RE: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Andrew Dorsett
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Vivien M. wrote: > You must be talking about a different Netreg system that the one everyone > else has used. The one we're talking about involves you logging in when you > connect with an unknown MAC - once you've used the system to match your MAC > to your student number/lo

RE: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Vivien M.
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Andrew Dorsett > Sent: March 15, 2004 11:17 PM > To: John Kristoff > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo? > > > > I'm not referring to the time required to imple

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Andrew Dorsett
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, John Kristoff wrote: > There are certain environments where it would be nice for people to have > spent some time. Working at a university would be one good experience for > many people, particularly in this field, to have had. I fully agree...This is the one environment wh

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And then there's the newer high-density rackmount units like > . This product puts > up to 24 server blades in a 3U chassis which basically means you can put > 8 times as many servers in a rack. sadly, the blade ven

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
> > I'll take "the right customer base" for $50 please Alex. > > which is NOT the current dsl/cable-modem user, obviously? Correct. > > Rick Adams and Mike O'Dell had an idea in 1987. How is this any different? > > > > mumble, mumble giant telephone company mumble mumble... In all > seriousness

Re: Replacement for a Extreme Black Diamond 6808

2004-03-15 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Drew Weaver wrote: > Can anyone suggest a good replacement for an Extreme Black Diamond 6808 > switch, we use it for aggregation, however their support is abhorrant > and every time we have an issue they require us to unconfigure the > switch, reset it to defaults and manually

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Vixie
> > Rick Adams and Mike O'Dell had an idea in 1987. > > How is this any different? actually rick had the idea by himself in 1987. mike came a bit later. > Their idea, if I got it right, was 'ip everywhere'. in that most other companies still thought ISO/OSI was going to be the commercial proto

Re: AS3561 - lights are on but nobody's home?

2004-03-15 Thread Mike Lewinski
Burton, Chris wrote: I spoke with their NOC about 3 days ago @800.663.9932. Thanks to everyone for the fast responses... we did finally find a functional number (the above had a recording to call 800-486- which got the goods). Mike

Replacement for a Extreme Black Diamond 6808

2004-03-15 Thread Drew Weaver
    Can anyone suggest a good replacement for an Extreme Black Diamond 6808 switch, we use it for aggregation, however their support is abhorrant and every time we have an issue they require us to unconfigure the switch, reset it to defaults and manually reconfigure it, no matter wh

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote: > > Certianly the point central to your arguement is that with the right > > abuse-desk to customer ratio AND the right customer base, things could be > > kept clean for smtp/web/ftp/blah 'hosting'. > > I'll take "the right cust

RE: AS3561 - lights are on but nobody's home?

2004-03-15 Thread Burton, Chris
I spoke with their NOC about 3 days ago @800.663.9932. Chris Burton Network Engineer Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is

Re: Electrical Fire at 2nd + Federal Street

2004-03-15 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
ok, power is back on. There's a big stinky charred mess in the street, but nothing too horrible. This is in San Francisco for those of you that missed that heh. On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: > Apparently there's some PG&E problem, and a possible electrical fire. It > appears tha

Re: AS3561 - lights are on but nobody's home?

2004-03-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Mike Lewinski [3/16/2004 8:17 AM] : I know that C&W was supposed to close their US ops, and then it went to re-org and became C&W America or something of the sort, but does anyone here have a clue as to their new support info? Because just a week or so ago 800-486-9932 got me to a real human f

Re: 3 strikes - Interior Department ordered offline again

2004-03-15 Thread Fred Heutte
This is quite something. From Judge Lamberth's order, additional insight into the behavior of a contractor we know well: It is unfortunate, therefore, that Interior proposes that “[e]ach bureau or office for which reconnection is intended will take steps to verify its representation that t

AS3561 - lights are on but nobody's home?

