Hi, Stuart.
] So you believe that the edges of the net are smaller, bandwidth-wise,
] than the core?
This was certainly the case in my previous life at a large hosting
provider. We had GigE LANs, used providers with OC192 backbones,
but had only OC3 to OC12 links to our providers. Like most
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Michael Whisenant wrote:
Well looks like that have more BOGON problems. They are sending
128.161.0.0/3. These guys love claiming default gateway traffic?
168.0.0.0/6 194.85.4.249 0 3277 13062 20485
8437 3303 i
160.0.0.0/5 194.85.4.249
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 08:13:49AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Michael Whisenant wrote:
Well looks like that have more BOGON problems. They are sending
128.161.0.0/3. These guys love claiming default gateway traffic?
168.0.0.0/6 194.85.4.249
The average user will say OOH! SHINY!! [clicky-click] when offered content
promising either dancing hampsters or pop stars wearing less clothing than
appropriate. Any security model that doesn't allow for this is doomed to
failure.
Introducing Telecomplete Security service, with antivirus,
On 24.11 18:20, William Allen Simpson wrote:
Brian Bruns wrote:
One thing that many people don't realize (from my personal experience) is
that contrary to popular belief, Win98SE is a good all around desktop OS to
use. It can run most things like productivity apps and games, and with
A resume of some of the answers I have received:
What's missing from (at least some) current traffic shaping appliances
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~joe/what-shapers-need.pdf
Ten Odd Strategies for Picking Numerical Values for Your Traffic Shaper
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Rob Thomas wrote:
Our choke points were always our peering or transit links. This
was the case for our (large) enterprise customers as well.
Some people refer to it as the hourglass effect, but it has more than one
bump. Generally only the smallest bottleneck controls
Hi, Sean.
] lower bandwidthhigher bandwidth
Great ASCII chart. :)
] Of course, there are some exceptions like a customer with an OC192 uplink
] or an ISP running a web hosting center on a ISDN link.
Another bit to consider is address space. Code Red discovered
a lot of folks with
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Daniel Karrenberg
Sent: November 25, 2003 3:42 AM
To: William Allen Simpson
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anit-Virus help for all of us??
On 24.11 18:20, William Allen Simpson wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Vivien M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Daniel Karrenberg' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: Anit-Virus help for all of us??
Have either of you actually followed this advice?
Win98SE is totally
Vivien M. wrote:
if haveto(M$)
use(W98SE);
Have either of you actually followed this advice?
Yes.
(30%ish free). That machine got totally unstable needing a reboot after
about 3 days. On the same hardware (with additional RAM), Win2K could easily
run 3-4 weeks and run any
The minimalist approach has support advantages as well. Because of the
small image size a reimage can be accomplished quickly.
For better or worse many network tools/utilities only run under win[*]
requiring a windows box for many of these Win98SE fits nicely. My app
load is small i.e.
!EID / RAMADAN / ID-AL-FITR MUBARAK / Ramazan Bayraminiz Mubarek
Olsun
I wish happy and peaceful holidays to the NANOG'ers either they participate
Islam as their religious or other religiouses. In fact this is a muslim
holiday (for those who
don't know.)
Hope the world will
The northern leg of TAT14 seems to have just taken an outage about an
hour ago. As the southern leg was already down due to other faults,
this will probably be an exciting time for many providers.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Bruns
Sent: November 25, 2003 10:21 AM
To: Vivien M.; 'Daniel Karrenberg'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anit-Virus help for all of us??
I know full well about the resource limits.
On 24 Nov, 2003, at 21:20, Gerardo Gregory wrote:
[NAT and PAT] is not a security feature, neither does it provide any
real security, just ... translations.
You can't curse it if you don't know its name -- Len Bosack on this
issue, Reykjavik, March 2003.
Just cause your broadband router
Having sat up until the wee hours of the AM last night cleaning up virus
traffic on one of my private nets (an inhouse private net at that) i was
giving this some thought. It seems that as with all things, knowledge is
power. While all of the machines on the floor where the net op's team
lives
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Dobrynski
Sent: November 25, 2003 12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anit-Virus help for all of us??
like everyone else, I don't have the answer. Just another way
of looking at
Note: delurk.
Some of the commercial traffic shaping devices reviewed here are tens of
thousands of dollars. For a smaller ISP (i.e. less than a DS3 of
aggregate upstream bandwidth), that kind of expense doesn't make sense--
but the need to control bandwidth consumption is still an issue.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 11:38:01AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Note: delurk.
