The Cidr Report

2002-12-20 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 20 21:48:05 2002 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table

Re: Using link congestion to control routing updates

2002-12-20 Thread Anders Lowinger
Stephen Sprunk wrote: Opposite problem -- he wants to delay routing updates if the link is full. EIGRP by default won't use more than 25/50% (I forget) of link bw, for instance, but I'm not aware of any intentional features in other IGPs to do this. Both OSPF and ISIS in Cisco's have pacing,

RE: Using link congestion to control routing updates

2002-12-20 Thread Ejay Hire
Finally, I found it. If you diddle the K values for EIGRP, you can make it consider reliability, load, and delay statistics when populating a route to the route table. The default behavior is bandwidth and delay. ---Quote---http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/103/eigrp1.html EIGRP uses these

Re: Using link congestion to control routing updates

2002-12-20 Thread Eric Osborne
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:21:39AM -0600, Ejay Hire wrote: Finally, I found it. If you diddle the K values for EIGRP, you can make it consider reliability, load, and delay statistics when populating a route to the route table. The default behavior is bandwidth and delay. Yeah, but

White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread David Lesher
[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?] http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/20/technology/20MONI.html?pagewanted=printposition=top December 20, 2002

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet(fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David Lesher wrote: [This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?] I read this in the paper this morning. The article is a summary

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Richard Irving
The -real- challenge is to create a system -capable- of monitoring the entire internet Today there isn't enough horsepower to accomplish such a thing, except by exception to the rule, rather than the rule. In analogy: We can adjust the flows of the Hoover (remember him ?) Damn, we cannot

18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread jcvaraillon
Hi, Today the network18.0.0.0/8 disappeared from the Internet, it is now reachable. I went to different looking glass (MAE East, LINX, GRnet) and 18.0.0.0/8 was not in their routing table. Is it related to a major problem? Regards, Christophe

Re: 18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread Joe Abley
On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 13:02 Canada/Eastern, jcvaraillon wrote: 4Today the network 18.0.0.0/8 disappeared from the Internet, it is now reachable.   I went to different looking glass (MAE East, LINX, GRnet) and 18.0.0.0/8 was not in their routing table.   Is it related to a major

Re: 18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread Dave Israel
On 12/20/2002 at 13:11:56 -0500, Joe Abley said: On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 13:02 Canada/Eastern, jcvaraillon wrote: 4Today the network 18.0.0.0/8 disappeared from the Internet, it is now reachable.   I went to different looking glass (MAE East, LINX, GRnet) and 18.0.0.0/8 was

RE: 18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread Charles Youse
Title: RE: 18.0.0.0/8 Care to elaborate? -Original Message- From: Joe Abley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:12 PM To: jcvaraillon Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: 18.0.0.0/8 On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 13:02 Canada/Eastern, jcvaraillon wrote: 4Today

Re: 18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread Matt Braun
A large utility outage followed by failures in secondary systems caused power problems in MIT's POP. My understanding is service has been restored. Matt From: jcvaraillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:02:40 +0200 Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Today the

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:12:43AM -0500, David Lesher wrote: [This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?]

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Richard Irving
Freud, your slip is showing ? :P Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Richard Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In analogy: We can adjust the flows of the Hoover (remember him ?) Damn, we cannot however stop to count damn is an expletive, dam is a noun. :)

Re: 18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread Sean Donelan
http://nic.mit.edu/3down/ Last Update: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:31 PM EST This morning the UPS system in W92-130 failed to protect the equipment after a CELCO power event. This room houses a number of critical services, and our primary connection to the outside Internet. The system is

Re: 18.0.0.0/8

2002-12-20 Thread Joe Abley
On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 13:11 Canada/Eastern, Joe Abley wrote: On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 13:02 Canada/Eastern, jcvaraillon wrote: 4Today the network 18.0.0.0/8 disappeared from the Internet, it is now reachable.   I went to different looking glass (MAE East, LINX, GRnet) and