2004-03-15 Thread Mike Lewinski
I know that C&W was supposed to close their US ops, and then it went to re-org and became C&W America or something of the sort, but does anyone here have a clue as to their new support info? Because just a week or so ago 800-486-9932 got me to a real human for support, and now it just rings and

Re: .edueyeball LART RE: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:27:42 -1000, Scott Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Also, most .edueyeball networks have (and have always had) a VERY low > budget for networking stuff. As a result, generally, there is little to > no plant map documentation, so it isn't the case of looking up the > physi

Electrical Fire at 2nd + Federal Street

2004-03-15 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
Apparently there's some PG&E problem, and a possible electrical fire. It appears that 501 2nd street is on Generator, and several other businesses on federal and 2nd streets are out of power. Bryant street appears to have spotty power in the area. Anyone else know anything about this? --- Tom Sp

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Alexei Roudnev
Is it bad, If they (your sysadmins) understand your backbone infrastructure and understand such things, as MTU MTU discovery, knows about ACL filters (without extra details) and existing limitations? They are not required to know about VPN mode or T3 card configuration, but they must understand ba

3 strikes - Interior Department ordered offline again

2004-03-15 Thread Sean Donelan
The US Department of Interior was ordered to disconnect most, but not all, Internet connections. They don't have to disconnect their modems, private networks, or other agency networks. This is the third time the court has ordered the Interior Department to disconnect some or all of their system

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Alexei Roudnev
Ok - is name resoluution issue network issue or not? if it is, how can you answer anything without knowing, for example, of existing Windows DNS client with internal cache, and difference between 'ping' and 'nslookup' name resolution on Solaris? Is ARP problem - network one or not? if it is, how

Re: A TCP Replacement protocol 6000 times faster than DSL?

2004-03-15 Thread James Edwards
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/grp/scs/net/talk03/tcp-slac-nov03.pdf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

A TCP Replacement protocol 6000 times faster than DSL?

2004-03-15 Thread Scott Call
Found on slashdot: http://www.scienceblog.com/community/article2473.html Any idea what they're trying to say/sell? The article is so vague as to be mostly useless, but it seems to indicate the usual stuff like sliding windows. -S -- Scott Call Router Geek, ATGi, home of $6.95 Prime Rib

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
> I find it ironic that one of the presentations at the last nanog was about > a system kind of like that: > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0402/gauthier.html > and that we had some luser on the nanog30 wireless network infected by SQL > slammer. Well it wouldnt be nanog without a few infections, passw

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread jlewis
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe NANOG needs to implement a system where you have to log > in to a web page with your NANOG meeting passcode in order to > get a usable IP address. Then, when an infected computer shows > up we will know exactly whose it was. Might even be inter

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Scott Weeks
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Randy Bush wrote: : > No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and : > then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/ sysadmins. To prove : > it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of : > detail. : : to pass the buck, one

Re: Cisco's Website down?

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Bruns
On Monday, March 15, 2004 6:01 PM [EST], Stephen J. Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? >> >> Yep, from AOL, level3, and RoadRunner. All coming back as 403. > > You expected the webserver to react differently depending on how your > packets

Re: Cisco's Website down?

2004-03-15 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
> > Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? > > Yep, from AOL, level3, and RoadRunner. All coming back as 403. You expected the webserver to react differently depending on how your packets got there? Steve

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Kelly Setzer
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 12:21:54PM -1000, Randy Bush wrote: > > > No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and > > then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/ sysadmins. To prove > > it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of > > detail. > >

PRISP (ISP Provisiong) Project (was - Ipal project)

2004-03-15 Thread william(at)elan.net
Due to previous ipal name collision discovered last week the project has been renamed PRISP, big thanks to GertJan Hagenaars for this name. Again if people would like to participate, this project will develop opensource software (or framework and database schema for such software) to help ISPs

Re: Curiosity

2004-03-15 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: > And that is the net effect, because every attempt to take an item > off-list results in something like the following. > > I can not really figure out what the problem is. You're on SPEWS eh?

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Randy Bush
> No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and > then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/ sysadmins. To prove > it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of > detail. to pass the buck, one needs to know nothing. what makes a great noc engin

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 03:53 PM 15/03/2004, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: > Jay Hennigan wrote: > > Is it just me that they don't like? > > I've seen one or two other reports. > > Seems like a good opportunity for a round of Wild Speculation. "Cisco is under spam attack

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Christian Malo
It was down, came back up. It's certainly not a networking problem so saying it's down from a couple hosts doesn't matter. that's it that's all, no need to tell everybody it was down for you. -chris On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Forrest Houston wrote: > > Back for me now too. I was seeing the error

Re: www.sunfreeware.com down too?