Some of the commercial traffic shaping devices reviewed here are tens of
thousands of dollars. For a smaller ISP (i.e. less than a DS3 of
aggregate upstream bandwidth), that kind of expense doesn't make
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 12:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone on the NANOG list aware of a disk-less Linux solution? One might
imagine a Knoppix-like bootable CD image (perhaps CD-RW, so config files
could be updated) that would turn an inexpensive Linux box into an
effective traffic
I would hate to blame the users here. In most organizations it is the
role of the IT Dept to manage the workstations and not end users.
Severely restricting users privileges is often a good thing, at least
from the perspective of being able to control what gets installed on the
machines in
Anyone have additional info regarding this outage? Links? Besides tat-14.com
- it seems to be down or just flooded with requests.
-Jack
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The northern leg of TAT14 seems to have just taken an outage about an
hour ago. As the southern leg was already down due
This is a basic map of the fiber path for those
that haven't found one yet.
http://www.kddiscs.co.jp/e/business/02_15.html
- jared
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:32:16AM -0800, Jack McCarthy wrote:
Anyone have additional info regarding this outage? Links? Besides
I saw that link when I googled for TAT-14. I was looking more for a see, I
told you so link that I can forward to management that provides proof that
this is why our UK office is down...if you know what I mean.
Here's an interesting explanation of undersea cabling:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:21:36 EST, Wojtek Zlobicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I would hate to blame the users here. In most organizations it is the
role of the IT Dept to manage the workstations and not end users.
Remember that Joe Sixpack's IT Dept may not be available past 9:30PM
because it's a
For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do
you charge for and how do you do the billing? E.g. per port + traffic,
per site + traffic, etc. I am not interested in buying MPLS services
just how the billing happens. Thanks!
Dan
I'd appreciate knowing this as well - thanks in advance
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Dan Lockwood
To: Nanog List (E-mail)
Sent: 11/25/2003 2:04 PM
Subject: MPLS billing model
For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do
you charge for and how do you do the
In my company, there are several technical guys make changes to the existing
network and it's very difficult to keep track of what we did when, etc.
I'm looking for a simple tool, in which each and every one has to manually
record whatever (s)he has done or any incident (s)he observed so that
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack McCarthy
writes:
I saw that link when I googled for TAT-14. I was looking more for a see, I
told you so link that I can forward to management that provides proof that
this is why our UK office is down...if you know what I mean.
Here's an interesting
clarifying the last post, seeing 100ms under the pond to our points of presence in
bourne end and beeston (uk).
thanks.
I saw that link when I googled for TAT-14. I was looking more for a see, I
told you so link that I can forward to management that provides proof that
this is why our UK
still seeing decent ping times. anyone detect an actual outage or issue?
thanks.
I saw that link when I googled for TAT-14. I was looking more for a see, I
told you so link that I can forward to management that provides proof that
this is why our UK office is down...if you know what I
Priyantha writes on 11/25/2003 2:15 PM:
In my company, there are several technical guys make changes to the existing
network and it's very difficult to keep track of what we did when, etc.
I'm looking for a simple tool, in which each and every one has to manually
record whatever (s)he has done
Priyantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my company, there are several technical guys make changes to the
existing network and it's very difficult to keep track of what we did
when, etc.
i feel your pain - except when it was happening, they weren't as
technical as they thought they were...
St. Clair, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd appreciate knowing this as well - thanks in advance
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Dan Lockwood
To: Nanog List (E-mail)
Sent: 11/25/2003 2:04 PM
Subject: MPLS billing model
For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of
In a message written on Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 07:24:27PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
still seeing decent ping times. anyone detect an actual outage or issue?
Best info we have is that there are two outages. One has existed
for the last 3 weeks or so between Tuckerton (New Jersey) and Bude
we are still in the testing phases, but i believe that we are planning to
use a port+traffic billing scheme, if/when we go live and start trying to
sell it
do you mean:
$port + $traffic_through_port
or:
$port + $traffic_over_vpn_tunnel
I ask this, because, it's very
We charge a flat fee per location, all traffic between locations is
free within a metro area. Anything going out to the Internet, or
outside a particular metro area is billable per their Internet transit
pricing.
Dan Lockwood wrote:
For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of
Alex Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we are still in the testing phases, but i believe that we are
planning to use a port+traffic billing scheme, if/when we go live
and start trying to sell it
do you mean:
$port + $traffic_through_port
or:
$port +
If you are in a Cisco shop you might consider Secure ACS. We use ACS to
log all of our changes and have very good success with it.
Unfortunately it is not free.
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
joshua sahala
Sent: Tuesday, November
Or Ciscoworks. A config change sends a syslog event to CW which in
turn knows to go grab the latest copy of the config. I believe
there are some reporting capabilities too, simple diff routines and
archives
of past configs.
