routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Geo.
We had an attack here last night and the attack traffic was coming from an IP address of x.x.255.x which isn't a valid IP address yet the traffic was being routed over the internet (as far as I can tell anyway). When I attempted to track down the source I found our cisco routers wouldn't accept

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Bill Woodcock
x.x.255.x isn't a valid IP address Clue me in? Clue: it's a valid address. -Bill

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 07:47:46AM -0500, Geo. wrote: We had an attack here last night and the attack traffic was coming from an IP address of x.x.255.x which isn't a valid IP address yet the traffic was being routed over the internet (as far as I can tell anyway). When I attempted to track

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Geo.
traceroute to 248.245.255.191, that's what made me think it was invalid. I did get the answer, I was being stupid and trying to use IP route instead of an acl. Thanks to everyone who replied, even the no guy. Geo. (I'm not the cisco guy, I was just the only one working last night)

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Geo. wrote: We had an attack here last night and the attack traffic was coming from an IP address of x.x.255.x which isn't a valid IP address yet the traffic was being routed over the internet (as far as I can tell anyway). When I attempted to track down the source I found our cisco routers

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Invalid? Really? I used to manage a small collection of cisco routers and I don't recall any of them complaining about such an address. Could be related to perhaps not having ip subnet-zero? (I have no idea, but the old thingie about

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Invalid? Really? I used to manage a small collection of cisco routers and I don't recall any of them complaining about such an address. Could be related to perhaps not having ip subnet-zero? (I have no idea, but

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Geo. wrote: traceroute to 248.245.255.191, that's what made me think it was invalid. It has nothing to do with the x.y.255.z -- the 240.0.0.0/4 is IANA reserved space. If you had given the whole IP in the first place you could have saved yourself some abuse. :-) You are

PAIX Palo-Alto

2004-02-21 Thread Andre Chapuis
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RE: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Geo.
If you had given the whole IP in the first place you could have saved yourself some abuse. :-) Now what fun would that have been? Ya gotta let these guys spit out abuse once in a while, heck it's not often they know the right answer g... Anyway, I'm currently investigating to see if it's

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
248.x.x.x is in 'Class E' space which is invalid on the Internet... x.x.255.x are perfectly valid addresses, indeed we have 193.0.255.0/24.. subnet-zero isnt relevant either, this would be for eg a class B using a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask, since we dont bother with classful addressing and

M$ CD patches

2004-02-21 Thread David Lesher
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3314501 In a bid to target a security hurdle rampant with dial-up Internet users, Microsoft has rolled out a security update CD giveaway for users of Windows XP, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 98 Second Edition (SE). The

RE: M$ CD patches

2004-02-21 Thread Michel Py
I wonder how many will install worms and viruses from a CD that they got not from Microsoft but from phishing schemes that will inevitably pop up around it. Michel. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Lesher Sent: Saturday,

RE: M$ CD patches

2004-02-21 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Michel Py wrote: I wonder how many will install worms and viruses from a CD that they got not from Microsoft but from phishing schemes that will inevitably pop up around it. As far as I know, Microsoft is currently mailing the CDs to only consumers that request the

Re: M$ CD patches

2004-02-21 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: In the future you may be able to obtain patches through other distribution channels, e.g. your ISP or consumer electronics chain or original equipment manufacturer. Regardless of the distribution method, geniune Microsoft patches

Re: M$ CD patches

2004-02-21 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, David Lesher wrote: In the future you may be able to obtain patches through other distribution channels, e.g. your ISP or consumer electronics chain or original equipment manufacturer. Regardless of the distribution method, geniune Microsoft patches are always

MS can't live with it can't live... with it

2004-02-21 Thread J. Oquendo
In the future you may be able to obtain patches through other distribution channels, e.g. your ISP or consumer electronics chain or original equipment manufacturer. Perhaps MS should pay a fee to companies such as ISP's (would never happen) to distribute their fixes. Judging from my

RE: M$ CD patches

2004-02-21 Thread Michel Py
Sean Donelan wrote: Regardless of the distribution method, geniune Microsoft patches are always cryptographically signed by Microsoft. Whether consumers can figure out how to check the signature is a different question. Lots can't. I recently put a fake identity seal on my personal web site

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread bill
x.x.255.x isn't a valid IP address Clue me in? Clue: it's a valid address. -Bill Meta Clue... it -can be- a valid address. --bill

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Brian Knoblauch
Anyway, I'm currently investigating to see if it's possible the traffic was coming from another local machine. The machine's admin mentioned a few things that sounded to me like there were 2 way connections from this IP involved instead of just spoofed UDP. Anybody hook up a new

Re: eBGP, iBGP, injecting networks

2004-02-21 Thread Stephen Perciballi
You could always run HSRP or something similar between the two routers. That would give you physical redundancy on your end. Setup the same single ASN on each router. In a simple form, you could create the same access-list on each of your routers containing all the blocks you want to

Re: routing invalid IP addresses

2004-02-21 Thread Geo.
Anybody hook up a new Macintosh lately? OS X seems to spew traffic in that range. It appears to be some optional component as they don't all do it, about half of ours do it. I haven't cared enough to track down what exactly is doing it. Not on this segment, only two linux boxes