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Bruns
On Mon, March 15, 2004 3:51 pm, Jon R. Kibler said: > Have noticed several sites down today. > > Can't seem to get to www.sunfreeware.com as well as Cisco. > Works fine here. Possibly some flapping going on somewhere? I just logged into several routers and checked, I see nothing entirely out o

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 03:38:39PM -0500, Richard Danielli wrote: > > Anyone going to open a TAC case ? Good god, is there really so little interesting shit on the Internet that we are reduced to 20 post long threads me too-ing a 30 minute outage of a website which is now fixed? The god damn p

Re: Cisco's Website down?

2004-03-15 Thread Rachael Treu
Nor here. Been connected via GBLX all day to one of their pages. ymmv, --ra On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 03:42:12PM -0500, William Warren said something to the effect of: > > no issues here > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? > > > > > > > >

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Robert A. Hayden
Still 404s on me now when I try to log into CCO or follow any of my bookmarks to case query, pricelist, or TAC Case generation. Todays excuse of the day is: SUNSPOTS! On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Todd Mitchell - lists wrote: > > | Behalf Of Jay Hennigan > | Sent: March 15, 2004 3:19 PM > | > |

Curiosity

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
People keep asking me "why don't you take that off list?" I have a suggestion: say instead "STFU"--it is easier to type. And that is the net effect, because every attempt to take an item off-list results in something like the following. I can not really figure out what the problem is.

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Scott Weeks
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote: : I expect, that good (tier-3, to say) network engineer MUST know Windows and : Unix (== Linux, FreeBSD etc) on tear-2 (or better) level. Else, he will not : be able to troubleshout his _network problem_ (because they are more likely : complex Network

.edueyeball LART RE: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Scott Weeks
: > This is a topic I get very soap-boxish about. I have too : > many problems with providers who don't understand the college : > student market. I can think of one university who requires : > students to login through a web portal before giving them a : > routable address. This is such a was

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Bruns
On Mon, March 15, 2004 3:41 pm, Todd Mitchell - lists said: > > | Behalf Of Jay Hennigan > | Sent: March 15, 2004 3:19 PM > | > | Is it just me that they don't like? > > All fixed now, but load times are hella slow: > Probably a million other people just discovered it was back up as well. I

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: > Jay Hennigan wrote: > > Is it just me that they don't like? > > I've seen one or two other reports. > > Seems like a good opportunity for a round of Wild Speculation. "Cisco is under spam attack" "Cisco has closed their website because Vendor

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread William Warren
no issues here..loads quickly. Todd Mitchell - lists wrote: | Behalf Of Jay Hennigan | Sent: March 15, 2004 3:19 PM | | Is it just me that they don't like? All fixed now, but load times are hella slow: phoenix:~# curl -I cisco.com HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:40:53 GMT Server: Apac

www.sunfreeware.com down too?

2004-03-15 Thread Jon R. Kibler
Have noticed several sites down today. Can't seem to get to www.sunfreeware.com as well as Cisco. -- Jon R. Kibler Chief Technical Officer A.S.E.T., Inc. Charleston, SC USA (843) 849-8214 == Filtered by: TRUSTEM.COM's Email Filtering Service ht

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Forrest Houston
Back for me now too. I was seeing the error earlier though. On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Amar Andersson wrote: > > > Works fine for me. > > -- amar > >

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Priyantha
I can access it from Canada, but it seems that the first page is missing some info which are typically there. Priyantha Wightman Internet >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Todd Mitchell - lists >Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:23 PM >T

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Richard Danielli
Anyone going to open a TAC case ? -- Richard Danielli Founder/President eSubnet Enterprises Inc. TORONTO, ON Canada (416) 203-5253 c: (416) 525-6148 http://www.eSubnet.com ~~~ This E-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) abo

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Jeff Shultz
** Reply to message from "Todd Mitchell - lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:23:14 -0500 > | Behalf Of Jay Hennigan > | Sent: March 15, 2004 3:19 PM > | > | Is it just me that they don't like? > > Apparently they don't like me either. On top of that, they're running > Apache 1.0

Re: Cisco's Website down?

