CW?

2002-11-13 Thread Alex Rubenstein
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/021113/0217000178_2.html -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, [EMAIL PROTECTED], latency, Al Reuben -- --Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net --

Re: CW east coast flap this afternoon?

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Feamster
We see instability from certain prefixes originated by CW around this time (indeed, they seem to be showing up across many of our views). See

Re: CW east coast flap this afternoon?

2002-11-13 Thread Peter Salus
CW is divesting itself of a lot of real estate these days. It struck a deal with Primus concerning its voice customers (last week), now its DSL customers to New Edge. Moreover, the BBC reports today that CW is cutting 3500 jobs worldwide and also announced heavy losses. CW announced that

free network monitoring/management tools

2002-11-13 Thread Joshua Smith
hello to all, i would appreciate your your knowledge and experiences regarding freely available tools for network monitoring and management (all cisco now, some other stuff later). i would prefer free tools as i have no budget :) i am looking for the following (it will be running on either

Re: CW east coast flap this afternoon?

2002-11-13 Thread Jonathan Disher
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Peter Salus wrote: CW is divesting itself of a lot of real estate these days. It struck a deal with Primus concerning its voice customers (last week), now its DSL customers to New Edge. New Edge is also getting their non-enterprise (i.e. T1, frac DS3) customers. We

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2002-11-13 Thread Harsha Narayan
Hello, Are there some ISPs who filter prefixes longer than /19 or a /20?. I thought they filtered only prefixes which are longer than /24? Harsha.

NOC equipment checklist

2002-11-13 Thread Dan Lockwood
Title: Message Group, I'm looking to get input on a moring checklist for NOC equipment. What I would like to put together is a list that I can give to my techs and have them check things like power supply alarms, hard disk alarms, etc. I guess somewhat like a colocation taking care of

qwest-bbnplanet problems this morning?

2002-11-13 Thread Marius Strom
Is anyone else seeing occasional flapping between qwest and bbn this morning? I've got TT's open w/Qwest and since the ticket-taker I spoke to had 0 clue, I assume my T1's will go down for testing anytime. *sigh* -- /-

Re: all the mails on Filtering

2002-11-13 Thread Jared Mauch
If you're multihomed you can generally obtain provider indepdent space from your RIR. Most people who do this filtering do it on the RIR boundaries for their minimum allocation. If you are annoucing your provider assigned space as a /24, they tend to announce the (/14 -

Re: all the mails on Filtering

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Hi Harsha, this occurs quite often as a topic for discussion here.. the answer is they do it because they can and unless you have an RIR allocation theres no guarantees and to be fair the RIRs do state that. and good/bad agree/disagree some ISPs filter more than others and theres not a lot you

PAIX

2002-11-13 Thread David Diaz
Since it seems to be public, no harm in sharing it. http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/021113/1031000599_1.html I am sure a lot of customer will feel better. Stronger balance sheet means Switch and Data will be a definite survivor and so will PAIX. Looks like we're coming back to a peering location

disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Ralph Doncaster
I've found there are many providers that have completely disconnected autonomous systems. For example Yipes (6517) uses L3 on the west coast and Williams on the east coast. 66.7.129.0/24 is advertised under their AS through WCG and 209.213.209.0/24 is advertised under their AS through L3. And

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread E.B. Dreger
RD Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:05 -0500 (EST) RD From: Ralph Doncaster RD And the number of connected autonomous systems with RD de-aggregated prefixes appears to be even more common than a RD disconnected AS. I see many weed-filled yards. Must mean weeds are acceptable, even desirable,

Re: CW east coast flap this afternoon?

2002-11-13 Thread Andy Ellifson
CW is moving any customers that are not directly connected to a CW owned node to New Edge. I am a CW T-1 Customer in the Phoenix, AZ market on the N3 network and we will not be moving anywhere. --- Jonathan Disher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Peter Salus wrote: CW is

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 02:28:07PM -0600, Daniel Golding wrote: As long as you are familiar with the pitfalls, there is nothing inherently wrong with using a single AS in multiple locations, and advertising discrete blocks of address space in each one. The best reason to do this is for a

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread E.B. Dreger
DG Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:28:07 -0600 (CST) DG From: Daniel Golding DG Of course, it required you to point default routes out your DG upstreams, as you will not see the prefixes from one DG discontiguous island, in another, thanks to BGP loop DG detection. router bgp asn neighbor w.x.y.z

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Ralph Doncaster
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Daniel Golding wrote: [...] As far as aggregation - they are a couple reasons to not aggregate, but the vast majority of it is sloth. [...] I've never seen anyone here complain that Yipes de-aggregates 66.7.128.0/18 into /24's like 66.7.129.0/24. Until the bigger

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Of course, it required you to point default routes out your upstreams, as you will not see the prefixes from one discontiguous island, in another, thanks to BGP loop detection. ouch. bad practice defaulting like that, however to static route your individual blocks wouldnt be a problem