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Richard Irving
Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:12:43AM -0500, David Lesher wrote: But it is good for a laugh. Or a cry. :) :* :( FWIW, One American Government Legislative body, all full of itself, had all but passed an act requiring the value of PI to be legislated to 3,

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:31:39 MST, Wayne E. Bouchard said: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:12:43AM -0500, David Lesher wrote: [This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes will you need to make? What will they

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet(fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread batz
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David Lesher wrote: :[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared :with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes :will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?] There is a really easy way to accomplish this, and it has been

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet

2002-12-20 Thread batz
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Ted Hardie wrote: :exchange point routing tables seems to assume that the exchange :point operator is operating at Layer 3. The most popular exchanges at :the moment (PAIX, LINX, EQIX) seem to be layer 2 (GigE) or layer 1 :(fiber strung from cage to cage, you run what you

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet(fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
Cough! On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, batz wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David Lesher wrote: :[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared :with the router port for John Poindexter's vacuum? What changes :will you need to make? What will they cost? Who will pay?] There is a

Fw: Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Fred Heutte
I have restrained from saying this so far but... I told you so. When I attended the Oakland NANOG in October 2001, I had just returned from Washington DC. The trip originally was for my brother's wedding but I extended it for some personal lobbying on the so-called USA PATRIOT bill as it

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet(fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Richard Irving
Christopher L. Morrow wrote: Cough! Sure, or they could ask carriers to tap lines for them silently... in fact they can do that today with a court order. Nope. USA Patriot Act, No Court Order Needed. :( Civil Liberties for Tax Refunds, Takers ? :P A COO I know is actually

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet (fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread blitz
Methinks they'll try the Russian SORM model. Since this country is hell bent on establishing a police-state, this seems logical. Why not use the one thats been developed? http://www.libertarium.ru/eng/sorm/ :[This just jumped into the operational arena. Are you prepared :with the router

RE: AOL Cogent

2002-12-20 Thread Deepak Jain
Further, if L3/Cogent are settlement-free and both parties are interested in growing the size of their peering connections, wouldn't it make better sense for Cogent all-around? If AOL is not interested in settlement-free peering with them, then AOL can pay to get to them. I seem to remember

RE: AOL Cogent

2002-12-20 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Old rules, modern peering decisions arent made with such common sense ideas in mind but based on power play and a desire for everyone to be your customer! Connectivity, resilience, even commercial saving all seem to be increasingly moved to be on a back burner for many peering managers! I have

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet(fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread batz
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: :Cough! Heh. Bless you. ;) :This is incorrect, this isn't implemented, its not implementable, current :routing gear doesn't gre tunnel a) fast enough, b) at all HOWEVER, :juniper will allow you to copy packets on an interface in 5.5 or

misbehaving DNS resolvers

2002-12-20 Thread Peter van Dijk
Hi, over the last week I have been seeing more and more resolvers (all that I know about are BIND but I'm not drawing conclusions yet) send my nameservers more and more *identical* queries, a *lot* of them. Just to keep it short: take a look at http://www.dataloss.nl/dnsoffenders/ and

RE: AOL Cogent

2002-12-20 Thread Ringdahl, Dwight (WebUseNet)
If I were Level3, I'd give them (cogent) a bigger peering pipe, and take the money from the larger, more stable company AOL... Might not be common peering sense, but damn good business sense Further, if L3/Cogent are settlement-free and both parties are interested in growing the size of

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet

2002-12-20 Thread Sean Donelan
A White House spokesperson has already denied the report in the New York Times. Of course, the US Government is a big place. On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: Sure, or they could ask carriers to tap lines for them silently... in fact they can do that today with a court order.

Re: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet(fwd)

2002-12-20 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, batz wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: :Cough! Heh. Bless you. ;) its this damned changing weather :) :This is incorrect, this isn't implemented, its not implementable, current :routing gear doesn't gre tunnel a) fast enough, b) at all