2004-03-15 Thread William Warren
no issues here [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? 403 Forbidden Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Alexei Roudnev
I expect, that good (tier-3, to say) network engineer MUST know Windows and Unix (== Linux, FreeBSD etc) on tear-2 (or better) level. Else, he will not be able to troubleshout his _network problem_ (because they are more likely complex Network + System + Application + Cable problem). So, it is no

Re: Cisco's Website down?

2004-03-15 Thread Adi Linden
> Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? Maybe I missed to renew a service contract? They don't like me either. Adi

Re: Cisco's Website down?

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Bruns
On Mon, March 15, 2004 3:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? > Yep, from AOL, level3, and RoadRunner. All coming back as 403. -- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources

Cisco 6513 Bug (was Re: hey had eric sent you

2004-03-15 Thread joej
Scott, Yep, we had to send in the line cards to get them upgraded, didn't have any information on upgrading the s/w on the Line cards and TAC wanted me to RMA them back. So. Boy this one was a real pain because it only seemed protocol specific at the time. Here's the referenced Bug for

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Claydon, Tom
Al Qaeda packets? -Original Message- From: Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden? Jay Hennigan wrote: > Is it just me that they don't like? I've seen one or

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Amar Andersson
Works fine for me. -- amar

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Williams, Jeff
It was down the first time I tried... seems to be back now. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd Mitchell - lists Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden? | B

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Todd Mitchell - lists
| Behalf Of Jay Hennigan | Sent: March 15, 2004 3:19 PM | | Is it just me that they don't like? All fixed now, but load times are hella slow: phoenix:~# curl -I cisco.com HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:40:53 GMT Server: Apache/1.0 (Unix) Set-Cookie: CP_GUTC=209.123.169.252.2408010793

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Jay Hennigan wrote: Is it just me that they don't like? I've seen one or two other reports. Seems like a good opportunity for a round of Wild Speculation. -- Requiescas in pace o email

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Jay Hennigan wrote: > Is it just me that they don't like? Nope, they got me too.

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 15.03.2004 21:18 Jay Hennigan wrote: Is it just me that they don't like? me too Arnold

Re: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Matthew Sweet
Nah, they hate me too. :-) On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > Is it just me that they don't like? > > -- > Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 WB6RDV > NetLojix Communications, Inc. - htt

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Claydon, Tom
Nope. It's horked. = TC -Original Message- From: Jay Hennigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden? Is it just me that they don't like? -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administ

RE: Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Todd Mitchell - lists
| Behalf Of Jay Hennigan | Sent: March 15, 2004 3:19 PM | | Is it just me that they don't like? Apparently they don't like me either. On top of that, they're running Apache 1.0--not so good. Todd --

Cisco's Website down?

2004-03-15 Thread joej
Anyone else seeing an error getting to www.cisco.com? 403 Forbidden Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.0 Server at www.cisco.com Port 80 Ch

Cisco website www.cisco.com 403 forbidden?

2004-03-15 Thread Jay Hennigan
Is it just me that they don't like? -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 WB6RDV NetLojix Communications, Inc. - http://www.netlojix.com/

Re: iMPLS benefit

2004-03-15 Thread Yakov Rekhter
Mark, [clipped...] > >>Enabling MPLS over any type of IP tunnel changes the security characteristi cs > >>of your 2547 deployment, in particular with respect to packet spoofing > >>attacks. The L2TPv3 encapsulation used with the extension defined above > >>provides anti-spoofing protection for

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Stefan Larsson
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, David Barak wrote: > Susan, > > could you please clarify the NANOG AUP for the benefit > of some of our young/new posters? > > Thank you, > > -David Barak > -Fully RFC 1925 Compliant- Either that or they can check out the website, --

Re: iMPLS benefit

2004-03-15 Thread W. Mark Townsley
Yakov Rekhter wrote: No, I was *not* referring to draft-raggarwa-ppvpn-tunnel-encap-sig-03.txt. Redback's implementation that does not require manual provisioning of point-to-point GRE tunnels between MPLS networks and to each and every IP-only reachable PE is *purely* an implementation matter

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread David Barak
Susan, could you please clarify the NANOG AUP for the benefit of some of our young/new posters? Thank you, -David Barak -Fully RFC 1925 Compliant- --- John Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: = David Barak -fully RFC 1925 compliant- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo!