I think CW is more of the CVS-like approach whereas ACS is sort of a
Here's the official word we received:
The outage on TAT-14 Segment I is on-going. This segment is on the European
side between the Netherlands and France, effecting traffic to UK, Ireland,
France, and other areas in Europe. This is the 2nd failure on this ring cable
which has caused the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or Ciscoworks. A config change sends a syslog event to CW which in
turn knows to go grab the latest copy of the config. I believe
there are some reporting capabilities too, simple diff routines and
archives of past configs.
or if you cannot afford cisco works (or
CiscoWorks also polls the devices for configuration changes and generates
a diff if you so desire. If you have set up AAA you will have an audit
log of when changes were applied and who applied them.
Scott C. McGrath
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 03:29:26PM -0500, joshua sahala wrote:
Alex Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we are still in the testing phases, but i believe that we are
planning to use a port+traffic billing scheme, if/when we go live
and start trying to sell it
do you mean:
anyone having trouble with above.net at the moment ?
cheers
-Bert
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 11:04:55AM -0800, Dan Lockwood wrote:
For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do
you charge for and how do you do the billing? E.g. per port + traffic,
per site + traffic, etc. I am not interested in buying MPLS services
just how the
anyone having trouble with above.net at the moment ?
cheers
-Bert
It is unreachable from various european networks for the
last 5-6 hours .
Best regards ,
--
=
Dimitris Zilaskos
Department of
In a message written on Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 05:08:29PM -0500, hostmaster wrote:
anyone having trouble with above.net at the moment ?
AboveNet is having issues due to the second cable cut on TAT-14.
In addition I have just received some information that appears to
be some helpful ISP's leaking
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, hostmaster wrote:
anyone having trouble with above.net at the moment ?
I'm sure somebody is. I have a problem with the way they filter portions
of the internet (which I'm just assuming has not been resolved internally
yet). Perhaps you're asking about their outage
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 05:08:29PM -0500, hostmaster wrote:
anyone having trouble with above.net at the moment ?
Yes. The problem seems related to the TAT14 failure. Since, around 16h30
(GMT +0100) our bgp sessions with AS 6461 reset and now they received
only 82305 prefix.
Regards,
--
On 25 Nov 2003, at 16:28, joshua sahala wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or Ciscoworks. A config change sends a syslog event to CW which in
turn knows to go grab the latest copy of the config. I believe
there are some reporting capabilities too, simple diff routines and
archives of past configs.
Don't forget that TACACS can log all commands entered into a router. When
used in combination with rancid and cvs/cvs-web, it's very useful.
I'm looking for a simple tool, in which each and every one has to
manually record whatever (s)he has done or any incident (s)he observed
so that the
Does anyone know what floor of the Westin building Opentransit's POP is on?
Is there not sizeable UK-FR capacity through the Chunnel?
That seems like such an easy win, I'd assume everyone
else thought of it years ago..
--
A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Scott McGrath wrote:
CiscoWorks also polls the devices for configuration changes and generates
a diff if you so desire. If you have set up AAA you will have an audit
log of when changes were applied and who applied them.
Scott C. McGrath
If you are really just looking for changes and change comparison's check out
Kiwi Cat tools..
www.kiwisyslog.com
This software can connect via SSH, Telnet etc, and even do non-Cisco, Linux etc..
Works good as a backup for configs...
Later,
Jim
CiscoWorks also polls the devices for
Hello,
Looking for someone @ Comcast (AS22909?) that can help troubleshoot a problem:
For a few days, Comcast residential cablemodem customers in the Seattle, WA area
are reporting that they cannot reach our application (TCP port 7000/7050/7070).
IP's that the customers are coming from:
I'm fairly certain that the tacacs standard implementations
available on the cisco routers log out changes to the config
made by users... That and a little log parsing magic and you
have this data also.
While we're being Cisco-centric, 12.3(4)T has a new feature by which the
router can
I created _Cisco repository_ about 1 year ago, using Expect, cvs and CVSWEB,
for free, and since this, we did a few installation and are really happy
with it (we save all Cisco configs, including routers, 6509 switches, PIX-es
and this crazy VPN devices...). This is a simple tool, with the web
This is not dngerous - I do not expect any idiot, opening SNMP from outside
(SNMP is excellent protocol, which can crash ANY device in the world; I
crashed 6509 switch and PIX firewall in a few days, when debugged new
'snmpstat' system). And moreover, Cisco allows o lock IP and file name for
It is excellent, but _too late. Such features are useless, if you do not
have them on all devices, and no one can update all network gear to this new
version at once. So, it will be useful in 2 - 3 years -:).
- Original Message -
From: Terry Baranski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Christopher
On Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 08:32:50PM -0500, David Lesher wrote:
Is there not sizeable UK-FR capacity through the Chunnel?
Yes, I believe there's a sizable amount of fiber going through the
service tunnel of the Chunnel (hence the much reduced cost of fiber from
UK to Europe these days).
Simon
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