > If you don't want the public portions of your network mapped th

Re: route statistics

2002-05-20 Thread Bradley Dunn
> I've been told getting the MRT sources to build is rather difficult. I > may give it a shot anyway... Yeah I haven't been able to build directly from the MRT source recently. On FreeBSD building from the ports tree works fine. On Linux SuSE has an RPM at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/7.3/s

Re: route statistics

2002-05-20 Thread Ralph Doncaster
> > I'm trying to collect statistics on how many routes match certain > > patterns. So far I've been using zebra, set term len 0, and then sh ip > > bgp regexp, and wait for the total prefixes count at the end of the list. > > I figure there must be a better way than this, but so far haven't fou

Re: EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects]

2002-05-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 20 May 2002 12:08:32 EDT, Chris Woodfield said: > Intermedia, for example, was EBITDA positive for all of the time I was working for > them, yet was bleeding approx. $100 million plus in interest payments per year. > This created a very real cash crunch that prompted the sale to Worldcom.

Metromedia Fiber Network files for bankruptcy

2002-05-20 Thread Mitch Halmu
As predicted: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020520/nym120_1.html --Mitch NetSide "I am here to bury Caesar not to praise him".