Re: Fw: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 00:36:00 EST, Joshua Brady said: > I was talking more along the lines of disclosing personal information without > permission, slander is another one as well... I'm coming up empty-handed on statutes for the disclosure issue. Asking around in the office found lots of rules tha

Re: Load Balancing Multiple DS3s (outgoing) on a 7500

2004-03-15 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Abley wrote: | | | On 12 Mar 2004, at 23:24, joe mcguckin wrote: | |> Patrick, |> |> I suspect that each FE goes to a different AS... | | | In that case, sample/count outbound traffic volumes by | (prefix/AS/AS_PATH/something), sort the resulting l

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
ren wrote: Stop it children. The thousands of people on this mailing list do not need to watch this road kill. -ren Some where it was ineffectively written that if you stop responding to them, and particularly, if you stop endorsing the crap by quoting it all verbatim over your signature, they

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread james
: Stop it children. The thousands of people on this mailing list do not need : to watch this road kill. -ren But they sure make good kill file fodder ! James Edwards Routing and Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the Santa Fe Office: Internet at Cyber Mesa Store hours: 9-6 Monday through Friday 5

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread ren
Stop it children. The thousands of people on this mailing list do not need to watch this road kill. -ren At 06:11 PM 3/15/2004 +, John Harold wrote: Yes, Gregory Taylor aka "OseK" is a perfect gentlemen now. Here are logs from Feb 4th 2004 showing him being a perfect gentlemen... (08:35:

Re: Security: Cisco time?

2004-03-15 Thread Randy Bush
hice html shows lusers not operators, and i am not a browser. > Hello, >   > I think cisco woke up now, href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/36156.html";>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/36156.html >   > You NSPs are the worst enemy for the internet security, do you know why? >  

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Bruns
On Monday, March 15, 2004 1:11 PM [EST], John Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, Gregory Taylor aka "OseK" is a perfect gentlemen now. Here are logs > from Feb 4th 2004 showing him being a perfect gentlemen... > You know how easy it is to fake IRC logs? (16:12:01) <#nanog!jh> I l33t hax

Re: iMPLS benefit

2004-03-15 Thread Yakov Rekhter
Mark, > Please see inline. in-line... > i heard there is a way to run MPLS for layer3 VPN(2547) > service without needing to run label switching in the > core(LDP/TDP/RSVP) but straight IP (aka iMPLS). > >> > >>ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-to

Re: iMPLS benefit

2004-03-15 Thread W. Mark Townsley
Please see inline. Yakov Rekhter wrote: Mark, i heard there is a way to run MPLS for layer3 VPN(2547) service without needing to run label switching in the core(LDP/TDP/RSVP) but straight IP (aka iMPLS). ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-townsley-l2tpv3-mpls-01.txt See also Mark's

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread John Harold
Yes, Gregory Taylor aka "OseK" is a perfect gentlemen now. Here are logs from Feb 4th 2004 showing him being a perfect gentlemen... (08:35:45) <#sigdie!OseK_> :[NEMESIS] Nodes are attacking 212.242.41.0/24 on port 666 for 60 seconds using spoofed TCP RESET Packets ... (08:36:04) <#sigdie!OseK_>

Re: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > > I have read the filing it's another step down the road. True all comms > are subject to intercept _already_ what is desired is a way to _easily_ > perform the intercept and the easily part is the kicker. Some things > should

Wiltel Contact

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Boles
Can someone from Wiltel contact me offlist please. Brian Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Scott McGrath
I have read the filing it's another step down the road. True all comms are subject to intercept _already_ what is desired is a way to _easily_ perform the intercept and the easily part is the kicker. Some things should be hard especially where civil rights are involved. See all the light and n

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Scott McGrath wrote: > What is desired here is a system by which all communications > originating/or terminating at $DESIGNATED_TARGET can be intercepted with > no intervention by and/or knowledge of the carrier hence ensuring the > security of the investigation. I don't thin