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread alex
inherently wrong with using a single AS in multiple locations, and advertising discrete blocks of address space in each one. The best reason to do this is for a network that you eventually plan to merge - it eliminates issues of having to make major BGP configuration changes. Nothing

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Ralph Doncaster
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Just making sure Ralph knows this, since I'm sure achieving 99% peering by getting 10GE into NYIIX is the goal for his OC192 over 2600 network. :) Trying to run OC192 over a 2600 router would make more business sense than giving away 250mbps

RE: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Adam Bechtel
I don't know how much of it is ignorance, or resource constraints. I've worked with companies that have used disconnected AS's because they couldn't justify multiple AS's and they needed to multihome in multiple isolated locations. I've also worked with companies that deliberately de-aggregate

RE: NOC equipment checklist

2002-11-13 Thread Dale Levesque
Title: Message One suggestion that I have is that you have an offsite/net monitoring service that at least monitors your monitoring system. That way if every decides to go down, and you monitoring system cannot get to the internet you know about it. There are a lot more things but I think

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Daniel Golding
I suppose that depends on how many static routes you would need, and how many routers you would have to touch. If you have 10 sites like this, and add or remove several blocks every day (an extreme, of course), then you could end up manipulating many statics on numerous routers, which, aside

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:49:53PM -0500, Ralph Doncaster wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Just making sure Ralph knows this, since I'm sure achieving 99% peering by getting 10GE into NYIIX is the goal for his OC192 over 2600 network. :) Trying to run OC192

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Scott Granados
Aren't some reasons for using disconnected as's regulatory based ie the bells etc? On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: inherently wrong with using a single AS in multiple locations, and advertising discrete blocks of address space in each one. The best reason to do this is

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Daniel Golding wrote: I suppose that depends on how many static routes you would need, and how many routers you would have to touch. If you have 10 sites like this, and add or remove several blocks every day (an extreme, of course), then you could end up manipulating

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Daniel Golding
Actually, most of the RBOC/ILEC's use completely seperate AS's. FCC Regulation being a legitimate reason to request a whole bushel of AS's from ARIN. Try doing an ARIN whois on bellsouth, and you get... Bellsouth.Net (AS7891) BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK27891 - 7894 Bellsouth.Net (AS8060)

South Florida Network Operators Group

2002-11-13 Thread Dale Levesque
Does anyone in here now of a South Florida Network Operators Group, or something similar, and if not, would they be interested in starting one. Dale Levesque

RE: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread Kris Foster
Aren't some reasons for using disconnected as's regulatory based ie the bells etc? As far as I've seen they do the right thing and use multiple ASNs. Kris On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: inherently wrong with using a single AS in multiple locations, and

Re: South Florida Network Operators Group

2002-11-13 Thread David Diaz
Title: Re: South Florida Network Operators Group Dale, South Florida Telecom Forum is about the only thing close in the area. Or the Cisco Users Group down here. I think there is definitely more interest in the area for something, but perhaps not as many operators based here. A great number are

Re: disconnected autonomous systems

2002-11-13 Thread ren
ASN per LATA to abide by the Telco Act of 1996... SBC is rapidly shrinking the need down to a handful. 4 ASNs are in use at IXs today. Next year that should be cut in half. http://www.sbcbackbone.net/peering/ -ren At 03:14 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, Daniel Golding wrote: Actually, most of the

News - FCC Approves Comcast-ATT Cable Merger

2002-11-13 Thread Richard Forno
FYI..rf FCC Approves Comcast-ATT Cable Merger By David Ho Associated Press Writer Wednesday, November 13, 2002; 3:55 PM The $29.2 billion merger of Comcast and ATT Broadband was approved by federal regulators Wednesday, clearing the way for creation of the nation's largest cable

Re: CW east coast flap this afternoon?

2002-11-13 Thread Jonathan Disher
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Andy Ellifson wrote: CW is moving any customers that are not directly connected to a CW owned node to New Edge. I am a CW T-1 Customer in the Phoenix, AZ market on the N3 network and we will not be moving anywhere. We are also connected to the N3 network (2 T1's to

Re: all the mails on Filtering

2002-11-13 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:45:15AM -0800, Harsha Narayan wrote: [snip] But it appears that there are many cases where customers prefer to take a prefix from the ISP rather than an RIR even if it is a /19 or a /20 - for example from the /11 of a big ISP, there are 50 /19s and /20s which

Re: PAIX

2002-11-13 Thread Paul Vixie
Equinix and SD (PAIX) will be the new peering exchanges. I hate to think how many exchange points that leaves out. Telehouse and Terramark come to mind. Even if there are some dominant players, domestic neutral exchange points are still a diverse, vibrant market. Question is, outside of 6