Re: hey had eric sent you

2004-03-15 Thread Scott McGrath
Bit hard by same bug. What version of code are you running on the 6513 8.1(2) fixes the bug on the 6x48 line cards. What happens is that packets of 64 bytes or less are silently dropped. Replacing linecards will not help unless there is another bug of which I am not aware. With a little digg

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Pete Templin
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Pete Templin wrote: I didn't suggest saying "I'm not gonna do it". I just suggested "You hired me to deploy dynamic routing on your statically-routed network. What prompted you to think that I could configure site-wide anti-virus services such that no one ever

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Scott McGrath
This is part of a law enforcement wishlist which has been around for a long time (See Magic Lantern, Clipper Chip et. al. for examples). What is desired here is a system by which all communications originating/or terminating at $DESIGNATED_TARGET can be intercepted with no intervention by and/or

Re: iMPLS benefit

2004-03-15 Thread Yakov Rekhter
Mark, > >>i heard there is a way to run MPLS for layer3 VPN(2547) > >>service without needing to run label switching in the > >>core(LDP/TDP/RSVP) but straight IP (aka iMPLS). > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-townsley-l2tpv3-mpls-01.txt > > See also

Re: Counter DoS

2004-03-15 Thread Rachael Treu
Leaving directed-bcast open would accomplish this on these devices, as well as many others. A bigger problem here is that these irresponsible network polyps would offer an icmp-independent amplifier. They essentially open smurf amplification to any other protocol. Whereas a network might clob

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Ben Crosby
John, There are the beginnings of some wireless devices that are capable of directing wireless clients to cease transmission with L2 link control messages. These are just beginning to emerge, and unfortunately I'm certain that with only a matter of time people will write drivers that ignore such

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread John Kristoff
On 15 Mar 2004 08:01:15 -0500 "Robert E. Seastrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe NANOG needs to implement a system where you have to log > > in to a web page with your NANOG meeting passcode in order to > > get a usable IP address. Then, when an infected computer shows [...] > Seconded. T

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Janet Sullivan
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: if the market for this is nanog and you're just looking for smtp/shell surely we can manage this between ourselves without charge (ask your nanog buddy for a shell as a favour).. I know I can and will do this Well, I do have motives beyond outbound smtp. I actually looked

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Dr. Jeffrey Race
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 04:57:03 -0500 (EST), Sean Donelan wrote: > NANOG has less than 500 attendees, >yet has about the same number as infected computers as any other >ad-hoc network population. If true this is a very significant fact

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Pete Templin wrote: Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Pete Templin wrote: There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulting - I don't do Windows, and I'm getting overrun by Linux corrosion slowly. I route, I switch, I help with securing networks. And I do wear a lot of hats at my day j

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Pete Templin
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Pete Templin wrote: There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulting - I don't do Windows, and I'm getting overrun by Linux corrosion slowly. I route, I switch, I help with securing networks. And I do wear a lot of hats at my day job, but I remind them

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Owen, That sounds like an invitation to have the "Jack Booted Thugs" barbeque your home a'la Branch Davidian compound style. :) Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Owen DeLong
This whole thing makes me think that we should be encouraging VOIP traffic to run over IPSEC so we can claim we don't know what it is. Owen pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. [3/15/2004 7:39 PM] : If you were willing to live in a place where an electrical overload caused a fire (as opposed to tripping a circuit-breaker or blowing a fuse), you have not correctly identified your worst problem, or the the University

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. [3/15/2004 7:39 PM] : If you were willing to live in a place where an electrical overload caused a fire (as opposed to tripping a circuit-breaker or blowing a fuse), you have not correctly identified your worst problem, or the the University's. That's always there, but at

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Pete Templin wrote: > Employee to PHB: "You hired me to provide core network engineering and lead the level 2 network ops staff. Tell me again why you want me to provide any server engineering, if you knew my strengths when you hired me?" There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulti

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Ken Diliberto wrote: Something else I just remembered: Connecting so much equipment in our dorms creates a fire hazard. The are only two or three outlets (what I've been told) in a room shared by two or three students. Add to the computer equipment a TV, stereo, DVD player, alarm clocks, cor

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